Posted on 09/21/2006 6:20:48 PM PDT by SandRat
WASHINGTON, Sept. 21, 2006 Detainee treatment and interrogation operations at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, are fully compliant with the Detainee Treatment Act and Common Article 3 of the Geneva Conventions -- at least as best as U.S. military leaders understand Common Article 3, the general with overall responsibility for operations there said yesterday.
Army Gen. Bantz J. Craddock, commander of U.S. Southern Command, said outrages on personal dignity -- outlawed by Common Article 3 -- is an overly ambiguous term that could lead to trouble for U.S. servicemembers trying to understand rules for interrogations.
In the military, we like tasks, conditions and standards, he said. We need to know what it is we have to do, the conditions under which we do it, and we want to know the standard, the level of expertise required. What is it that we must reach?
Craddock told a group of Pentagon reporters hed like to see the article defined more clearly because outrages on personal dignity can mean different things to different people.
I dont know what an outrage on personal dignity is. Its in the eye of the beholder, he said. Look, I pledged a fraternity. I felt I had some outrages on personal dignity, but others didnt feel that way.
A new Army field manual on interrogations, out earlier this month, provides specific techniques that are banned. Craddock said this type of specificity is helpful. We dont cross lines when we know where those lines are, he said of military experts conducting interrogations at Guantanamo Bay. And were trying to make sure the line is very clear and that we understand it.
He likened banning outrages on personal dignity to saying speeding is illegal but not setting a speed limit. To say, Dont speed, isnt good enough, Craddock said. Give me a speed limit and tell me that under certain conditions -- rainy, wet, snow -- the speed limits this. But just to say, Dont speed, I dont want to sign up for that.
Military interrogators need to have a clear understanding of the rules so they dont inadvertently break them and open themselves up to punishment or prosecution. The notion that, We dont know how to define it, but well know when its not right when we see it, is, I think, unacceptable, Craddock said. It puts our folks in harms way.
U.S. Southern Command is responsible for U.S. military operations in Central and South America and the Caribbean. Craddock is slated to hand over reigns of the command in October. He has been nominated to command U.S. European Command and also to head NATO military operations. Navy Vice Adm. James G. Stavridis has been nominated for his fourth star and to replace Craddock at Southern Command.
Good Question!
Well, for starters, cutting your head off.
9/11/01 just for argument's sake.............
It's whatever the New York Times claims it is. Duh.
And since the Geneva Convention was written in 1949, we must ask, "What constituted outrages on personal dignity back then?"
No Grey Poupon...
Strapping a person naked to a chair in the freezing cold and playing Red Hot Chili Peppers too loud just sounds like.....
A good party at North Dakota State University!
I always wonder if he did that on purpose or was simply out of nervous.
Well, I remember very clearly the pledge initiation week at my fraternity at the University of Colorado in 1954!!
One hell of a bunch of outrages against my personal dignity were perpertrated. Fortunately, I don't think
there was an ALCU back then or I may have been tempted to
call. But no permanent harm was done - and I actually look back on it as a character building experience.
As I recall, taken as an entire event, the outrages exceeded anything I have heard about happened in abu Grab.
It exceeded anything being discussed for the CIA to use
on guys that want to kill thousands of us.
The wussie leftists have destroyed the ability of this nation to protect itself.
There was. The ACLU was founded in 1920.
From their website:
The ACLU was founded by Roger Baldwin, Crystal Eastman, Albert DeSilver and others in 1920".
what they didn't add was "to defend communists".
Having Democrats insult my intelligence by assuming since they consider me a "minority", that I can't make it on my own.
How about the risk that I or my family may be killed by some deranged sand-maggot? I would think this would qualify.
Well, the guy was over there in Afghanistan to kill people who wanted to kill him first. Somehow I doubt that thunder thighs made him nervous. Besides, techniques of communicating duress when being photgraphed were made part of SERE training after the Vietnam War POW's used it extensively to try to communicate that they were being tortured.
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