Posted on 09/19/2006 7:55:56 PM PDT by goldstategop
The violent Muslim reaction to Pope Benedict's reference to Muhammad involves far more than the issue of freedom of speech. The ultimate issue is one of theological truth on the one hand, and the true nature of Islam on the other. Pope Benedict's "indirect" disparagement of Muhammad--who was will denigrated by St. Thomas Aquinas, the touchstone of Roman Catholicism--is by definition a disparagement of Islam.
Be this as it may, the Pope now calls for "dialogue." When Islam substitutes dialogue for the sword it will cease to be Islam.
Islamic leaders from Muhammad to Ahmadinejad have ever declared war on "infidels." When the latter speaks of a "world without America." he means a world without Christianity. The Church had better take this threat seriously. Indeed, Christians should go on the offensive and make demands on Islamic leaders. "Stop your obscene vilification of Christians and Jews. Abide by the United Nations Charter and its Universal Declaration of Human Rights, or we shall take steps to have you expelled from the world body."
Let us face the fact that dialogue, which goes back to Abraham's disputation with God over the fate of Sodom and Gemorah, goes to the root of Greco-Christian civilization. It is utterly foreign to Islam.
Dialogue is of the essence of genuine democracy. But whereas democracy is based on the primacy of consent or persuasion, Islamic regimes are based on the primacy of force or coercion.
The West, in particular Christian America (but also Israel), had better face up to the fact that Islam has declared war on us. The best defense is a good offense, which must begin with words that reveal the true nature of the enemy. But this war will not be won by words alone.
"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." -Manuel II Paleologus
As it stands here and now, it is my considered opinion that Islam needs to be eliminated from the face of the earth, with EXTREME PREJUDICE.
No quarter shall be offered, nor given.
SEMPER FI!
GO PIPES!
And why then are the vast bulk of the forces fighting and dying on OUR side in the War Muslims then?
I give in...
I think we should be more tolerant... I think we should understand Islam....I think we should embrace the teachings of Islam... I think we should just slit the throats of anyone Anti- American......
;-)
yeah- I think I can learn to be more tolerant of Islam and learn to adapt to some of their teachings... I am sensitive and tolerant like that....
;-)
"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." -Manuel II Paleologus
I like Pipes, but this bit...
"The Church had better take this threat seriously. Indeed, Christians should go on the offensive and make demands on Islamic leaders. "Stop your obscene vilification of Christians and Jews. Abide by the United Nations Charter and its Universal Declaration of Human Rights, or we shall take steps to have you expelled from the world body."
... is pure fantasy. Christians will sooner be expelled from the "World Body" than will the Muslims.
I mean, hello! HELLO!!! Anybody home???
And Islam's answer to this centuries old question is?
(more violins)
It is a "serious" offense to commit blasphemy towards Islam even if you are not muslim.
Islam is a supremacist political ideology. It does not tolerate dissent and ridicule. It must be "accepted" as the dominant faith (co-existence only comes from acknowledging our muslim superiors).
The days of Christians making demands on Islamic leaders are far over. Christians are generally too busy sucking the liberal hind tit, for example helping illegal aliens enter the USA with pregnant wives so they can stay in the USA after the child is born here, then standing in a circle, holding hands and singing "Cum by hyah."
Liberalism has destroyed Western Christianity, because of its "peace at any cost," attitude, Christians today would appease anyone who is a threat, lay down , roll over and lift their legs like dogs succumbing to an Alpha. Tyranny is a welcome visitor.
Such is modern Christianity. The warrior Christians are all but dead, and their swords lay rusting in the wells of a false compassion, which beggars the protection of their own religion, people and the very countries which have so long given them a costless freedom.
And God will punish them for NOT standing up to the Islamofascists
At least the present pope has courage, and as a German remembers when in the 1930s, the then pope failed to speak out against the German, Italian and Spanish fascists, who sent millions to their graves prematurely.
"Onward Christian Soldiers" has never had such potency as it again does in our times.And Islamofascists are laughing at how easy it is to manipulate todays modern , whiny liberal Christians. The pope knows this.
Agreed!
Good post. Very interesting FReeper comments. BTTT!
Interesting how much religion has been driven from our lives, only to be attacked now from a competing religion. Now, we have no spiritual defense to adhere to. Our politicans and media are pure humanists, with no inherent belief system to fall back upon. Islam is ready, willing and able to kill over 1 billion Christians and Jews. We do not. Does anyone get the impression this might have been planned.
Someone else was mentioning this on a tv show, and I wholeheartedly agree.
Also, tell your irregulars to follow the Geneva Conventions - that means no more beheadings, uniforms, etc.
I have a question to put forth:
What will happen when the Muzzies assassinate the Pope? Will we all just discuss it?
What you say is the sorry fact of our times. Humanism at any cost is simply what I call idiot compassion, compassion without the cool wisdom necessary to do good. The heart of Christ, symbol of genuine compassion, has little to do with such idiocy.
We have turned our cheek more than twice to Islamofascism. Those times are now over, and there are few of us in the world who have awakened to that fact. Fortunately, the present pope is such a one. Roman Catholics are fortunate to have him, but the liberal wing of his flock seeks to pull his glorius fangs , even before they can sink into the scrawny necks of those who seek world dominion in a Caliphate from whose darkness the world would not recover, and freedom now goes into that darkness.
Music: Arthur S. Sullivan, 1842-1900
1. Onward, Christian soldiers, marching as to war, with the cross of Jesus going on before. Christ, the royal Master, leads against the foe; forward into battle see his banners go!
Refrain:
Onward, Christian soldiers, marching as to war, with the cross of Jesus going on before.
2. At the sign of triumph Satan's host doth flee; on then, Christian soldiers, on to victory! Hell's foundations quiver at the shout of praise; brothers, lift your voices, loud your anthems raise. (Refrain)
3. Like a mighty army moves the church of God; brothers, we are treading where the saints have trod. We are not divided, all one body we, one in hope and doctrine, one in charity. (Refrain)
4. Crowns and thrones may perish, kingdoms rise and wane, but the church of Jesus constant will remain. Gates of hell can never gainst that church prevail; we have Christ's own promise, and that cannot fail. (Refrain)
5. Onward then, ye people, join our happy throng, blend with ours your voices in the triumph song. Glory, laud, and honor unto Christ the King, this through countless ages men and angels sing. (Refrain)
I prefer this woman's arguments - right in the face of the Islamofascists!
http://switch3.castup.net/cunet/gm.asp?ai=214&ar=1050wmv&ak=null
Wholeheartedly agree. Thanks Fred for the ping. :')
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