Posted on 09/18/2006 7:10:32 PM PDT by Dane
Nearly two of every three Colorado voters think illegal immigrants should be allowed to become U.S. citizens if they pay taxes, learn English and meet other requirements, according to a new Rocky Mountain News/CBS 4 poll.
Only 15 percent of those polled favor mass deportations.
"People want to be tough but fair," said pollster Lori Weigel. "It's like many issues. You tend to hear from extremes on both ends. Clearly, this data indicate that there's a silent majority that is supportive of a more middle-ground approach."
(Excerpt) Read more at rockymountainnews.com ...
DANE, DANE, DANE, what about Hitler's VW's? Should they have a mass deportation? Maybe we should have a mass burning of all the copies of Mein Kampf we can find. What about that? Perhaps we should just round up all those wo want illegal immigration and dump them across the border as an offset? That'll be FUN!
I guess you are new to this. Dane wants to use your money to support illegal invaders (none of his own of course).
he thinks it is perfectly OK to have open borders and uses 100% logical fallacies to "support" his position.
You need some learning before you berate those of us who are supporting America and identifying her enemies.
I am sure you are a very nice person. But this requires some toughness before the invaders swamp the boat. When the invaders can swim to a nearby island there is no reason to help them swamp us all.
I'm a conservative and I would support both simotaneously.
Actually I think I'm more of a conservative since I support those who take risks to create wealth for all(businesses) than some of the people who knee jerkingly hate some businesses because of the people they hire to create that wealth.
Well, now that I have clarified the clarification of your clarification of my clarification, we have clarity ;)
Let's split the cloth here.
Where is my violin to accompany that sad story?
You seem to be perfectly willing to give up other people's jobs/salary (they decrease both) and increase other peoples' tax bills so you can feel all warm and fuzzy about your new amigos.
Are you sure you're not a liberal and just haven't realized it yet?
It all works out in the end.
You are still here Dane?
I thought you did your usual "cut and run." I have multiple posts that have crushed your logical fallacies -- you have yet to respond.
Please do so. Or are you doing your other dance of "nya nya nya -- I can't hear you" when you have been bested (which happens a LOT on these threads).
I am still waiting to hear how many illegals you have in your home or are personally supporting with your money. Much less all the rest of the posts where I have crushed your assertions that you try to disguise as arguments.
And with minimal insultification.
A woman here illegally totalled my daughter's fiance's car last month. He works in an afterschool daycare program. The woman was driving her son's SUV, was backing out of a parking space and floored it. She backed into the fiance's parked chevy coupe and kept going, never stopping until she had literally shoved it into two other vehicles! The kids in the program had luckily not started walking out with their parents into the parking lot, or it would have been a tragedy!
When my daughter's fiance ran out to the parking lot, the woman got out of the vehicle and started to run away. He and some others got her to stop. She spoke no english, so someone stepped up to interpret. Basically she said it was her son's vehicle and would he please tell the police that her son was driving?
Unbelievable. No license, no insurance, here illegally and wants the person she harmed to LIE to protect her!
The son called and begged my daughter's fiance to lie to his insurance.
The cap off to the day was the local police would not even take a report, said it was private property... how can that be when it was a public school????
This is not an isolated case... this is the norm for the behavior and lack of responsibility of these lawbreakers.
Should all the Wookies be deported from Endor or not?
You can't have it both ways (Hitler, tojo AND Mussolini).
So, we can see clearly now? The rain is gone? Have all obstacles disappeared?
Now, if we can just get the illegals gone..it would be a bright, bright, sunshiney day!
I agree 100% fence first, as we cut off all public assistance. Back taxes aren't going to happen unless we do the paying so forget that. Deportation as we catch them, and by attrition.
Bull....
Personal experience tops your fantasies Dane.
Nah, it usually hauls out when someone calls it for the truth. Everything is fine and dandy as long as all of the, pardon the expression, Beaners are scrubbing toilets, roofing, picking produce, and behaving on the plantation. If they git uppity and run off; there will be heck to pay.
No one hates anyone.
It is matter of sovereignty. Do you think you should be able to sneak into mexico and take a job, then NOT get deported when caught?
It is a matter of private property. Do you think it's OK for these hordes to be trampling across your ranch, shitting and littering and giving you the finger as they flagrantly break the local, state and US laws?
It is a matter of security. Do you know that more than a small number of ME men have been caught crossing the border? How many get thru? If they have the same success rate as the mezcans, then way too many. One is too many. Do you know that thousands of criminals and previous deportees come across each year?
It's a matter of finances. While overall, some may benefit from the labor, keeping some prices low, is it fair to the magnet cities and the border towns to have to put them in jail and feed them and give them free medicine? It's a gross miscarriage of justice.
It's a matter of fairness. That somebody can come across the border illegally. Hideout for 2 or 5 years, then be given a path to citizenship. How many people have relatives that have been waiting for many years just for their papers to immigrate? Because you are mexican, you get a priority over a jamaican, a haitian, a dominican, a irishmen? I call BS.
Fix the border, then we can hash out how best to get workers.
Nope. It's not. Happened to my neighbor although she was the culprit. She moved shortly after.
Who did these things before illegals, Dane? The illegal invasion is a fairly new thing. Who did these things?
And, as usual, I am here to kick over your straw man. This has NOTHING to do with what they do when they are here. When I was young, I tarred roofs (so much for your specious assertion). I also cleaned toilets.
It has to do with what they TAKE when they are here and nothing to do with their activities.
You run this Strawman and I CRUSH it every time.
You really should stop.
Don't you love how they juxtapose the two alternatives? Illegals will all become "responsible citizens" or we can engage in "mass deportations", like the Nazis. Love the unbiased polling.
What in the heck are you talking about?
All jobs are available to Americans and the market will decide the price.
The COST of illegals to the rest of us is WAY in excess of the tiny value of their wage below market.
Or are you just saying you support breaking the law?
And, as I asked Dane -- how many illegals live in YOUR house? I assume you are personally responsibel for the welfare of a few families. You allow them to sleep in your rooms, right?
Or are you all talk and push the cost onto the rest of us?
Liberal "compassion" is easy when you stick someone else with the bill, isn't it?
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