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To: pissant
A guest worker program may have benefits. But no way are conservatives going to support ANY worker plan until the border is sealed. No more bullshit. No more mexicanization of the SW.

I'm a conservative and I would support both simotaneously.

Actually I think I'm more of a conservative since I support those who take risks to create wealth for all(businesses) than some of the people who knee jerkingly hate some businesses because of the people they hire to create that wealth.

123 posted on 09/18/2006 8:39:18 PM PDT by Dane ("Mr. Gorbachev, tear down this wall" Ronald Reagan, 1987)
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To: Dane
Dane,

Should all the Wookies be deported from Endor or not?

You can't have it both ways (Hitler, tojo AND Mussolini).

131 posted on 09/18/2006 8:47:00 PM PDT by Paladin2 (Islam is the religion of violins, NOT peas.)
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To: Dane

No one hates anyone.

It is matter of sovereignty. Do you think you should be able to sneak into mexico and take a job, then NOT get deported when caught?

It is a matter of private property. Do you think it's OK for these hordes to be trampling across your ranch, shitting and littering and giving you the finger as they flagrantly break the local, state and US laws?

It is a matter of security. Do you know that more than a small number of ME men have been caught crossing the border? How many get thru? If they have the same success rate as the mezcans, then way too many. One is too many. Do you know that thousands of criminals and previous deportees come across each year?

It's a matter of finances. While overall, some may benefit from the labor, keeping some prices low, is it fair to the magnet cities and the border towns to have to put them in jail and feed them and give them free medicine? It's a gross miscarriage of justice.

It's a matter of fairness. That somebody can come across the border illegally. Hideout for 2 or 5 years, then be given a path to citizenship. How many people have relatives that have been waiting for many years just for their papers to immigrate? Because you are mexican, you get a priority over a jamaican, a haitian, a dominican, a irishmen? I call BS.

Fix the border, then we can hash out how best to get workers.


136 posted on 09/18/2006 8:50:47 PM PDT by pissant
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To: Dane

I think you need to re-treat and go on to bed. You have been beaten to a pulp. I almost feel sorry for you but you bring it on yourself.

I think this is the finest bunch of Freepers ever assembled tonight. I love you guys because you said all the things I wanted to say but didn't know how. What a slaughter.


147 posted on 09/18/2006 9:24:17 PM PDT by Quigley
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To: Dane
I support those who take risks to create wealth for all(businesses) than some of the people who knee jerkingly hate some businesses because of the people they hire to create that wealth.

And the heck with people that steal that wealth and undermine the market that creates that wealth. Better to screw them so you can sleep "well" since the theft is from "the big guy who can afford it." Except it is not. Illegal aliens steal from native born Americans, especially the minorities, including and especially the Latinos (and all the other Persons Of Color you liberals claim to love). They steal Welfare money, they increase payroll and other taxes and take from people who are here legally.

Your Reagan quote is thin and disingenuous and smears a great man. Your tag should be revoked.

150 posted on 09/18/2006 9:32:31 PM PDT by freedumb2003 (Insultification is the polar opposite of Niceosity)
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To: Dane

"Actually I think I'm more of a conservative since I support those who take risks to create wealth for all(businesses) than some of the people who knee jerkingly hate some businesses because of the people they hire to create that wealth."

You support lawbreakers. Please explain how that is a conservative principle.


168 posted on 09/19/2006 9:00:40 AM PDT by taxed2death (A few billion here, a few trillion there...we're all friends right?)
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