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How Many Divisions Does The NY Times Have? Grey Lady Demands Apology From Pope
New York Times/NewsBusters ^ | Mark Finkelstein

Posted on 09/16/2006 3:56:54 AM PDT by governsleastgovernsbest

by Mark Finkelstein

September 16, 2006 - 06:46

In a surreal clash of the sacred and the profane, the New York Times - that citadel of secularism - has declared in its editorial of this morning that Pope Benedict "needs to offer a deep and persuasive apology," for having quoted a 14th century Christian emperor who said:

“Show me just what Muhammad brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached.”

The Times is only being fair and balanced, I suppose. After all, hardly a week goes by that you can't pick up the paper and read an editorial condemning this or that mullah, imam or ayatollah for the latest fatwa ordering the death of such-and-such infidel or the destruction of entire countries found to be an annoyance. Or not.

But the Times suddenly gets religion, if they'll excuse the expresssion, when it comes to the Pope. Oh well. At least there's one hopeful sign in all this. It was of course Stalin who dismissively asked how many divisions the Pope had. By its editorial according great weight to the words of the Pontiff, the Times would appear to be breaking with Uncle Joe. Might this be the start of a hopeful trend?


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; Russia
KEYWORDS: americahaters; catholic; dhimmis; dhimmitude; islam; islamevilempire; jesushaters; liberals; newyorktimes; popebenedict; romancatholics; secularjihad; stalin; waronjesus
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To: cibco

It's not worth it. I am a minority.


21 posted on 09/16/2006 4:27:22 AM PDT by defconw (Yes I am a Bushbot, so what of it? (Official Snowflake))
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To: cibco

:-) Nice hat!


22 posted on 09/16/2006 4:27:51 AM PDT by saveliberty (I'm a Bushbot and a Snowflake :-)
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To: mware

LOL Jesse should apologize for his antisemitic remarks (those of which we are aware)


23 posted on 09/16/2006 4:28:43 AM PDT by saveliberty (I'm a Bushbot and a Snowflake :-)
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To: saveliberty
"...the European community in general has had more harsh words for the US than the terrorists and their sponsors-- because they believe that there will be a Reformation."

Apparently a good part of Americans believe there are enough moderates Muslims that there can be a Reformation or we would not be in Iraq helping them build a nation.

Truth be told, I think the it's the Europeans in general that think a Muslim "enlightenment" is impossible. They have harsh words for Americans because we are messing with their cash cows in the ME.

24 posted on 09/16/2006 4:28:46 AM PDT by Earthdweller (All reality is based on faith in something.)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest
Thanks, GLGB.

IMO, the Pope is a 'dead man walking' from this day forward.

Wasn't it a muslim that shot John Paul II?

Thank God he had the chance to forgive his failed assassin.

25 posted on 09/16/2006 4:29:02 AM PDT by DCPatriot ("It aint what you don't know that kills you. It's what you know that aint so" Theodore Sturgeon)
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To: mware

"BTW, Jessie Jackson is on saying he should apologize."

Jesse also said on Fox that most lynchings took place after church. Really?

I'd like to see some evidence of that, since he's implying the Rosie O'Donnell argument of radical Christianity.


26 posted on 09/16/2006 4:30:19 AM PDT by toddlintown (Six bullets and Lennon goes down. Yet not one hit Yoko. Discuss.)
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To: cibco
Do as you please.

What's that suppose to mean?

27 posted on 09/16/2006 4:30:39 AM PDT by DCPatriot ("It aint what you don't know that kills you. It's what you know that aint so" Theodore Sturgeon)
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To: NYer

ping a ling


28 posted on 09/16/2006 4:30:48 AM PDT by saveliberty (I'm a Bushbot and a Snowflake :-)
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To: defconw

No you're not! We are talking about the ROP here and it's important.


29 posted on 09/16/2006 4:32:34 AM PDT by cibco (Xin Loi! Saddam)
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To: saveliberty

Thanks! {;0)


30 posted on 09/16/2006 4:33:12 AM PDT by cibco (Xin Loi! Saddam)
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To: DCPatriot

See post #16.


31 posted on 09/16/2006 4:36:49 AM PDT by cibco (Xin Loi! Saddam)
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To: Right_in_Virginia
Whether we want to believe it or not, the 'Islam Problem' must be dealt with soon.

I am grateful that somebody as powerful as the Pope has now drawn attention to the matter.

I hope he doesn't become a catalyst in the of ArchDuke Francis Ferdinand.

32 posted on 09/16/2006 4:36:58 AM PDT by DCPatriot ("It aint what you don't know that kills you. It's what you know that aint so" Theodore Sturgeon)
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To: Earthdweller

Six months ago, Europe had had fewer attacks, and that makes a difference. I do think that there is a growing fear in Europe now. But let's review how the delegations of Europeans led the negotiations with Iran to stop the nuclear programs. They got nowhere. And before the Iranian president's interview with Mike Wallace, we seem to forget that he'd openly called the UN and its diplomats stupid. Which I would think would lead one to a point that it's not possible to talk this through with Iran.


33 posted on 09/16/2006 4:37:57 AM PDT by saveliberty (I'm a Bushbot and a Snowflake :-)
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To: cibco

I see, thanks.


34 posted on 09/16/2006 4:37:57 AM PDT by governsleastgovernsbest (Watching the Today Show since 2002 so you don't have to.)
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To: saveliberty
......because they believe that there will be a Reformation.

You mean the Europeans think that just given enough time, radical Islam with reform itself?

35 posted on 09/16/2006 4:38:22 AM PDT by Conservativegreatgrandma
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To: cibco

Thanks. ;^)


36 posted on 09/16/2006 4:39:03 AM PDT by DCPatriot ("It aint what you don't know that kills you. It's what you know that aint so" Theodore Sturgeon)
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To: Conservativegreatgrandma

Yes, that was measurable as short as two years ago. If that view is changing, I hope that it's not too late.


37 posted on 09/16/2006 4:40:13 AM PDT by saveliberty (I'm a Bushbot and a Snowflake :-)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest
The Pope's reply...

NUTS

38 posted on 09/16/2006 4:40:17 AM PDT by ThomasMore (Islam is the Whore of Babylon!)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest; NYer

Text of Pope Benedict's speech here...

http://www.vatican.va/holy_father/benedict_xvi/speeches/2006/september/documents/hf_ben-xvi_spe_20060912_university-regensburg_en.html

Thanks to FReeper NYer for providing it on another thread last night.


39 posted on 09/16/2006 4:40:26 AM PDT by PGalt
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

I applaud the Pope for publically stating the obvious.
The Euro's and the liberals keep their head buried in the sand pandering to the crazies and the jihad march goes on.
I find it funny that Khatami justified the execution of homosexuals at Harvard last week and all the idiot libs could do was sit in silence. I sincerely hope the Pope does not retract his statement. I am sick of the crazies going crazy and everyone standing down to them.


40 posted on 09/16/2006 4:41:46 AM PDT by Tessarie (Europe's brains immigrated to America 100 years ago.)
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