Posted on 09/14/2006 10:59:33 PM PDT by goldstategop
(No more Olmert! No more Kadima! No more Oslo! )
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He was convicted of wearing his uniform at a political meeting, disobeying a direct order re: said uniform - not for his prayer.
The scriptures say that we will be hated for His name sake. The Word is coming to life before our very eyes.
If so, no one else was held to the rule. Can we call it "selective enforcement?" He certainly wasn't accused of proseltyzing. I doubt he would have gotten a reprimand for going to a strip club. The Navy has changed and not necessarily for the better.
(No more Olmert! No more Kadima! No more Oslo! )
You know something is very strange when someone goes
out of their way to suppress something like the mention
of the message of Christ...if it is false, why be afraid?
No one tries to suppress someone who says that
Santa Claus is real...they just humor them...and
chuckle behind their back...
someone sounds like they are afraid of the good news
of salvation from this decaying world....
...there will be gnashing of teeth someday...
The U.S. House of Representatives recently passed H.R. 5122 (line 590) to let chaplains in every branch of the US military "pray according to the dictates of their conscience." This legislation is pending in the Senate, and has not yet been signed by the President. "http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gordon_James_Klingenschmitt"
This article is a total load of crap. Funny it doesn't mention anywhere that Klingenschmitt wasn't brought up on charges for preaching on a ship in the name of Jesus, like the article implies, but for disobeying a lawful order and appearing in uniform at a political rally.
No it’s not!
It’s the don’t ask don’t tell PC crowd. Trying to do to the military what there doing to schools & government.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/10575660/
http://www.openheaven.com/forums/forum_posts.asp?TID=12051&PN=1&TPN=1
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gordon_James_Klingenschmitt
His web page
http://www.persuade.tv/
The "Nazi" version of "free speech."
What lawful order?
That's simply not so.
Navy chaplains pray in Jesus' name every day. Under law no chaplain can be forced to participate in rites that are a violation of his/her conscience.
If a chaplain doesn't want to to to a public ceremony in which the commander does not want a sectarian Christian prayer, then that chaplain can turn down that mission.
There is an issue here, but the media keeps misstating it.
The issue is requiring a certain type of prayer at a general, non-religious gathering. No arm of the government should be allowed to accept only types of prayer that are supposed "neutral."
In doing so, they favor some religious denominations over other religions. That's dangerous constitutional territory.
And when thou prayest, thou shalt not be as the hypocrites are: for they love to pray standing in the synagogues and in the corners of the streets, that they may be seen of men. Verily I say unto you, They have their reward. (Matthew 6:5 KJV)
He also violated numerous other commandments about following the orders of your superiors in your work. Here's a few:
Servants, be obedient to them that are your masters according to the flesh, with fear and trembling, in singleness of your heart, as unto Christ; (Ephesians 6:5 KJV)
Put them in mind to be subject to principalities and powers, to obey magistrates, to be ready to every good work, (Titus 3:1 KJV)
Servants, obey in all things your masters according to the flesh; not with eyeservice, as menpleasers; but in singleness of heart, fearing God: And whatsoever ye do, do it heartily, as to the Lord, and not unto men; (Colossians 3:22-23 KJV)
Servants, be subject to your masters with all fear; not only to the good and gentle, but also to the froward. (1 Peter 2:18 KJV)
Exhort servants to be obedient unto their own masters, and to please them well in all things; not answering again; Not purloining, but shewing all good fidelity; that they may adorn the doctrine of God our Saviour in all things. (Titus 2:9-10 KJV)
He had every right to pray in Jesus name. He did not have every right to stand before the cameras in uniform at a political rally in front of the white house and pray a prayer (that Jesus himself would have condemned for its ostentatiousness) in Jesus' name.
He created a media circus and now he is allowing false information to be spread about his alleged "conviction for praying in Jesus name" which was not what happened.
We cannot be expected to win this fight to change the rules if we take the low road. Chaplain Klingenschmitt and WND seem to have embarked on that road. Let us hope they do not do anymore damage to the cause in the interim.
Wonderful home page. Thanks.
BTTT
No you are the one spreading misinformation and confusion.
The events around the court-martial was the set up, excuse the technicality that could be twisted to convicted him. It goes much deeper. Read the history. He’s been a thorn in the side of the PC gang.
I think Nurnberg had something to say about blindly following your superiors.
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