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To: xzins; goldstategop; LiteKeeper; ladyinred; Getready; CheezyChesster; GATOR NAVY; quietolong; ...
Boy there is a lot of disinformation being spewed about from WND on this issue. Quite frankly I am sorely disappointed in both WND and Chaplain Klingenschmitt. Chaplain Klingenschmitt violated a direct order from his superior officer who told him not to wear his uniform to that political gathering, yet he did it, he held a press conference and then he prayed (like a hypocrite) in front of the cameras so that everyone could see how holy HE was and draw attention to HIMSELF.

And when thou prayest, thou shalt not be as the hypocrites are: for they love to pray standing in the synagogues and in the corners of the streets, that they may be seen of men. Verily I say unto you, They have their reward. (Matthew 6:5 KJV)

He also violated numerous other commandments about following the orders of your superiors in your work. Here's a few:

Servants, be obedient to them that are your masters according to the flesh, with fear and trembling, in singleness of your heart, as unto Christ; (Ephesians 6:5 KJV)

Put them in mind to be subject to principalities and powers, to obey magistrates, to be ready to every good work, (Titus 3:1 KJV)

Servants, obey in all things your masters according to the flesh; not with eyeservice, as menpleasers; but in singleness of heart, fearing God: And whatsoever ye do, do it heartily, as to the Lord, and not unto men; (Colossians 3:22-23 KJV)

Servants, be subject to your masters with all fear; not only to the good and gentle, but also to the froward. (1 Peter 2:18 KJV)

Exhort servants to be obedient unto their own masters, and to please them well in all things; not answering again; Not purloining, but shewing all good fidelity; that they may adorn the doctrine of God our Saviour in all things. (Titus 2:9-10 KJV)

He had every right to pray in Jesus name. He did not have every right to stand before the cameras in uniform at a political rally in front of the white house and pray a prayer (that Jesus himself would have condemned for its ostentatiousness) in Jesus' name.

He created a media circus and now he is allowing false information to be spread about his alleged "conviction for praying in Jesus name" which was not what happened.

We cannot be expected to win this fight to change the rules if we take the low road. Chaplain Klingenschmitt and WND seem to have embarked on that road. Let us hope they do not do anymore damage to the cause in the interim.

14 posted on 09/15/2006 6:16:55 AM PDT by P-Marlowe (((172 * 3.141592653589793238462) / 180) * 10 = 30.0196631)
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To: P-Marlowe

Wonderful home page. Thanks.


15 posted on 09/15/2006 8:04:11 AM PDT by Albion Wilde (Got freedom? Thank a veteran!)
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To: P-Marlowe

No you are the one spreading misinformation and confusion.

The events around the court-martial was the set up, excuse the technicality that could be twisted to convicted him. It goes much deeper. Read the history. He’s been a thorn in the side of the PC gang.

I think Nurnberg had something to say about blindly following your superiors.


20 posted on 09/16/2006 5:06:41 AM PDT by quietolong
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To: P-Marlowe

I suspect if the command had allowed the Chaplain to act in faith through Christ in all things, there would not have been any conflict, but rather blessings all around.

Those who are in the command and place their faith in their brotherhood over their faith in Christ, still have an opportunity to return to Him, but also manifest their tendancy of a scarred soul to accuse rather than return to Him.

I do not know if this Chaplain disobeyed legitimate authority, however, I have not met a Chaplain who has not been placed in a position of comprimise by his chain of command and by more senior members of the Chaplain Corps throughout their carreer. Most of the more senior Chaplains I've met have succeeded by comprimising their faith in Christ by a number of subtle implications so as not to offend senior members of their line command. I don't believe this was as prolific 40 years ago, but I suspect it is greatly influenced by the faithfulness of senior officers to freemasonry, rationalism, worldliness, and politics than to faithfulness through Christ in any and all things.

Indeed they now appeal to their authority to assert their will, but when that will and act is later judged, will it be found as faithful to Christ as the faith of the Chaplain?

At present IMHO, if the will of the Chaplain were allowed to prevail, both the command and Chaplain Coprs would be better served than the alternative. Worse for the command, if it rules against the Chaplain it has merely promoted a rejection of faith in Christ, rather than returning to Him and good stewardship.


64 posted on 09/17/2006 9:16:32 AM PDT by Cvengr
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