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A call to disarm
The Daily Toreador (Texas) ^ | 9/14/06 | Chris Kellerman

Posted on 09/14/2006 11:08:33 AM PDT by kiriath_jearim

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To: kiriath_jearim
Wouldn't it be great to appeal one ridiculous amendment and save thousands of lives?

Great idea! Lets repeal the right to a fair trial! Eliminate the right to an attorney! To a trial by jury! The right to appeal! Imagine all the thousands of lives we'd save if the criminal element didnt have acess to all those rights!

Schmuck.

I sure think so, and I bet if those Founding Fathers whose words we defend were alive today, they would agree.

Really? Lets see what one of them says about that:

"Those who would give up an essential liberty for temporary security deserve neither liberty nor security." - Benjamin Franklin

41 posted on 09/14/2006 11:49:12 AM PDT by lowbridge (I want to die peacefully in my sleep like my grandfather. Not screaming, like his passengers.)
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To: kiriath_jearim
People throw quotes from Thomas Jefferson and Benjamin Franklin into political debates with me all the time, and I want to hit them in the face.

Post 41. Bring it on.

42 posted on 09/14/2006 11:52:01 AM PDT by lowbridge (I want to die peacefully in my sleep like my grandfather. Not screaming, like his passengers.)
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To: robertpaulsen
"Hunters should be able to hunt ..."

People?

Sure. Why not? :-)


43 posted on 09/14/2006 11:53:28 AM PDT by lowbridge (I want to die peacefully in my sleep like my grandfather. Not screaming, like his passengers.)
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To: kiriath_jearim

Yet to me Kellerman's absurdity is just one step removed from what the Burleson City Council is talking about doing.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1701488/posts

Ban the fake and toy guns, and when tbey are removed from the public, it will be easy to remove and ban the real guns!


44 posted on 09/14/2006 11:53:28 AM PDT by TexanByBirth
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To: GW and Twins Pawpaw
I just left UT Austin. I was there for an Army School (which most at UT do not even know exists) at a nondescript off-campus building. We did see the students there... just as brain-dead looking as most other campi. There was even a presentation on the War on Terror by III Corps Commander, but since it was summer break, no students came.

I wonder how many would flip their lid knowing there was master and doctorate level military education programs at UT Austin?

By the way, what's with all of the fake "homeless beggars" who drive away nightly in their Lexuses and Cadillacs? I saw quite a few begging for handouts while they were adorned in gold necklaces and nice clothes.
45 posted on 09/14/2006 11:54:34 AM PDT by M1Tanker (Proven Daily: Modern "progressive" liberalism is just National Socialism without the "twisted cross")
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To: kiriath_jearim

I suppose this idiot thinks crime would go down after such a ban???


46 posted on 09/14/2006 11:55:26 AM PDT by G Larry (Only strict constructionists on the Supreme Court!)
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To: G Larry
I suppose this idiot thinks crime would go down after such a ban???

Well it worked in New York city. I mean Washington DC. I mean Canada. I mean Great Britain. I mean....

47 posted on 09/14/2006 11:57:53 AM PDT by lowbridge (I want to die peacefully in my sleep like my grandfather. Not screaming, like his passengers.)
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To: kiriath_jearim
"A well regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free state,

In other words, an army made up of citizens with a rcognizable command structure, not a mob. This amendment does not give the government authority over it. It does not ban the government from forming a standing army. It just give the people a right to form a militia, something the communists and bureaucrats greatly fear.

the right of the people to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed."

In other words own and carry knives, pistols, rifles, bazookas, mortars, tanks, etc. Anything less is an infringement. I could be persuaded to outlaw personal MOAB's and nuclear bombs.

48 posted on 09/14/2006 12:00:45 PM PDT by LoneRangerMassachusetts (The only good Mullah is a dead Mullah. The only good Mosque is the one that used to be there.)
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To: M1Tanker
Another good example:

2nd Amendment Outdated?

49 posted on 09/14/2006 12:04:18 PM PDT by M1Tanker (Proven Daily: Modern "progressive" liberalism is just National Socialism without the "twisted cross")
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To: kiriath_jearim

"The prospect of tyranny may not grab the headlines the way vivid stories of gun crime routinely do. But few saw the Third Reich coming until it was too late. The Second Amendment is a doomsday provision, one designed for those exceptionally rare circumstances where all other rights have failed—where the government refuses to stand for reelection and silences those who protest; where courts have lost the courage to oppose, or can find no one to enforce their decrees. However improbable these contingencies may seem today, facing them unprepared is a mistake a free people get to make only once".
JUDGE ALEX KOZINSKI


50 posted on 09/14/2006 12:05:45 PM PDT by SWAMPSNIPER (MAY I DIE ON MY FEET IN MY SWAMP, BUAIDH NO BAS)
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To: Blue Jays
Hi All-

Gungrabbers tend to be violence-inclined and intolerant people. As a very typical example, he wants to hit people in the face if they don't think just like he does...as mentioned in this sophomoric editorial:

"...People throw quotes from Thomas Jefferson and Benjamin Franklin into political debates with me all the time, and I want to hit them in the face..."

and

"...I'm also against a system that allows people to carry weapons that have the extraordinary ability to kill people at a very far distance. When it comes to all of those issues, I strongly believe that everyone else should think the exact same thing..."

This guy needs to go back to school for a bit more study on the history of our great country.

~ Blue Jays ~

51 posted on 09/14/2006 12:08:31 PM PDT by Blue Jays (Rock Hard, Ride Free)
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To: kiriath_jearim

This exact article could have been written 40 years ago. These gun-grabbers never learn a damn thing. Actually, I suspect this idiot couldn't come up with an idea for his column, so he pulled this one out of the files (or somebody else's files, since any commie could have written it, and many have)


52 posted on 09/14/2006 12:09:59 PM PDT by ozzymandus
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To: kiriath_jearim
You got it - the Second Amendment of the U.S. Constitution. Frankly, folks, I'm tired of it. We debate it all the time and get nowhere, so I say let's just remove it all together.

70 million riflemen versus this POS author .... no problem, no contest.

53 posted on 09/14/2006 12:10:37 PM PDT by Centurion2000 (Property tax is feudalism. Income taxes are armed robbery of the minority by the majority.)
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To: kiriath_jearim
You got it - the Second Amendment of the U.S. Constitution. Frankly, folks, I'm tired of it. We debate it all the time and get nowhere

I agree. Come get them as I want it to happen while I am young enough to make sure it is not easy.

54 posted on 09/14/2006 12:14:12 PM PDT by beltfed308 (Nanny Statists are Ameba's.)
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To: kiriath_jearim

I've reached the point where ridiculous articles like this no longer have any effect on my blood pressure or heart-rate. Instead, I feel a mild sense of pity for someone this dumb and delusional.


55 posted on 09/14/2006 12:14:37 PM PDT by jrp
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To: kAcknor; arthurus; KenHorse
KenHorse:
"That must be some kind of first for a gun grabber".....

I'm with Arthurus, -- that ain't even the start of his rationalizations..

kAcknor:
Don't forget, along with acknowledging the second amendment, he is also the first one to be publicly honest enough to attempt to change it the correct way, buy another amendment.

'We the people' can not amend away our inalienable rights. -- 'Majority rule' does not apply to passing laws or amendments repugnant to the principles of our Constitution. [see Marbury]

Up to now all we have gotten from them is judges limiting it as a sneak around way to change things.

One of the sneakiest is advocated a lot right here on FR by 'majority rule prohibitionists'.. They claim that State & local gov't are not required to honor Amendments unless they are "incorporated", and that even then Congress can prohibit most anything by using the commerce clause.

When Carrie Nation and her ilk went after alcohol, they did it right, it failed of course, but her solution was far more honest than anything we have seen with drugs or firearms.

The 18th was appealed on its constitutionality in 1919, and an activist USSC flat out denied that we have an inalienable right to make & drink booze.

Perhaps what we need is another Amendment [like the 14th] making it crystal clear that our inalienable rights to life, liberty, or property shall not be prohibited by any level of any government.

56 posted on 09/14/2006 12:18:21 PM PDT by tpaine
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To: Centurion2000

funny how the liberals are now whining about the Constitiution concerning wiretapping terrorists and using "torture" . they only cite the Constitution when it suits them. Feingold, Schumer, Kennedy, Levin, ad nauseum, the ones who are yelling the loudest now are the ones who consistently voting to void and gut the second ammendment.
The mayor of NY Bloomberg always talks about egetting rid of "illegal" guns yet he never states that all guns in NY City are illegal unless you are one of the politcal insiders or celeberties. They can have guns to protect themselves but of course the average everyday citizen is not worthy of self protection.
The democrats have not learned the lessons of the past few elections. Defying the rights guaranteed under the 2nd ammendment is not a winning strategy for them.
I wonder if the writer of this "get rid of the 2nd ammendment" ideology even for a minute considers the rammifications of actually implementing his plan. Does he think that for a minute we are all going to just line up and hand over our guns peacefully like good little sheep. of course I cannot speak for anybody else but I will only hand over my guns barrel first and loaded! Does this nutcase actually realize that in trying to disarm this country he will probably start a civil war? Is he so meantally challenged that he actually thinks that I will just roll over and hand em all in?
Charlton Heston said it correctly when he said :from my cold dead hands"!


57 posted on 09/14/2006 12:23:34 PM PDT by riverdog
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To: kiriath_jearim
Guns are made for one reason - to kill people.

But what about the hundreds of thousands of guns that are primarily designed and used for sporting purposes, like high tech target rifles and pistols and trap and skeet shotguns?? Guns designed and primarily used as weapons are primarily instruments of intimidation that derive their intimidating power from their ability to be used to kill.

58 posted on 09/14/2006 12:26:50 PM PDT by libstripper (!!)
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To: kiriath_jearim
This is just about the most comical rant I've ever heard from a gun-o-phobe. He's a real caricature of himself.
59 posted on 09/14/2006 12:27:18 PM PDT by shekkian
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To: kiriath_jearim
Left my comment on his page, just another leftie with a juvenile writing style.


60 posted on 09/14/2006 12:28:32 PM PDT by Tarantulas ( Illegal immigration - the trojan horse that's treated like a sacred cow)
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