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Rush Limbaugh Live Thread Wednesday 09-13-2006
RushLimbaugh.com ^ | 09-13-06

Posted on 09/13/2006 9:00:08 AM PDT by MNJohnnie

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The enemy within -- and it's not who you think (David Warren nails Islamofascism's 5th column)

Ottawa Citizen - Canada ^ | September 13, 2006 | David Warren

Posted on 09/13/2006 10:43:18 AM CDT by GMMAC

The enemy within -- and it's not who you think

Ottawa Citizen September 13, 2006

COMMENTARY: DAVID WARREN

Listening to President Bush speak, on Monday's anniversary of 9/11, after a day of distastefully sentimental memorials, my question was not what have we achieved in the last five years, but rather, what have we learned? Bush and Blair -- the captain and vice-captain of Team West in the war against "the terrorists" so far -- are both now in the twilight of their political careers. Both have recently broken with habitual discretion, and made attempts to name the enemy. This has, if anything, added to their unpopularity, for when they mention that the enemy presents himself as Islamic, there are shrill cries not only from radical Muslims, but across the spectrum of the Left in the West.

Mr Bush, much the less eloquent of the two, has now retreated from his use of the term "Islamofascist" -- which as I said in a previous column, is a fairer label than "Islamist" for an enemy that spreads a palampore of traditional Islam, over a stuffing from the Western-bred totalitarian ideologies of the 20th century. As I wrote Aug. 27, from Ahmadinejad to Zawahiri, we hear rhetoric that uses an Islamic vocabulary and crude grammar, but animated with a syntax that owes more to Hitler, Stalin, and Mao, than to the Prophet and his traditional interpreters. The term is thus meant to suggest a skewed Islam, an Islam "adapted to our age" by psychopathic men, whose own Islamic learning is purposefully politicized, and aggressively de-spiritualized. Since the alternative would be to say that Ahmadinejad, Zawahiri, et al. do speak legitimately for Islam, I don't see why anyone should object to the term "Islamofascist".

Mr Blair gave an interview worth reading to the Israeli daily, Haaretz, published Monday. The editors present characterized it as "sombre". The British prime minister was still going through the motions of advocating the "peace process", and the "two-state solution" for Israel and Palestine, without (according to me) any real conviction that it could work. It is just something Western politicians do to please the figurative "Arab street", and it does not please anyone, any more. With much more conviction, he said leaders throughout the West have grasped that we are in a truly "global struggle", for which the people of the West are not prepared. The politicians have failed to explain to us how much is at stake, and how much will be lost if we are not resolute in defence of Western values.

For all its uncharacteristic awkwardness, Mr Blair's answer to a question about British home-grown terrorists donged the bell:

"It's not necessarily what have we done wrong, because part of the problem of what you have in Western opinion is that Western opinion always wants to believe that it's our fault and these people want to have a sort of, you know, grievance culture that they visit upon us and say it's our fault. And so we have a young British-born man of Pakistani origin sitting in front of a television screen saying I will go and kill innocent people because of the oppression of Muslims, when he has been brought up in a country that has given him complete religious freedom and full democratic rights and actually a very good job and standard of living. Now, that warped mind has grown out of a global movement based on a perversion of Islam which we have to confront, and we have to confront it globally."

I frankly admire both Bush and Blair, as courageous politicians, with open minds, doing their best within the limits of what is politically possible in their respective spheres. They are both towering figures, in comparison to the little men who oppose them. We won't know what trouble is, until the little men replace them.

I continue optimistic about what can be done, should we summon the will to do it. I have written repeatedly that a robust and unified Western response to "Islamofascism" could fling it quickly onto the trash-heap of history, to join Nasserism and Baathism and other earlier manifestations of Arab nationalism and socialism. Smack it hard, without apology.

My pessimism is founded in the fear that this robust and unified response cannot be mobilized. We have a huge fifth column in the West, and it is not the Muslim immigrants. They become radicalized only because our "victim culture" encourages them to nurture their grievances. Yet most, despite temptation, remain good, decent people, doing their share of the West's work.

Our real enemy is within us, in the immense constituency of the half-educated narcissists pouring from our universities each year -- that glib, smug, liberal, and defeatist "victim culture" itself, that inhabits the academy, our media, our legal establishment, the bureaucratic class. The opinion leaders of our society, who live almost entirely off the avails of taxation, make their livelihoods biting the hands that feed them, and undermining the moral order on which our solidarity depends.


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To: OldFriend

Ditto that! Kennedy nearly started WWIII and compromised national security because he couldn't keep it in his pants (Marilyn Monroe met with Commies in Mexico after their affair).


481 posted on 09/13/2006 10:58:47 AM PDT by RasterMaster (Winning Islamic hearts and minds.........one bullet at a time!)
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To: OldFriend; All

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1700813/posts

'Air America' to File for Bankruptcy. LOL. What a surprise.


482 posted on 09/13/2006 10:59:13 AM PDT by khnyny
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To: All

If you haven't read it... I suggest you do so.

CAIR: Islamists Fooling the Establishment
http://www.meforum.org/article/916



483 posted on 09/13/2006 10:59:13 AM PDT by AliVeritas (Libs, your choice... the .380 or Glock? This is not a game, and I have bail money.)
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To: Roccus
Chalk it up to one of lifes lessons.
484 posted on 09/13/2006 10:59:47 AM PDT by ChicagoConservative27
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To: bwteim; MNJohnnie

HEY!

I AM THE QUEEN OF SMARMY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

MY CROWN!

ALL MINE!


485 posted on 09/13/2006 11:00:14 AM PDT by eeevil conservative (JOHN BOLTON FOR PRESIDENT)
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To: khnyny

She does sound like my cousin from Tarrytown. That women called before. I know the voice.


486 posted on 09/13/2006 11:00:52 AM PDT by angcat ("IF YOU DON'T STAND BEHIND OUR TROOPS, PLEASE, FEEL FREE TO STAND IN FRONT OF THEM !")
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To: bwteim

SMARMY
487 posted on 09/13/2006 11:01:01 AM PDT by sono (One Party is interested in confronting this threat - the other only in confronting Bush - Mark Steyn)
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To: RasterMaster
Have you SEEN Lamont???
Would you vote for a self-loathing George Soros Drone???
MY GOD!!! he was introduced to CT by Lowell Freakin' Weicker!!!
Do you even know what you would get with this guy???
He's a certifiable moonbat!!!
Gotta go Joe, don't gotta like it, but I gotta do it

Connecticut: Politics Big Sh*t Sandwich.
488 posted on 09/13/2006 11:01:46 AM PDT by ct_libertarian ("Who Is John Galt?" Ayn Rand)
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To: American Quilter

It wasn't '92 that the Repubs refused to vote. In '92, economic conservatives went for Ross because they thought he was more conservative.

The punishment was in '96 when first, the Republican Party thumbed its nose at the Christian Right, and then to add insult to injury, Dole announced his support for abortion. We didn't vote thrid party, We didn't vote for anyone.


489 posted on 09/13/2006 11:01:55 AM PDT by Sensei Ern (Nothing says security like the smell of gunpowder.)
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To: mewzilla
Hey, in 00, 04 and even today, I've never been in love with W. The consequences of having the opposition in power were more horrifying. I'm no apparatchik and have little use for them. But, sometimes ya just gotta differentiate between yer 'wants' and yer 'gots.'
490 posted on 09/13/2006 11:02:40 AM PDT by Roccus (Dealing with Democrats IS the War on Terror. (Stolen from FReeper Stallone))
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To: sono

HEY, I just ate, FGS.


491 posted on 09/13/2006 11:02:43 AM PDT by Fudd Fan (Some pray for peace; I pray for VICTORY that will ensure it.)
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To: A.Hun
Understood....I'm past that. I have respect for the dead...in a civilized country, that's to be expected.

And here is the "but money"....the Islamonazis will use anything, and I mean anything, to further their aims, no matter how diabolical.

Suicide bombing is a good example...hiding bomb belts underneath a supposedly seriously ill 7 year old on a gurney in an ambulance. The kid was fine....the driver of the ambulance, an employee of the Red Crescent, also happened to be a member of the Al Aqsa Brigade.

Digging up bodies to pose for the camera is another good example.

Again, I hear what you say, and you know that I have the greatest respect for you. But I have to respectfully disagree. The Islamonazis HAVE to know, that there is nowhere that they are safe, period. Hit them, hit them hard, hit them often, and keeping hitting.

And to hell, with John Murtha, Harry Reid and the rest of the traitors in the Democrat Party. I'm beyond concerning myself with niceties.

That ended when a young lady that taught my daughter, was blown up in the cafetaria of Hebrew University. And was re-inforced when the Hezbos began lobbing katyushas filled with ballbearings at innocent civilians, including my son.

I am past ascribing any degree of humanity to these maggots. Hit them wherever they are, with devastating force force, just as we did with Zarq. Two 500lb bombs...they understand only one thing, force.

Sorry for the long post, my friend.

492 posted on 09/13/2006 11:02:54 AM PDT by sofaman ("We will not tire. We will not falter. And we will not fail." Thank You, Mr President.)
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To: angcat

Let her call anytime she wants - she defines the stupid, simpering, two-faced left and displays her ignorance for all to see. She's great PR for the Pubbies.


493 posted on 09/13/2006 11:03:30 AM PDT by khnyny
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To: sono

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH!

no that is ASSHOLE!


494 posted on 09/13/2006 11:03:33 AM PDT by eeevil conservative (JOHN BOLTON FOR PRESIDENT)
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To: AliVeritas
But there is another side to CAIR that has alarmed many people in positions to know. The Department of Homeland Security refuses to deal with it.

Didn't the DHS just give them a guided tour of security facilities at O'Hare?

495 posted on 09/13/2006 11:03:40 AM PDT by Bahbah (Shalit, Goldwasser and Regev, we are praying for you)
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To: mewzilla
Here is the problem with the my way or the highway thinking of the 100%ers.

Ok, you put "principal over party" and split off to form your own group. Ok, 1st think, you have now destroyed any chance of any part of your principals being included in law. You are now politically impotent and getting everything you oppose forced on you by your political foes.

Now, along comes issue Such and Such. Suddenly your new party is confronted with a new divergence of opinion. So putting "principal over party" your party now splits again into parties Aa and Ab. This process continues on and on until it just you and 10 friends sitting around the table patting each other on the back for your ideological purity.

Your party is complete politically irrelevant but boy can you feel really good about your ideological purity. Everything in life requires compromise. The idea that you can have ONLY what you want the second you want it in politics is nonsense.
496 posted on 09/13/2006 11:03:40 AM PDT by MNJohnnie (Say Leftists. How many Nazis did killing Nazis in WW2 create? Samurai? Fascists?)
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To: Roccus
Yes. I've admitted to this before here and was roundly castigated. However, nothing comes close to what I've thought of myself for that pique of anger.

Same here. How many people who died in the embassy and U.S.S. Cole bombings might have been saved if Bush 41 and then Dole had been president? Might we even have prevented at least part of 9/11? I will never vote 3rd party again, nor withhold my vote.

497 posted on 09/13/2006 11:04:03 AM PDT by American Quilter (You can't negotiate with people who are dedicated to your destruction.)
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To: mewzilla

Mewz, look at it as a fight between conservative and liberal. Even if Lieberman is a lib, he is more conservative than Lamont. That state is too liberal to elect a Republican, even a flaming lib RINO.

Go for the most conservative you can get elected...regardless of label. Yes, it is the lesser of two evils, but it is still a vote in the right direction, not a step in the opposite.

The WOT is forcing the nation further to the right, it will take time for it to affect the left coast and the northeast.


498 posted on 09/13/2006 11:05:02 AM PDT by A.Hun (Common sense is no longer common.)
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To: American Quilter

EXACTLY!

The left truly have no idea that Newt and Clinton BOTH created their own demise....


499 posted on 09/13/2006 11:05:39 AM PDT by eeevil conservative (JOHN BOLTON FOR PRESIDENT)
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To: American Quilter

Well-said. AMEN!


500 posted on 09/13/2006 11:06:09 AM PDT by Fudd Fan (Some pray for peace; I pray for VICTORY that will ensure it.)
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