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Californians Asked to Repudiate Redding Mayor's Anti-Muslim Remarks
CAIR & The American Muslim ^ | September 11, 2006

Posted on 09/11/2006 9:07:33 PM PDT by LibWhacker

Mayor: 'Either the Judeo-Christian philosophy will survive or the Islamic philosophy will survive'

SACRAMENTO, CA -- (OfficialWire) -- 09/11/06 -- The Sacramento Valley chapter of the Council on American-Islamic Relations (CAIR-SV) today called on Californians to repudiate remarks insulting to Muslims made by a mayor in the northern part of that state.

CAIR-SV said that Redding, Calif., Mayor Ken Murray claimed Shia Muslims "believe it's acceptable to lie, cheat, steal and kill as long as it ultimately glorifies Allah." "Folks, they're not like us," said Murray.

When asked about his offensive remarks, Murray drew a distinction between "mainstream" and Shia Muslims, who he called "wing nuts." "Either the Judeo-Christian philosophy will survive or the Islamic philosophy will survive," said Murray.

Murray's comments came during an event on Thursday of last week co-sponsored by the Shasta County Sheriff's Department, the Shasta County Jail Chaplaincy and the Marshal's Office. District Attorney Jerry Benito, Shasta County Sheriff Tom Bosenko and Assemblyman Doug LaMalfa (R-Richvale) also took part in the event.

"The unthinking bigotry and ignorance of such remarks are unworthy of an American public official and should be repudiated by all those who seek tolerance and mutual understanding," said CAIR-SV Executive Director Basim Elkarra.

Local Islamic leaders tell CAIR-SV there are some 15 Muslim families in Redding.


TOPICS: News/Current Events; US: California
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"...such remarks are unworthy of an American public official and should be repudiated by all..."

Correct: It's not just shiite muslims who believe it's okay to lie, cheat, steal and murder people, it's all muslims. How could the mayor get it so wrong?

1 posted on 09/11/2006 9:07:37 PM PDT by LibWhacker
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To: LibWhacker

Dear Ali ala shitehead ... stuff it


2 posted on 09/11/2006 9:08:49 PM PDT by clamper1797 (If you don't read the newspapers you're uninformed ... if you do you're misinformed.)
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To: LibWhacker

As much as I dislike mob rule, a good old Transylvania-style monster chase might just send the muslims packing back to their 3rd world hellholes.


3 posted on 09/11/2006 9:11:43 PM PDT by Triggerhippie (Plus ça change, plus c'est la même chose.)
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To: LibWhacker
CAIR-SV Executive Director Basim Elkarra.

Who died and made YOU the conscience of the nation? Call for all Muslims to turn over all the terrorists they know about and we'll talk.

4 posted on 09/11/2006 9:11:59 PM PDT by Darkwolf377
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To: LibWhacker

He said something wrong? It must not have gotten into this article.


5 posted on 09/11/2006 9:11:59 PM PDT by KellyAdmirer
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To: LibWhacker
"In the early years of the Islamic conquest of the Arabian peninsula and in the Fatah (Arab-Islamic invasion and conquest of the upper Middle East and the outside world), a Muslim concept was devised to achieve success against the enemy (non Muslims), Al-Taqiyah. Al-Taqiyah, from the verb Ittaqu, means linguistically dodge the threat. Politically it means simulate whatever status you need in order to win the war against the enemy ...

According to Al-Taqiyah, Muslims were granted the Shar'iyee right (legitimacy) to infiltrate the Dar el-Harb (war zone), infiltrate the enemy's cities and forums and plant the seeds of discord and sedition. These agents were acting on behalf of the Muslim authority at war, and therefore were not considered as lying against or denouncing the tenants of Islam.

They were "legitimate" mujahedeen, whose mission was to undermine the enemy's resistance and level of mobilization. One of their major objectives was to cause a split among the enemy's camp while downplaying the issues related to Islam ("Oh, I am not religious." "Oh, that is not Islam, you are mistaken, there is so much misinformation." "Oh, it is in the interpretation." "Brother, Islam is all about peace and love and music just like in the 60s.") In many instances, they convinced their targeted audiences that Jihad is not aimed at them, that indigenous people are not targeted. Meanwhile the (allegedly) "un Islamic" Muslims continued their attacks on the target's property and life (e.g. Lashkar-e Toyiba, Mujahideen and Osama Bin Laden's declaration of war against innocent American civilians)."

Read more here.

This was written in the year 2000...

6 posted on 09/11/2006 9:14:13 PM PDT by snarks_when_bored
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To: LibWhacker

Sounds to me like the mayor pretty much nailed it straight on the head.


7 posted on 09/11/2006 9:15:01 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: LibWhacker
Repudiate? Ok.


8 posted on 09/11/2006 9:17:00 PM PDT by Jeff Gordon (Is tractus pro pensio.)
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To: LibWhacker

What did he say that was false and "unworthy of an American public official"?


9 posted on 09/11/2006 9:20:33 PM PDT by hsalaw
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To: snarks_when_bored

---CAIR-SV said that Redding, Calif., Mayor Ken Murray claimed Shia Muslims "believe it's acceptable to lie, cheat, steal and kill as long as it ultimately glorifies Allah." "Folks, they're not like us," said Murray.---

I don't believe all Muslims are a part of some master plan to subvert and conquer the world in the name of Allah. Many of them lie, cheat and steal simply because they are no good.


10 posted on 09/11/2006 9:25:15 PM PDT by claudiustg (Iran delenda est.)
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To: Triggerhippie

But, just in case, let's arm ourselves properly in such a project, and forego the pitchforks and torches, ok?


11 posted on 09/11/2006 9:25:58 PM PDT by SAJ ("Who doesn't jump is a French!!")
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To: LibWhacker
Matthew 7:5
First remove the beam out of your own eye, and then you can see clearly to remove the speck out of your brother's eye.



12 posted on 09/11/2006 9:26:00 PM PDT by perfect stranger (Senator Ted Kennedy (D-Mass). "Getting bombed has always struck me as the better option.")
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To: snarks_when_bored

Yep, It's perfectly acceptable for a Muslim to tell any lie to an infidel. It is perfectly acceptable further for the Muslim to do whatever he feels like doing to the infidel. Rapes, Murder, Robbery, Lies, Intimidation, if you are a Muslim it's all good.

This is war, the remnant of western civilization that remembers the way is facing two severe threats.

The external one. We will eventually be pushed one step too far. When that happens the war will be over and at a minumum tens of millions of muslins will be dead because of who they chose to listen to.

The internal, the muslim apologists and all those who want to see us destroyed. They are the far worse cancer. I fear what that may cost.


13 posted on 09/11/2006 9:29:08 PM PDT by Hawk1976 (Borders. Language. Culture. AAA-0. Free Travis Mcgee.)
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To: LibWhacker
No don't do it, Mayor. Have the Muslims to defend their position. Have them to defend their brothers pursue blood and violence. If they won't do that, ask them to condemn their brothers who pursue violence. If they won't do that ask them why is it that they are such touch holes.And kick them out.
14 posted on 09/11/2006 9:29:30 PM PDT by oyez (The way to punish a providence is to allow it to be governed by philosophers. --Frederick the Great)
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Dear Members of CAIR,

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15 posted on 09/11/2006 9:31:21 PM PDT by JustaDumbBlonde
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To: claudiustg
I don't believe all Muslims are a part of some master plan to subvert and conquer the world in the name of Allah.

Right. It's not the case that all muslims are part of the plan. However, those who desire to be good muslims and go to heaven must do what the koran and the hadiths say:  wage jihad until all kafirs either convert or are killed.

16 posted on 09/11/2006 9:31:49 PM PDT by snarks_when_bored
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To: LibWhacker

You can always tell when the truth is being told about muslims. There is outrage and anger by them.


17 posted on 09/11/2006 9:32:37 PM PDT by taxesareforever (Never forget Matt Maupin)
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To: Darkwolf377

amen to that!


18 posted on 09/11/2006 9:33:02 PM PDT by Michael.SF. (Those who do not know Islam pretend that Islam counsels against war. They are the witless." –Khomeni)
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To: dfwgator; LibWhacker

19 posted on 09/11/2006 9:36:07 PM PDT by Diver Dave
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To: Triggerhippie
As much as I dislike mob rule...

If you listen to fools.......


20 posted on 09/11/2006 9:37:46 PM PDT by perfect stranger (Senator Ted Kennedy (D-Mass). "Getting bombed has always struck me as the better option.")
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