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ABC's Untrue Path -- "Docudramas" are the worst draft of history.
Opinion Journal ^ | Sept. 11, 2006 | John Fund

Posted on 09/11/2006 12:44:19 PM PDT by PDR

Five years after 9/11, it's easy to find partisan divisions. But here's an issue we should be able to agree on: Docudramas--the portrayal of real events and people by actors--are a poor way to teach children and adults history. It's especially iffy to take dramatic license in telling the story of events in which many of the principal players are still living, such as 9/11 or President Reagan's administration.

Just ask ABC. Last night, it aired the first part of a six-hour miniseries, "The Path to 9/11." Sandy Berger, who served as President Clinton's national security adviser, bitterly complained about a fictional scene in which he stopped CIA agents who were about to kill Osama bin Laden. Former secretary of state Madeleine Albright had similar complaints. Both persuaded ABC to alter the scenes involving them. It's not known if the network also altered scenes in tonight's installment that portray Bush administration officials such as Condoleezza Rice in a negative light.

The makers of docudramas always have smooth explanations for why they need to adjust history for the purposes of storytelling. Cy Nowrasteh, the screenwriter for "The Path to 9/11," told National Review: "The Berger scene is a fusing and melding of at least a dozen capture opportunities. The sequence is true, but it's a conflation. This is a docudrama. We collapse, condense, and create composite characters. But within the rules of docudrama, we're well documented."

That's the problem with docudramas. Their rules simply aren't good enough when dealing with events that are still fresh in the minds of so many. At worst, they can be used by ideological gunslingers like director Oliver Stone, who smeared the reputations of Lyndon Johnson and Richard Nixon in paranoid fantasy films.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 911; abc; clinton; clintonlegacy; datelinenbc; doublestandard; dramatization; fahrenheit911; fakebutaccurate; fifthanniversary; johnfund; madeleinealbright; mediabias; nbcnews; notadocumentary; pathto911; sandyberger
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To: Dixie Yooper

Kiefer Sutherland's mommy! Now we know why he's such a good actor. He inheirited the talent from both sides of the family!


21 posted on 09/11/2006 12:55:58 PM PDT by California74
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To: PDR

We sure can't let anyone tell the truth on TV.

That's why we have docu-dramas.


22 posted on 09/11/2006 12:55:59 PM PDT by <1/1,000,000th%
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To: prion
Fund's is really a stupid argument. What these people seem to be saying that no movies or plays should be based on a real story or on history.

Are they saying that Hollywood should stop making any movies about historical events?

23 posted on 09/11/2006 12:57:18 PM PDT by A Citizen Reporter
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To: WoodstockCat

Shirley Douglas. Kiefer Sutherland's mom:

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0235250/


24 posted on 09/11/2006 12:57:39 PM PDT by California74
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To: PDR

For all the complaining about made up dialog, the only truly non verifiable conversations are the ones between the terrorists. The writers had interviews with enough people to get a sense of the discussions that took place within the Executive Branch as well as the conversations between competing agencies and both CIA and FBI agents.


25 posted on 09/11/2006 12:59:00 PM PDT by gov_bean_ counter ( I am sitting under my cone of silence, inside a copper wire cage wearing a tin foil hat...)
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To: PDR

Anyone that doesn't like the docudrama take on Clinton's Legacy can go
to a Clinton-friendly source...PBS.
Believe it or not...these Frontline documentaries are just as d-mning
of Bubba as "The Path To 9-11" (IMHO):

(repost from prior thread follows)

1.
"The Man Who Knew"
about John O'Neill (the fellow played by Harvey Kietel in "Path to 9-11";
shows how poorly anti-terrorism was run at the FBI during the Clinton era.
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/knew/

Note button for -- Video: Watch "The Man Who Knew" Online
Full-length DVD can be purchased here:
http://www.shoppbs.org/sm-pbs-frontline-the-man-who-knew-dvd--pi-1792419.html

2.
"Gunning For Saddam"
includes details of Clinton's failed attempt to depose
Saddam; and how US-friendly Iraqi generals paid with
their lives.
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/gunning/
Full-length DVD can be purchased here:
http://www.shopthirteen.org/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductDisplay?productId=13032&storeId=10552&catalogId=10101&langId=-1

3.
"Gunning For Saddam"
IIRC, Bubba and a number of Clintonian luminaries "declined"
requests for interviews.
See how a Christian aid worker did pull out of Kigali (like
the US Embassy staff)...
and even faced down the leader of the massacre to save some children.
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/ghosts/

Note buttons-- some video excerpts can be viewed online
Full-length DVD or VHS is available for purchase:
http://www.shoppbs.org/sm-pbs-frontline-ghosts-of-rwanda-dvd--pi-1786689.html
Also note on that page: "Sometimes In April". It's a docudrama
about Rwanda, I saw it air on PBS-KCET in Los Angeles.
It's good and sufficiently brutal; Debra Winger plays a
frustrated US government official.


26 posted on 09/11/2006 12:59:17 PM PDT by VOA
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To: Dixie Yooper
The woman who played Madeleine Albright should get an Emmy. Very believable.

Didn't you feel like just wacking her?

27 posted on 09/11/2006 12:59:45 PM PDT by frogjerk (REUTERS: We give smoke and mirrors a bad name)
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To: pissant

another county heard from.


28 posted on 09/11/2006 1:00:58 PM PDT by PDR
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To: Dixie Yooper

she's too tall.


29 posted on 09/11/2006 1:01:36 PM PDT by PDR
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To: All

I don't recall these complaints about composite characters, and docudramas when Hollywood released All the President's Men, so close to the actual events. What was it, 5 years?

I don't know that a docudrama is any worse than newspaper articles with unnamed sources, history professors teaching that the US attacked itself on 9/11, etc.


30 posted on 09/11/2006 1:02:21 PM PDT by Madeleine Ward
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To: the anti-liberal

I don't really know... what I do think important is his larger point about the efforts of the political class to censor this program... they realize that, no matter what the MSM may or may not say, that there are many, many people out there who will believe that what they saw or see in this program is actually what took place. Therefore, the Clinton spin team has to come out hard against it.


31 posted on 09/11/2006 1:03:14 PM PDT by PDR
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To: PDR

Don't you remember? The libs were screaming bloody murder about "All the President's Men."

/sarc


32 posted on 09/11/2006 1:03:23 PM PDT by SerpentDove (It's not rocket surgery.)
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To: frogjerk

smarmy comes to mind ...


33 posted on 09/11/2006 1:03:37 PM PDT by WoodstockCat (General Honore: "The storm gets a vote... We're not stuck on stupid.")
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To: PDR
The Path to 9/11." Sandy Berger, who served as President Clinton's national security adviser, bitterly complained about a fictional scene in which he stopped CIA agents who were about to kill Osama bin Laden

We all know Sandy did in fact issue the kill order, and killed UBL and saved the world. Right Mr. Burglar?

34 posted on 09/11/2006 1:03:42 PM PDT by Cementjungle
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To: weegee
"Did John Fund denounce the film that pasted George Bush's head onto an actor's body for that assassination film?"

If the technique works for George Lucas in Star Wars, it must be alright...

35 posted on 09/11/2006 1:03:56 PM PDT by the anti-liberal (OUR schools are damaging OUR children)
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To: SerpentDove

I think that's a different kettle of fish... no one disputed the accuracy of the book on which the film was based and the film was very true to the book.


36 posted on 09/11/2006 1:04:25 PM PDT by PDR
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To: dfwgator

If my memory serves me correctly, Oliver Stone's thesis in "Nixon" was that Watergate occurred because Nixon pissed off some wealthy Texas oil rancher types, who decided to take him down in retaliation.


37 posted on 09/11/2006 1:05:08 PM PDT by Hannibal Hamlin
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To: prion

Tora Tora Tora - docudrama. Gus of Navarone - docudrama. Schindler's List - docudrama. The Audie Murphy Story - docudrama. Battle of the Bulge - docudrama. Thirty Seconds Over Tokyo - docudrama...


38 posted on 09/11/2006 1:05:48 PM PDT by PghBaldy (CNN on Castro - Intestinal Crisis 2006: A People Mourn.)
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To: WoodstockCat
If words are recorded from meeting notes and corraborated then acting them out is only repeating history.

I guess in some ways it depends on how close to the original the movie can be...but to make a movie from historical documents will still require a lot of speculation to make the narrative...and that can be hard to do and still be faithful to what actually happened.
39 posted on 09/11/2006 1:05:49 PM PDT by P-40 (Al Qaeda was working in Iraq. They were just undocumented.)
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To: PDR

so that means that every movie ever made, based on an actual event, is "fiction" simply because it may not represent EVERY SINGLE FACT that occurred that day. movies about the D Day invasion, Pearl Harbor, Hiroshima, etc - are all no good, because they contain some blending of non-essential facts to make the presentation flow theatrically.

instead, let's focus on the real question - what was FALSE in the movie last night? which SIGNIFICANT information presented, was a lie?


40 posted on 09/11/2006 1:06:04 PM PDT by oceanview
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