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Tortured screams ring out as Iraqis take over Abu Ghraib
Telegraph.co.uk ^ | 10/09/2006 | Ali Saber in Baghdad and Gethin Chamberlain

Posted on 09/11/2006 2:29:30 AM PDT by utcamper

The notorious Abu Ghraib prison in Baghdad is at the centre of fresh abuse allegations just a week after it was handed over to Iraqi authorities, with claims that inmates are being tortured by their new captors.

Staff at the jail say the Iraqi authorities have moved dozens of terrorist suspects into Abu Ghraib from the controversial Interior Ministry detention centre in Jadriyah, where United States troops last year discovered 169 prisoners who had been tortured and starved.

An independent witness who went into Abu Ghraib this week told The Sunday Telegraph that screams were coming from the cell blocks housing the terrorist suspects. Prisoners released from the jail this week spoke of routine torture of terrorism suspects and on Wednesday, 27 prisoners were hanged in the first mass execution since the overthrow of Saddam Hussein's regime.

Conditions in the rest of the jail were grim, with an overwhelming stench of excrement, prisoners crammed into cells for all but 20 minutes a day, food rations cut to just rice and water and no air conditioning.

Some of the small number of prisoners who remained in the jail after the Americans left said they had pleaded to go with their departing captors, rather than be left in the hands of Iraqi guards.

"The Americans were better than the Iraqis. They treated us better," said Khalid Alaani, who was held on suspicion of involvement in Sunni terrorism.

Abu Ghraib became synonymous with abuse after shocking pictures were published in 2004 showing prisoners being tortured and humiliated, galvanising opposition to the US presence in Iraq.

The witness gained access to the prison just days after the Americans formally handed over control to the Iraqi authorities on Sept 1.

Inside the 100-yard long cell block the smell of excrement was overpowering. Four to six prisoners shared each of the 12ft by 15ft cells along either side and the walls were smeared with filth. The cell block was patrolled by guards who carried long batons and shouted angrily at the prisoners to stand up.

Access to the part of the prison containing terrorism suspects was denied, but from that block came the sound of screaming. The screaming continued for a long time.

"I am sure someone was being beaten, they were screaming like they were being hit," the witness reported. "I felt scared, I was asking what was happening in the terrorist section.

"I heard shouting, like someone had a hot iron on their body, screams. The officer said they were just screaming by themselves. I was hearing the screams throughout the visit."

The witness said that even in the thieves' section prisoners were being treated badly. "Someone was shouting 'Please help us, we want the human rights officers, we want the Americans to come back'," he said.

Prisoners interviewed in the presence of their jailers said they were frightened for their safety. They complained that chicken and milk had been cut from their rations, leaving them on rice and water. They also complained about the oppressive heat.

Outside the prison, relatives of some of the inmates said they were being tortured by their captors. One woman, who gave her name as Omsaad, said: "My son Saad [who was arrested in Fallujah as a suspected insurgent] said he is being tortured by the Iraqis to confess the name of his leader. I met my son and he told me they were being treated badly by the Iraqis."

Haleem Aleulami, who was released from the jail last week, three weeks after being arrested in Ramadi for carrying a pistol in his car, said the Americans had treated him better when they ran the jail. He claimed that visits from the International Red Cross staff had dried up and accused local human rights workers of being members of Shia groups who turned a blind eye to problems in the jail.

"The people are Iraqis and they are members of the Sciri and al Dawa parties. They have a good relationship with the leaders of the jail and they keep quiet," he said. The guards swore at the ordinary prisoners, he said, but those in the terrorist section were treated more brutally.

"The guards were swearing at us, but in the terrorist section they were beating them. I heard it all the time. Everyone knows what is happening."

And Khalid Alaani, who was also picked up in Ramadi suspected of involvement in Sunni terrorism, said: "We preferred the Americans. We asked to move with them to Baghdad airport because we knew the treatment would be changed because we know what the Iraqis are. When the Americans left everything changed."

Staff at the jail said that the prisoners were allowed out from their cells for only 15 to 20 minutes a day because of the danger from the regular mortar attacks. They are no longer allowed access to the main hall where the Americans had allowed them to watch television and the room is now reserved for the use of officers and guards. Staff explained that the air conditioning in the cell blocks had broken, although it was working in their quarters.

One officer, Capt Ali Abdelzaher, said: "We have a problem with the financing for the food, not like the Americans, and there is a technical problem with the air conditioning."

Capt Abdelzaher also confirmed that a number of inmates had been transferred from the Jadriyah detention centre, along with their guards and interrogators.

Graphic stories of abuse at that previously secret facility emerged after US soldiers found 169 prisoners showing signs of torture last November.

Most of the prisoners held by the Americans at Abu Ghraib were either released in recent months or transferred to a new £32 million detention centre at Camp Cropper near Baghdad International Airport.

Yesterday, the International Red Cross confirmed that its visits to the prison had been suspended since January 2005 on security grounds.


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To: utcamper

I for one am very pleased that Irakis are torturing Irakis in Abu Ghraib. Anytime things are put into their proper perspective, that is good news.


21 posted on 09/11/2006 3:40:42 AM PDT by rageaholic
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To: utcamper

Hey dems, let's just pull out, right? Democracy will be so well served!


22 posted on 09/11/2006 3:41:27 AM PDT by gotribe (It's not a religion.)
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To: BlessedBeGod

1st time i've seen it


23 posted on 09/11/2006 3:45:30 AM PDT by InvisibleChurch (What I do (sin) is proof of what I am (sinful).)
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To: utcamper

One word..........GOOD!


24 posted on 09/11/2006 3:46:17 AM PDT by StoneColdTaxHater
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To: BlessedBeGod
Posted 3 times already:

The moderators must be on vacation. LOL

They sometimes delete duplicate posts within minutes. Then other times multiple posts of the same news are not deleted. I have not been able to figure out why.

25 posted on 09/11/2006 3:48:19 AM PDT by vox humana
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To: utcamper

Now all of this whining about "torture" is going to bite the libs in their generous posteriors. The American sheeple are so accustomed to hearing about "torture" in the form of loud music and name-calling that these real instances of "torture" won't even phase them. It's just more torture, which they will assume is more loud music and name-calling. Big yawner. And this time it's not at the hands of the evil American imperialist baby-killers? Give me more American Idol and Survivor.


26 posted on 09/11/2006 3:53:37 AM PDT by Axhandle
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To: utcamper

That's OK, I was in the woods all weekend and this was the first time I jumped back into FR.

Since I don't view the MSM this was the first thread on the subject I saw as I pulled down the N/A page.


27 posted on 09/11/2006 3:57:03 AM PDT by PeteB570 (Guns, what real men want for Christmas)
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To: Dallas59
The Iraqis must be using polyester panties instead of cotton ones...

Plastic bags.

28 posted on 09/11/2006 3:57:55 AM PDT by Netizen
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To: utcamper
just a week after it was handed over to Iraqi authorities... 27 prisoners were hanged in the first mass execution since the overthrow of Saddam Hussein's regime.

Seems Iraq has a different way of handling terrorists. Perhaps we could learn something from them.

29 posted on 09/11/2006 4:09:08 AM PDT by American in Israel (A wise man's heart directs him to the right, but the foolish mans heart directs him toward the left.)
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To: utcamper; ariamne; AmericanArchConservative; Fred Nerks; USF; jan in Colorado; TexasCowboy; ...

Poor PRoP babies PING!

Good post, utcamper.

It seems to me that this is all assumption on the part of the "writers"/propagandists. AG had a horrible reputation long before the US troops did the "show and tell" stupidity there.

Cell walls smeared with feces? Perhaps the Scott tissue company will send over a humanitarian package.

They base their facts on second hand info from friends and relatives of the prisoners? Yeah, that's accurate reporting.

Best way to solve the "prisoner abuse problem"? Adhere to the Geneva convention rules and execute any and all enemy combatants that do not have some type of uniform designation when captured.

Less prisoners = less prisoner abuse.


30 posted on 09/11/2006 4:11:44 AM PDT by Former Dodger ( "Insanity: Doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results." --Einstein)
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To: vox humana

The moderators are human just like us. Maybe if their salaries were tripled. What is three times zero?


31 posted on 09/11/2006 4:12:09 AM PDT by 2ndClassCitizen
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To: StoneColdTaxHater

Maybe if we treated our convicts here like that, there would be less crime!!!!


32 posted on 09/11/2006 4:13:26 AM PDT by fredhead (Women want me....Fish fear me....I can dream can't I?)
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To: utcamper

This may do more to discourage the adoption of Jihadi as a career than all of the American "nicy-nice". They know how to deal with their own.


33 posted on 09/11/2006 4:17:13 AM PDT by RoadTest (- - - for without victory there is no survival. -Winston Churchill)
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To: utcamper
The prisoners are having a "Fling feces and riot" moment. In response, the guards have cut their rations and turned off the AC and put the shit-smeared cells in lockdown while they (the guards) sit in a secure air-conditioned room with CCTV.
34 posted on 09/11/2006 4:17:41 AM PDT by Alouette (Psalms of the Day: 83-87)
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To: Former Dodger

The law of unintended consequences strikes again.


35 posted on 09/11/2006 4:27:25 AM PDT by MrBambaLaMamba (Buy 'Allah' brand urinal cakes - If you can't kill the enemy at least you can piss on their god)
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To: Former Dodger
Best way to solve the "prisoner abuse problem"? Adhere to the Geneva convention rules and execute any and all enemy combatants that do not have some type of uniform designation when captured.

They ought to be aggressively interrogated using the most advanced methods before they're taken out back and sent to their virgins. Looks like the Iraquis are doing a better job in this department than we have done.

36 posted on 09/11/2006 4:29:26 AM PDT by libstripper (!!)
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To: utcamper
Twas the night the iraqis took over the prison.....and not a word was heard from the liberal U.S. media and their know-it-all friends in Congress...

"The Americans were better than the Iraqis. They treated us better," said Khalid Alaani, who was held on suspicion of involvement in Sunni terrorism.

37 posted on 09/11/2006 4:35:02 AM PDT by gitmogrunt (oppose one farce at the border)
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To: utcamper

What was the outcry when Saddam was doing it? What about all the Kurdish villages he had gassed?


38 posted on 09/11/2006 4:38:33 AM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: utcamper

Lynddie England to the White Courtesy Telephone, please!

Be Seeing You,

Chris

39 posted on 09/11/2006 4:38:44 AM PDT by section9 (Major Motoko Kusanagi says, "Jesus is Coming. Everybody look busy...")
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To: Dallas59
Or they are using Hillary Clinton's panties.

I just threw up all over my desk.

40 posted on 09/11/2006 4:58:19 AM PDT by scooter2
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