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Why the suicide killers chose September 11
The Guardian ^ | 10/3.2001 | Christopher Hitchens

Posted on 09/10/2006 8:12:29 PM PDT by BlackjackPershing

The search continues for the numinous or hieroglyphic significance of the date September 11. Believers in propaganda by deed, like Gavrilo Princip and Timothy McVeigh, usually choose to invest themselves with portentousness by selecting an anniversary that will freight their murder with meaning. Often, it is a date that only meant something to a very limited or arcane circle until its true value was unveiled to a stunned world. Thus Princip chose the date of Serbia's 14th century defeat in Kosovo and McVeigh chose the anniversary of Janet Reno's bloodbath at the Branch Davidian compound in Waco, Texas. I've also frequently heard it suggested that the timing of the recent attacks was linked somehow to the signing of the Camp David agreement in September 1978.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: america; austria; battle; empire; europe; fascists; fifthanniversary; freedom; hitchens; islam; moslem; muslim; ottoman; terror; turks; unitedstates; usa; vienna; war
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To: C210N

Why would rain make a difference with 9/11? Planes still fly in the rain.


21 posted on 09/10/2006 8:43:26 PM PDT by SamAdams76 (The Program is Morally Good)
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To: BlackjackPershing
Actually if you add 9 and 11 you get 20. President Bush spoke of the axis of evil as being 3 nations (as it was 3 nations in in WWII). Subtract three from 20 and you get seventeen!
22 posted on 09/10/2006 8:46:10 PM PDT by ElkGroveDan (The California Republican Party needs Arnold the way a drowning man needs an anvil.)
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To: SamAdams76

Not these pilots.


23 posted on 09/10/2006 8:46:45 PM PDT by John W
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To: SamAdams76
They sure do... but the terrorists were trained as VFR pilots. Flying IFR and navigating to hit the WTC would have been WELL BEYOND their expertise, while in the soup.

Actually, rain would have been fine. Its the visibility that would have been a show stopper for that day.

24 posted on 09/10/2006 8:48:15 PM PDT by C210N (Bush SPYED, Terrorists DIED!)
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To: Abigail Adams
I have thought it interesting that the twin towers looked like the number 11.

Of all the theories posted here, this is the one I'll never forget.

25 posted on 09/10/2006 8:48:35 PM PDT by lakey
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To: COEXERJ145
Yes it was clear, and was forecasted so.

Just as I recall where I was when Kennedy departed, so to when I got a cell call on the 9/11 attack - I was on the center lane/middle of the Zilwaukee Bridge.

You could easily see 30 miles, and if you looked onto the horizon, the curve of planet Earth was easily identifiable, bluest sky I have ever seen.

26 posted on 09/10/2006 8:52:01 PM PDT by quantim (Victory is not relative, it is absolute.)
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To: Howie66
"Suicide killers"???

That's why I clicked on this thread - because I highly object to those sub-humans being called anything but terrorists. I guess the media still has a problem calling some on their side "TERRORISTS".

27 posted on 09/10/2006 8:52:35 PM PDT by LibSnubber (Liberal democrats are domestic terrorists)
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To: ChadGore
All this numerology is BS.


How dare you say that? The Mothership told me the 9 and the 11 make up 19...it's all about the 19!!

28 posted on 09/10/2006 8:53:39 PM PDT by JRios1968 (Tagline for rent...inquire within)
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To: BlackjackPershing

It rained like heck in the NYC area the evening of September 10. If the terrorists were fearful of rain, they probably would have decided then to wait a week or two, rather than go to all the trouble of preparing for the next morning which also might have been rainy and maybe have to cancel at the last minute.


29 posted on 09/10/2006 8:55:14 PM PDT by KellyAdmirer
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To: quantim

You gave me chills talking about the blue sky that day.

Here in Minnesota, it was a perfect autumn day with gorgeous blue skies, until I turned on the radio.

You know the rest.


30 posted on 09/10/2006 8:55:25 PM PDT by mplsconservative
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To: BlackjackPershing
...Princip chose the date of Serbia's 14th century defeat in Kosovo...

The Austrians choose St. Vitus Day to have Archduke Franz Ferdinand visit Sarajevo and review the troops. Had he come on a different date, he would have most likely been killed on that date!

31 posted on 09/10/2006 8:57:08 PM PDT by F-117A (They say there is no such thing as an ex-Marine,.Murtha disproves that!!!)
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To: All; BlackjackPershing; Alamo-Girl

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September 10, 2001 =

Final Report to the President on how his Administration will best fight a coming War on Terrorism lands on President BUSH's desk.


September 11, 2001 =

The War on Terror itself gets to President BUSH himself first, the very next day.


Providence..? Or..

...who on Earth, or the USA, knew about the Presidential Report's scheduled date of arrival beforehand..?


I wonder.


32 posted on 09/10/2006 8:57:18 PM PDT by ALOHA RONNIE ("ALOHA RONNIE" Guyer/Veteran-"WE WERE SOLDIERS" Battle of IA DRANG-1965 http://www.lzxray.com)
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To: BlackjackPershing

Last night, Art Bell had a mathematician on who "deciphered" the date of 911 .

http://www.coasttocoastam.com/shows/2006/09/09.html

RECAP::

The 'Human Calculator' Scott Flansburg joined Dr. Simeon Hein to discuss their attempt at making a crop circle (see Math Matrix Crop Circle article below). Later in the program, Flansburg spoke about the numerical significance of 9/11, the Mayan Calendar and the Bible.


33 posted on 09/10/2006 9:01:07 PM PDT by Sam Spade
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To: ALOHA RONNIE

YAWN


34 posted on 09/10/2006 9:03:24 PM PDT by Libertarian4Bush (the underwear goes UNDER the pants! that's why they call it under-******-wear!)
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To: BlackjackPershing; P-40; C210N; Jedi Master Pikachu; Strategerist; COEXERJ145
According to this article, the tickets were purchased on 8/31/01. Weather predictions are not very accurate for such a long period.

I find it incredible that they chose such a clear day for the attacks by chance. Days like that in NYC are very rare.

http://www.boston.com/news/packages/underattack/news/planes_reconstruction.htm
35 posted on 09/10/2006 9:07:02 PM PDT by varyouga (I no longer fear death. I only fear the day when the DUmmies take over.)
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To: Cicero
September 11 ?

The Battle of Vienna took place on September 11 and September 12, 1683.

The Muslim hoards were turned back from invading Western Civilization.


36 posted on 09/10/2006 9:14:54 PM PDT by Uri’el-2012 (Psalm 144:1 Praise be to YHvH, my Rock, who trains my hands for war, my fingers for battle.)
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To: BlackjackPershing

I think I know. I went thru the Quran a long time ago to see if there was anything telling. This is verse 9.111. The numers correspond to 9/11/1, or the date it happened. Coincidence?

Look up any Quran on the net:

This is from www.quran.org


009.111
YUSUFALI: Allah hath purchased of the believers their persons and their goods; for theirs (in return) is the garden (of Paradise): they fight in His cause, and slay and are slain: a promise binding on Him in truth, through the Law, the Gospel, and the Qur'an: and who is more faithful to his covenant than Allah? then rejoice in the bargain which ye have concluded: that is the achievement supreme.
PICKTHAL: Lo! Allah hath bought from the believers their lives and their wealth because the Garden will be theirs: they shall fight in the way of Allah and shall slay and be slain. It is a promise which is binding on Him in the Torah and the Gospel and the Qur'an. Who fulfilleth His covenant better than Allah? Rejoice then in your bargain that ye have made, for that is the supreme triumph.
SHAKIR: Surely Allah has bought of the believers their persons and their property for this, that they shall have the garden; they fight in Allah's way, so they slay and are slain; a promise which is binding on Him in the Taurat and the Injeel and the Quran; and who is more faithful to his covenant than Allah? Rejoice therefore in the pledge which you have made; and that is the mighty achievement.
KHALIFA: GOD has bought from the believers their lives and their money in exchange for Paradise. Thus, they fight in the cause of GOD, willing to kill and get killed. Such is His truthful pledge in the Torah, the Gospel, and the Quran - and who fulfills His pledge better than GOD? You shall rejoice in making such an exchange. This is the greatest triumph.


37 posted on 09/10/2006 9:26:52 PM PDT by hoppity
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To: XeniaSt

We are in Profound AGREEMENT!

That was the largest incursion into the European Heartland. They have never been back. The remnants are Bosnia and Albania. We we on the wrong side there.

Bin Laden sent a message. Islam is back to reconquer and conquer. The attack in Spain was a claim on Andulusia.

Europe is not safe!


38 posted on 09/10/2006 9:32:32 PM PDT by Prost1 (I get my news at Free Republic!)
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To: XeniaSt

Hmmm...
the Polish-Lithuanian Empire,
the Hapsburgs (Austro-Hungarian Empire),
Saxony
Bavaria
Italy and the Papal States...

Where are the Swiss Calvinists? The Chech Brethren? The German Lutherans? Oh, that's right... nevermind...


39 posted on 09/10/2006 9:35:56 PM PDT by dangus
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To: dangus

thank God American Christians are on the same side in 2006.


40 posted on 09/10/2006 9:41:48 PM PDT by dangus
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