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Early Symptoms Can Warn of Sudden Cardiac Death
Food Consumer ^ | Sept. 8, 2006 | Ed Edelson

Posted on 09/09/2006 7:12:02 AM PDT by FairOpinion

Chest pain, breathlessness call for quick action, study finds

"Sudden cardiac death" often isn't all that sudden, and lives can be saved by training people about the symptoms of impending cardiac arrest and what action to take, a German study shows.

"A study of 406 sudden cardiac death patients indicates that they often have symptoms, especially the typical symptom angina pectoris [chest pain] for as long as 120 minutes before an arrest," said study lead author Dr. Dirk Muller, a cardiologist and emergency physician at the Medical Clinic II, Cardiology and Pulmonology, in Berlin.

"Two-thirds of cardiac arrest patients have a history that predisposes them to sudden cardiac death," Muller added, so efforts to reduce the toll should focus on teaching their family members to recognize the symptoms and how to perform cardiopulmonary resuscitation (CPR).

In the study, 72 percent of cardiac-arrest cases occurred at home, and two-thirds were witnessed by others.

The researchers collected information about symptoms preceding cardiac arrest for 323 patients. The most common warning sign was chest pain, which occurred for at least 20 minutes, and, in some cases, for hours, before cardiac arrest. Chest pain occurred in 25 percent of the patients whose cardiac arrest was witnessed by other persons and in one-third of other cases.

Breathlessness was the next most common symptom, seen in 17 percent of witnessed arrests and 30 percent of other cases. Other common symptoms were nausea, vomiting, dizziness or fainting.

CPR was performed on 57 patients, and 13 of them survived to be discharged from the hospital. The survival rate for those who did not get CPR was 4 percent -- 13 of 349 patients.

One notable fact was that CPR was more likely to be performed when cardiac arrest occurred in public cases -- 26 percent of the time, compared to 11 percent of the time when the attack occurred at home.

The study results were expected to be published in this week's issue of Circulation.

There are two significant messages from the study, said Dr. Ann Bolger, a professor of clinical medicine at the University of California, San Francisco, and a spokeswoman for the American Heart Association.

"The first is that people need to be educated about how cardiac symptoms can present," Bolger said. "We always try to encourage people not to discount such things as shortness of breath, things that really should demand a response, because they could be a harbinger of early death.

"The second thing is that the family is important," she added. "Many of these patients have a known history of heart problems. They are not taking us by surprise. We know that one of these things can happen to them, so, it is important to get education that if there is chest pain that does not respond to nitroglycerine, they should call 911. When a patient has active heart disease, I try to make sure that they and their family get basic training about calling 911 and get the emergency medical service on the scene. People who don't get CPR before they get to the hospital have much worse outcomes."

According to the American Heart Association, cardiac arrest is the sudden loss of heart function. The victim may or may not have diagnosed heart disease; the most common cause of death is coronary heart disease.

The AHA estimates that 330,000 Americans die each year from heart disease before reaching a hospital and urges CPR training on a large scale.

More information

For more on CPR, visit the American Heart Association.


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To: FairOpinion

***others can eat anything, smoke, drink and have no ill effects. ****

My great-grandfather and great uncle both smoked, drank like fish and lived into their 90's. Neither died of heart attacks. My dad did at 70 years.

Two of my friends fell over dead with heart attacks. Neither smoked or drank. They were in their 40's and 50's. The younger one had just had two heart stents put in and still fell over dead at work.


21 posted on 09/09/2006 7:45:25 AM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar ((Democrats have never found a fight they couldn't run from...Ann Coulter))
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To: FairOpinion; patton

here is an email i got from pattons mom a while back.
it's a pretty informative piece on detecting strokes.
very timely and also related to heart attacks. i hope
it helps some out there. :)





STROKE IDENTIFICATION:

During a BBQ a friend stumbled and took a little fall - she assured
everyone that she was fine (they offered to call paramedics) and just
tripped over a brick because of her new shoes. They got her cleaned up
and got her a new plate of food - while she appeared a bit shaken up,
Ingrid went about enjoying herself the rest of the evening. Ingrid's
husband called later telling everyone that his wife had been taken to
the hospital - (at 6:00pm, Ingrid passed away.) She had suffered a
stroke at the BBQ - had they known how to identify the signs of a
stroke perhaps Ingrid would be with us today.

It only takes a minute to read this-

Recognizing a Stroke


A neurologist says that if he can get to a stroke victim
within 3 hours he can totally reverse the effects of a
stroke...totally. He said the trick was getting a stroke
recognized, diagnosed an getting to the patient within 3
hours which is tough.

RECOGNIZING A STROKE

Thank God for the sense to remember the "3" steps. Read and Learn!

Sometimes symptoms of a stroke are difficult to identify.
Unfortunately, the lack of awareness spells disaster. The stroke victim may suffer brain damage when people nearby fail to recognize the symptoms of a stroke.

Now doctors say a bystander can recognize a stroke by asking three simple questions:

1. *Ask the individual to SMILE.

2. *Ask him or her to RAISE BOTH ARMS.

3. *Ask the person to SPEAK A SIMPLE SENTENCE (Coherently)
(i.e. . .It is sunny out today) If he or she has trouble with any of these tasks,
call 9-1-1 immediately and describe the symptoms to the dispatcher.

After discovering that a group of non-medical volunteers could identify facial weakness, arm weakness and speech problems, researchers urged the general public to learn the three questions.
They presented their conclusions at the American Stroke Association's annual meeting last February. Widespread use of this test could result in prompt diagnosis and treatment of the stroke and prevent brain damage.

A cardiologist says if everyone who gets this e-mail sends it to 10 people; you can bet that at least one life will be saved.

BE A FRIEND AND SHARE THIS ARTICLE WITH AS MANY FRIENDS AS POSSIBLE, you could save their lives.


22 posted on 09/09/2006 7:50:10 AM PDT by leda (Life is always what you make it!)
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To: basil

That is a good point...I am going to carry some in my purse...thank you


23 posted on 09/09/2006 7:52:12 AM PDT by Kimmers
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To: deport

an ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure!


24 posted on 09/09/2006 7:52:43 AM PDT by leda (Life is always what you make it!)
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To: dawn53

"But if you're a middle aged woman and you present at the ER with chest pain and breathlessness, they might just tell you you're having an anxiety attack.

Happened to my aunt, she went home from the ER, and died in her sleep the same day. "

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I believe it -- articles tend to put the blame on the patient, that the patient should go to the doctor, but ignore the FACT, that MOST doctors don't take patients' symptoms seriously, then it's too late. Doctors need to start taking patients' complaints seriously, instead of dismissing it as "it's probably nothing, it's all in your head" etc.


25 posted on 09/09/2006 7:53:02 AM PDT by FairOpinion (Dem Foreign Policy: SURRENDER to our enemies. Real conservatives don't help Dems get elected.)
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To: leda

an ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure!



Kinda like an apple a day keeps the doctor away?!!!!!

LOL

But seriously if one decides to do the daily asprin routine they should check with their Doctor first for clearance and to determine dosage, 80 or 350 mg.


26 posted on 09/09/2006 7:55:33 AM PDT by deport (The Governor, The Foghorn, The Dingaling, The Joker, The other guy..... The Governor wins)
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To: dawn53

*** But if you're a middle aged woman and you present at the ER with chest pain and breathlessness, they might just tell you you're having an anxiety attack. ****

My mother-in-law is like this. Any flutter of the heart and she goes into a panic mode, calls 9-11, calls us. The emergency crews are usually there when we show up, she is hollering and making a scene.
The instant I and my wife walk in the door she immediatly settles down, then begins to gripe at the first responders. We have told them in the past that if she ever begins to gripe at them it means she is now OK.

It used to happen every month. Now she is on a different heart regulator medicine.


27 posted on 09/09/2006 7:55:40 AM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar ((Democrats have never found a fight they couldn't run from...Ann Coulter))
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To: deport
asprin = aspirin

Sheesh...... twice on the same thread.
28 posted on 09/09/2006 7:56:28 AM PDT by deport (The Governor, The Foghorn, The Dingaling, The Joker, The other guy..... The Governor wins)
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To: VOA



"genetics trump lifestyle every time."

California man lives to ripe age of 112, despite sausage-and-waffles diet

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/1694117/posts

"Everything in his body that we looked at was clean as a whistle, except for his lungs with the pneumonia," Coles said. "He had no heart disease, he had no cancer, no diabetes and no Alzheimer's."

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Thanks! I didn't remember the title and couldn't find it. I'll bookmark it now.


29 posted on 09/09/2006 7:57:42 AM PDT by FairOpinion (Dem Foreign Policy: SURRENDER to our enemies. Real conservatives don't help Dems get elected.)
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To: dawn53
How about this one:

I had a heart attack during a treadmill test, with a doctor and nurse right there in the room. I was a 47-year old pre-menopausal female in good physician, not overweight, non-smoker.

I told them that I was in distress: cold sweat, clammy feeling, heaviness in my arms. They told me I was doing fine. I actually PASSED the treadmill test. Then the horrific pain started.

All hell broke loose after that. I went into cardiac arrest twice in the ambulance. Thank god for the EMTs - they are my heroes.

I've always wondered...if I'd been a 47-year old MAN.

30 posted on 09/09/2006 7:57:46 AM PDT by Inspectorette
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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar

"It used to happen every month. Now she is on a different heart regulator medicine."


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It sounds like she was NOT imagining things, she really was having heart rhythm irregularities on her previous medication. It's a good thing the doctor FINALLY changed her medication.


31 posted on 09/09/2006 8:00:45 AM PDT by FairOpinion (Dem Foreign Policy: SURRENDER to our enemies. Real conservatives don't help Dems get elected.)
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To: deport
yep! definitely check with your doctor first.

i heard a bit on the news the other day about coated aspirins.
the dr. said that the coating doesnt dissolve until it reaches
your bowels. this prevents optimal effects of the aspirin. of
course, people with sensitive stomachs may still need to take
these, but they should also be aware of this to determine the
strength they need to take.
32 posted on 09/09/2006 8:01:12 AM PDT by leda (Life is always what you make it!)
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To: FairOpinion

self-ping for some good heart advice


33 posted on 09/09/2006 8:01:40 AM PDT by Graymatter (TV-free and clean for 3 years, 2 months.)
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To: leda

"Now doctors say a bystander can recognize a stroke by asking three simple questions:

1. *Ask the individual to SMILE.

2. *Ask him or her to RAISE BOTH ARMS.

3. *Ask the person to SPEAK A SIMPLE SENTENCE (Coherently)
(i.e. . .It is sunny out today) If he or she has trouble with any of these tasks,
call 9-1-1 immediately and describe the symptoms to the dispatcher. "


====

Thanks for the information. I didn't know this and I am sure many others didn't either and it may save lives, if people recognize the early signs.

I did read about medications that can be adminstered and they dissolve the blood clot and reverse a stroke, but, as you said, the key is that they only work if they are administered within a couple of hours from the time the stroke happened.


34 posted on 09/09/2006 8:02:51 AM PDT by FairOpinion (Dem Foreign Policy: SURRENDER to our enemies. Real conservatives don't help Dems get elected.)
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To: Inspectorette
"I had a heart attack during a treadmill test, with a doctor and nurse right there in the room"


===

Thanks for sharing your horrible experience.

I just don't understand why doctors, including cardiologists, who REALLY should know better, still ignore symptoms of a heart attack, when the patient is a woman.

Heart attacks are the NO. 1 cause of death for women and doctors still aren't paying attention.

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A Woman's Heart: Symptoms of Heart Attack

http://womenshealth.about.com/cs/heartdisease/a/sympofheartatta.htm


Every year hundreds of thousands of women die as the result of a heart attack or other cardiovascular disease. What many people, including many healthcare professionals, don't realize is that the symptoms of heart attack in women are often different than in men. Women are more likely to experience nausea, dizziness, and anxiety as symptoms that indicate a heart attack.
Chest pain-may also include back pain and/or deep aching and throbbing in one or both arms.


Breathlessness and/or inability to catch your breath when waking up.


Clammy sweating.


Dizziness--unexplained lightheadedness, possible blackouts.


Anxiety--unusual nervousness, feelings of impending doom.


Edema--fluid retention and swelling usually of the ankles or lower legs.


Fluttering--rapid heartbeats, palpitations.


Nausea--gastric upset.


Feeling of heaviness, such as pressure-like chest pain between the breasts that may radiate to the left arm or shoulder.

Cardiovascular disease is the number one cause of death in women and it is the most preventable cause of death. Women should pay particular attention to these symptoms and seek immediate advice from a healthcare professional if these symptoms occur.


=====

WOMEN: PRINT THIS OUT AND SHOW IT TO YOUR SCEPTICAL DOCTOR.
35 posted on 09/09/2006 8:11:48 AM PDT by FairOpinion (Dem Foreign Policy: SURRENDER to our enemies. Real conservatives don't help Dems get elected.)
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To: FairOpinion

****1. *Ask the individual to SMILE.
2. *Ask him or her to RAISE BOTH ARMS.
3. *Ask the person to SPEAK A SIMPLE SENTENCE ****

I had this happen to me back in 1994 after surgery.
I tried to speak but couldn't.
Could not stand up.
Went partially temporary blind.
lost bladder control.

I was back to normal in about 30 minutes.
It is still scarry.

I am now on an increased coumadin dosage.


36 posted on 09/09/2006 8:12:40 AM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar ((Democrats have never found a fight they couldn't run from...Ann Coulter))
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To: Inspectorette
wow! thank goodness you were in the right place!

i have high cholesterol and high blood pressure, both are
completely genetic (thanks mom and dad). my internist put
me on all sorts of diets and exercise plans to no avail. those
figs didn't budge a bit despite enormous weight loss, etc.

i'm set for life on minimal maintenance levels of meds and,
of course, a regular aspirin a day for life.

genetics play a huge role in this and prevention and early
detection are the keys.
37 posted on 09/09/2006 8:14:44 AM PDT by leda (Life is always what you make it!)
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To: leda
Stubborn people die. They don't want to make a fuss and show that they are vulnerable.

Both of my parents had strokes, both at night in bed. Mom survived and Dad did not.
38 posted on 09/09/2006 8:16:11 AM PDT by Battle Axe (Repent for the coming of the Lord is nigh!)
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To: FairOpinion
if people recognize the early signs

exactly! early detection and prevention is crucial.
the first on the scene just need to know what to
look for so treatment can be more effective.
39 posted on 09/09/2006 8:21:02 AM PDT by leda (Life is always what you make it!)
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To: FairOpinion

A heart attack is not always the result of clogged arteries. My wife had a mild one but it was due to her high blood pressure, now controlled. Her arteries were completely clear. She was in cardiac rehab for over a year and I had to fight with the cardiologist to put her on meds necessary to bring it down to where it belonged. Your health is in your own hands. Do not let apathy on the part of medical professionals to put you six fieet under.


40 posted on 09/09/2006 8:21:31 AM PDT by RichardW
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