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Why Do Men Need War? It's Male Bonding?
The Telegraph (UK) ^ | 9-9-2006 | Roger Highfield

Posted on 09/08/2006 8:08:32 PM PDT by blam

Why do men need war? It's male bonding

Reports by Roger Highfield and Nic Fleming

(Filed: 09/09/2006)

Men need threats, rivalry and war for them to work together the most effectively, according to a study of the "male warrior effect".

The issue of why men start wars has been investigated in a series of experiments by Prof Mark van Vugt of the University of Kent. They reveal that conflict is part of male bonding.

"We all know that males are more aggressive than females but with that aggression comes a lot of co-operation," Prof van Vugt said yesterday. While male co-operation lies at the heart of democracy and leadership, and men work better in hierarchical groups than women, it is a double-edged sword.

"Men might need wars to show off their altruism, to be celebrated as warriors and heroes," the professor added.

Women in general are better at co-operating. "Women leaders are more dovish than hawkish," Prof van Vugt said.

In a forthcoming issue of the journal Psychological Science, Prof van Vugt and colleagues in Kent and at the University of Tilburg describe laboratory tests which show that rivalry drives males to make sacrifices for their group more than women.

The experiments involved about 300 students. Equal numbers of men and women were divided into groups of six who could only interact by computer.

They were each given £3 that they could invest for the group, when it would be doubled and divided equally among the group, or keep for themselves. Those who did not co-operate reaped the most benefit. They would end up with £3 plus any money divided among the group.

But when the group was told it was competing with other universities, "it was the men who started to be very altruistic and invest in the group fund. The women were less sensitive".

This "male warrior effect" is consistent with findings from other disciplines.

"Men are more likely to support their country going to war," Prof van Vugt said. "Men are more likely to lead groups in more autocratic, militaristic ways.

"Men have evolved a psychology that makes them particularly interested, and able to engage, in warfare."

Similar behaviours can be seen in a "pristine primordial form" in chimpanzees, he added.

"They go out on raids into neighbouring communities and kill off members of rival groups." Aside from warfare, the males do not usually co-operate, the professor said.


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: bonding; male; men; metrosexual; need; war; why
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1 posted on 09/08/2006 8:08:33 PM PDT by blam
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Already posted: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1697991/posts


2 posted on 09/08/2006 8:10:44 PM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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OH, a study done by a metrosexual professor. I trust his judgment. *Sarcasm off


3 posted on 09/08/2006 8:10:53 PM PDT by jrooney ( Hold your cards close.)
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Women leaders are more dovish than hawkish

Idiots.

4 posted on 09/08/2006 8:11:12 PM PDT by Brett66 (Where government advances – and it advances relentlessly – freedom is imperiled -Janice Rogers Brown)
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Why? Because human civilization is based on systematic murder.


5 posted on 09/08/2006 8:11:15 PM PDT by Tax Government (Defeat Islamic imperialists and their democRAT allies)
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The simple fact is we like to blow stuff up.


6 posted on 09/08/2006 8:12:39 PM PDT by Fzob (Why does this tag line keep showing up?)
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Can there be any doubt that this study was funded by Soros?
7 posted on 09/08/2006 8:13:08 PM PDT by Gay State Conservative ("An empty limousine pulled up and Hillary Clinton got out")
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Reports by Roger Highfield and Nic Fleming

Let me guess, "long time companions"?
8 posted on 09/08/2006 8:14:14 PM PDT by Welsh Rabbit
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Women leaders are more dovish than hawkish

That might be true three weeks out of the month. : )

9 posted on 09/08/2006 8:14:27 PM PDT by teenyelliott (Soylent green should be made outta liberals...)
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OMG, thank god for a man's instincts to protect his family and land!

Who needs a study for that?
10 posted on 09/08/2006 8:15:24 PM PDT by roses of sharon
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Wars happen because of human nature.

There is always somebody who wants what somebody else has.


11 posted on 09/08/2006 8:16:03 PM PDT by ZULU (Non nobis, non nobis, Domine, sed nomini tuo da gloriam. God, guts, and guns made America great.)
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"Women leaders are more dovish than hawkish,"

Which of course explains Prime Ministers Golda Mier, Indira Ghandi, and my favorite, Margaret Thatcher.

It also explains She Who Must Not Be Mentioned (The one with the cankles). While she's not hawkish on American interests, she is hawkish on her own.

12 posted on 09/08/2006 8:17:20 PM PDT by El Gato
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There is always somebody who wants what somebody else has.

Or who just wants everyone to be just like themselves, one way or another. Such our current Jihadies.

13 posted on 09/08/2006 8:19:56 PM PDT by El Gato
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Interesting post.
I must admit that I've never heard or read about chimpanzees "going to war" as it were.
But then again I really don't read a lot about chimpanzees and their behavior.
14 posted on 09/08/2006 8:21:35 PM PDT by Fiddlstix (Warning! This Is A Subliminal Tagline! Read it at your own risk!(Presented by TagLines R US))
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Why Do Men Need War?

We don't need it,but this is a very esoteric question.

How about this Roger Highfield and Nic Fleming,so we and our families won't be killed.

It ain't brain surgery.

15 posted on 09/08/2006 8:21:44 PM PDT by mdittmar (May God watch over those who serve,and have served, to keep us free.)
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Why Do Men Need War? It's Male Bonding?

Yeah, we feel closer to each other when we're trying to kill each other.
16 posted on 09/08/2006 8:21:46 PM PDT by Man50D (Fair Tax , you earn it , you keep it!)
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What kind of a girl named "Roger" wrote this article?


17 posted on 09/08/2006 8:22:07 PM PDT by Dog Gone
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Why Do Men Need War? So the one who wins can dictate the term of a lasting peace.


18 posted on 09/08/2006 8:22:22 PM PDT by A CA Guy (God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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Why would abyone even propose this question unles they were limp-wristed?


19 posted on 09/08/2006 8:22:47 PM PDT by Toby06
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ROTFL! I am not a man, and were I in charge shock and awe would be the main feature tonight all over the middle east!


20 posted on 09/08/2006 8:23:19 PM PDT by ladyinred (Bill Clinton, you are a dirt bag!)
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