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Risk of U.S. recession growing: HSBC
yahoo news ^ | 9-8-06

Posted on 09/08/2006 10:57:03 AM PDT by Hydroshock

NEW YORK (Reuters) - Investment bank HSBC has revised downward its forecast for 2007 economic growth and cautioned that the risk of an outright recession is growing as a retreat in housing threatens household balance sheets.

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The company argues that while corporate profits have remained sky-high, the incomes of most Americans have effectively fallen over the last 18 months.

That, say economists Stephen King and Ian Morris, could be a recipe for hard times in an economy that relies on consumers for over two-thirds of its strength.

"Never before have households been so hard hit at a time companies are doing so well," the two economists said in a research note to clients. "So it's likely that the U.S. could slow down quite a long way."

They now see gross domestic product expanding just 1.9 percent next year, down from an earlier forecast of 2.6 percent and from an expected rate of growth around 3.5 percent for 2006.

Making things worse, the bank says, a mammoth budget deficit means the U.S. government has "less room to maneuver" if the economy does skid off track.

In the last recession, a massive round of tax cuts and a super-loose monetary policy helped the economy get a second wind. Americans will have no such luck this time around, King and Morris warn.


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1 posted on 09/08/2006 10:57:05 AM PDT by Hydroshock
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To: Hydroshock

LOWER RATES! YOU OVER SHOT AGAIN FED !


2 posted on 09/08/2006 10:58:17 AM PDT by samadams2000 (Somebody important make....THE CALL!)
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To: Hydroshock

Free your inner WillieGreen.


3 posted on 09/08/2006 10:58:42 AM PDT by MarkeyD (The tree of liberty must from time to time be watered with the blood of tyrants and patriots.)
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To: samadams2000

This article is a farce.


4 posted on 09/08/2006 10:59:04 AM PDT by lonestar67
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To: lonestar67

Hong Kong and Shanghai Bank want the Democrats to win. I wonder why?


5 posted on 09/08/2006 11:00:29 AM PDT by VanShuyten (One of my hungry and forebearing friends was sounding in the bows just before me.)
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To: Hydroshock
risk of an outright recession is growing as a retreat in housing threatens household balance sheets.

This is probably factually correct. Just like, if I have two pennies, and lose one, I have lost 50% of my money.

6 posted on 09/08/2006 11:00:37 AM PDT by Paradox (The "smarter" the individual, the greater his power of self-delusion.)
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To: Hydroshock

Pure BS. When have the so called Economic expert been right as of late? Shouldn't we be filling up our tanks right now with $3 to $4 per gallon gas from $100 per barrel oil? The price of oil is dropping by the dollar daily and the price for a gallon of gas is dropping by the day down here.


7 posted on 09/08/2006 11:01:45 AM PDT by The South Texan (The Democrat Party and the leftist (ABCCBSNBCCNN NYLATIMES)media are a criminal enterprise!)
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To: Hydroshock

Dunno, lately there is a trend of the Fed holding over the Economy until a new President is elected and then they dump in his lap.

They did it to Bush, and they will do it to the next President as well.


8 posted on 09/08/2006 11:03:38 AM PDT by Marius3188 ( I have not told half of what I saw - Marco Polo)
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To: Hydroshock

I see you love talking down the economy just like a good little democrat. You make willy green look like an optimist, except you don't talk about high speed rail much.

In my area, house prices have not driopped one bit. I wish like hell they would, I'm planniing on buying soon.

I am in the construction industry. We are flat out busy. The State of Connecticut can't get people to bid work because they are all way tooo busy. We can't get enough help because they all have good jobs already. We have to bring in rental equipment from Ohio because there is none available in New England. It's all out working.

We have 80% of next years workload already filled.

Recession, my A$$!


9 posted on 09/08/2006 11:06:03 AM PDT by Toby06
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For the record, on October 31, 2001, CNN's Brooke Jackson reported:

“Three days before Christmas 1992, the National Bureau of Economic Research finally issued its official proclamation that the recession had ended 21 months earlier. What became the longest boom in U.S. history actually began nearly two years before Clinton took office.”

10 posted on 09/08/2006 11:16:03 AM PDT by Maceman (This is America. Why must we press "1" for English?)
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To: lonestar67

Why? Would gain could HSBC possibly see in talking down the US economy?


11 posted on 09/08/2006 11:28:19 AM PDT by SmoothTalker
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To: Hydroshock

We're DOOOOMMMMED!!! BUSH'S FAULT! /moonbat


12 posted on 09/08/2006 11:34:23 AM PDT by JamesP81 ("Never let your schooling interfere with your education" --Mark Twain)
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To: SmoothTalker

Reuters despises the United States and President Bush.

The article is written with a lead from a somewhat mainstream data point. The Reuters then seeks out sources to confirm their notions of subverting the US economy. There is not indication after the first two paragraphs that HSBC is the source of the info-- yet Reuters tries to create this impression.

Who are these "economists"?

They are partisan hacks in my estimation.


13 posted on 09/08/2006 11:35:54 AM PDT by lonestar67
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To: Hydroshock

Yep, the risks of a recession grow every single day the expansion continues.

Even the Clintons couldn't repeal the business cycle.


14 posted on 09/08/2006 12:03:51 PM PDT by cosine
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To: VanShuyten

Maybe because they are sponsoring many of their election bids?


15 posted on 09/08/2006 12:11:17 PM PDT by 308MBR (I'll be back for YOU, Jack, and I'll let the MACHINE speak! That's right. That's right.....)
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To: SmoothTalker

""Why? Would gain could HSBC possibly see in talking down the US economy?"


You cant talk the economy up or down. I would love to know what recession was started by "talk"


16 posted on 09/08/2006 12:13:54 PM PDT by DontBelieveAugPolls
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To: VanShuyten

Hong Kong and Shanghai Bank want the Democrats to win. I wonder why?




They want change. They're holding a huge amount of U.S. paper...they can't dump the paper and they don't want to buy more.


17 posted on 09/08/2006 12:16:29 PM PDT by durasell (!)
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To: Hydroshock

Must be election season...


18 posted on 09/08/2006 12:16:47 PM PDT by Antoninus (I don't vote for liberals, regardless of party.)
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To: DontBelieveAugPolls

a recession in 2007 guarantees Hillary will be elected


19 posted on 09/08/2006 12:19:23 PM PDT by DontBelieveAugPolls
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To: Hydroshock
Over two years ago HSBC predicted the Housing Bubble would crash then in a Business Week article:

Rather than a sudden wallop, the economic impact would be gradual and grinding. Ian Morris, U.S. economist at HSBC Securities Inc. (HBC ), estimates that housing prices nationally will slide 5% to 10% over the next five years. That could cause economic growth to slow to 2% by the second half of 2005 from 4% now, he predicts in a report called The U.S. Housing Bubble.

I am not buying their latest economic outlook either.

20 posted on 09/08/2006 12:25:28 PM PDT by Always Right
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