Judge halts Bible giveaway at Mo. school

AP on Yahoo ^ | 9/7/06 | Jeff Douglas - ap

[NormsRevenge]

Now if it was Korans..

Judge Perry is a 1994 Clinton appointee

[Prost1]

Arrest the judge!

End judicial tyranny!

[My2Cents]

saying it improperly promotes Christianity.

Yeah, well I think U.S. District Court Judge Catherine Perry improperly promotes corrosive secularism and the social and moral nihilism it produces.

[GSlob]

There must be the right not to be bibled at [ditto for being koraned, torahed, rigvedaed and so on] against one's will. The least they could have done was to ask for the willing recipients and hand the bibles to them only.

[smoothsailing]

Judge Perry would look the other way on free condoms from NAMBLA, I suspect.

[NormsRevenge]

The least they could have done was to ask for the willing recipients and hand the bibles to them only.

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That would seem to be a reasonable approach.

The article says 2 sets of parents were the complainants in this instance. This program had been going on for years it seems.

---Acting on behalf of two sets of parents from the district, the American Civil Liberties Union sued in February in federal court in St. Louis.---

[msnimje]

Or condoms.

[micro-faraday]

Perhaps that explains why he seems to have more than passing familiarity with the U.S. Constitution.

[msnimje]

Being handed a bible is going to hurt someone?

[Huntress]

Sheesh. I still 2 or 3 little Gideon Bibles from when I was in school 20 years ago. I'm not particularly religious, but I was never offended or threatened when I was handed a Bible.

[LiteKeeper]

Not THAT book! Oh my!

[GSlob]

Forcing anything , be it a bible or a roll of toilet paper, on those who do not want to receive it, fundamentally hurts.

[dayglored]

> Now if it was Korans...

An interesting speculation.

But suppose it actually WAS Korans. How would you feel about that?

Suppose it was copies of the Jehovah's Witnesses' "Watchtower". How would you feel about that?

Suppose it was copies of a Hare Krishna cult's recruiting booklet. How would you feel about that?

Suppose it was a pamphlet explaining that while one (other) brand of Christianity is true, your particular brand of it is wrong and your children are going to burn in hell for heresy?

Once you let "our" side hand stuff out, you gotta let 'em ALL hand stuff out.

I'm not at all sure I feel good about that.

[fortheDeclaration]

Acting on behalf of two sets of parents from the district, the American Civil Liberties Union sued in February in federal court in St. Louis.

Thank God for the ACLU, protecting American children from the Bible.

And which side do you think they would be on if this was Porn?

[freepatriot32]

so you cant give away bibles in a MO school but california school kids have to pretend to be muslims for a semester according to another freerepublic thread that i cant find right now. Yeah thats consistent and non hypocritical

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[dayglored]

> Thank God for the ACLU, protecting American children from the Bible. And which side do you think they would be on if this was Porn?

Oh for Pete's sake. The ACLU might defend the rights of adults to view porn, but even they know better than to claim kids have a right to it.

As we attack the ACLU, let's at least keep our minds clear. It improves our chances of winning.

[Shethink13]

Forcing anything , be it a bible or a roll of toilet paper, on those who do not want to receive it, fundamentally hurts.

Give me a break!!!! They're not FORCING anything on anyone - they're handing them books. The receivers are perfectly free to reject the bibles, take them home, color in them or toss them in the trash.

[backtothestreets]

NOTES:

1. The First Congress of The United States of America funded the printing of bibles with taxpayer money. These were men with much familiarity of what was, and was not Constitutional.

2. Nearly 60 years after the Fourteenth Amendment was ratified, the Taft Supreme Court extended the "incorporation doctrine" to include states (local government and schools) in the First Amendment restriction upon CONGRESS and the establishment of religion.

3. It is this 1925 Supreme Court ruling that is the foundation for all subsequent rulings against religion in public schools, state and local government.

4. The only way of setting aside the 1925 ruling is a Constitutional Amendment restoring the First Amendment as it was ratified.

[NormsRevenge]

Thanks for your comments. I left the sarcasm tag off, should have probably put it on.

Just curious, what would one give an atheist? a gift book or maybe a road atlas so they can find their own way?

It doesn't sound like anyone was actually forced to take the offering of the Gideons.

More so that the offering was made that was offensive to a few parents.

if anyone is at fault , it is the school board, but then the question will be if they are within their bounds to act as they have or should an outside org. be able to exert undue influeence over what is ideally a local operation. the parents can always move if they were that offended is what comes to mind, or maybe homeschool.

it seems when the few are allowed to determine how the majority should live, no one is satisfied.

i don't feel too good about that myself. when choice is gone , so is hope, it seems.

we'll have to see how this plays out or if it just peters out.

[unsocialist]

"Forcing anything , be it a bible or a roll of toilet paper, on those who do not want to receive it, fundamentally hurts."

I don't believe force was an issue.

"A federal judge ordered a small-town school to suspend a program that gives free Bibles to students..."

This is a freedom of speech issue.

Would you consider a politician offering bumper stickers and pins on the street corner fundamentally threatening?

Would you consider a school offering free condoms to students an act of forcing them to have sex?

Is your fear in the Bible itself?