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Once a Progressive State, Minnesota Is Now a Fief of the N.R.A.
The New York Times ^
| September 5, 2006
| VERLYN KLINKENBORG
Posted on 09/04/2006 11:19:03 PM PDT by neverdem
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To: Myrddin
a social calendar at the range that would be the envy of most social organizations. International silhouette matches, cowboy action shooting, youth firearms training, local law enforcement training, long range shooters, airgun target tournaments. That's just the September lineup.
Wow...do you have a link for that, please?
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posted on
09/04/2006 11:46:42 PM PDT
by
The Spirit Of Allegiance
(Public Employees: Honor Your Oaths! Defend the Constitution from Enemies--Foreign and Domestic!)
To: CzarNicky; ghostmonkey
The Riefenstahlian Wellstone assembly has remained in the minds of Minnesotans...
To: goldstategop
CASTLE laws means the attacked need not be passive pawns....
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posted on
09/04/2006 11:51:41 PM PDT
by
The Spirit Of Allegiance
(Public Employees: Honor Your Oaths! Defend the Constitution from Enemies--Foreign and Domestic!)
To: goldstategop
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posted on
09/04/2006 11:51:53 PM PDT
by
neverdem
(May you be in heaven a half hour before the devil knows that you're dead.)
To: SteveMcKing
These people are against self-defense. But its no problem for them if the criminals and terrorists are armed. That's the natural order of things and we have to get used to it. But armed, law-abiding citizens are intolerable.
(No more Olmert! No more Kadima! No more Oslo! )
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posted on
09/04/2006 11:53:38 PM PDT
by
goldstategop
(In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
To: neverdem
No. But they are a gun-banners paradise, ruled by anti-2nd Amendment Democrats. And as long as they are in power, for Klinkenborg and his ilk, those states will never be part of the NRA's fief.
(No more Olmert! No more Kadima! No more Oslo! )
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posted on
09/04/2006 11:55:36 PM PDT
by
goldstategop
(In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
To: goldstategop
"And then there's California." Believe me.....California may not be a "shall issue" state, but it is certainly NOT "gun free"..
Semper Fi
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posted on
09/04/2006 11:59:39 PM PDT
by
river rat
(You may turn the other cheek, but I prefer to look into my enemy's vacant dead eyes.)
To: river rat
Oh give 'em time. They want us disarmed and they're trying to figure out how to do so without causing too much commotion.
(No more Olmert! No more Kadima! No more Oslo! )
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posted on
09/05/2006 12:01:08 AM PDT
by
goldstategop
(In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
To: neverdem
Slowly the logical conclusion sank in. If firearms are banned on these premises, then they must not be banned in other places.This guy is working slower than a crackhead with a jonesing.
So that no one misses the point, the Legislature has also turned Minnesota into what is called a shall require state.
The author AND his editors are ignoramuses.
The way I see it, Minnesota is only one step away from requiring every citizen to carry a gun and use it when provoked.
This man's mental confusion, as evidenced by his following thought "The criminals know theyre not supposed to have them but find them easy to get" is the definition of cultural victimhood.
A person carrying a concealed weapon cannot be banned from a public building, even if its a library full of kids.
Accepting the fact that criminials can get their hands on guns, including nutjobs intent on Dunblane style massacres in libraries full of kids and bunnywabbits, he doesn't believe the parents of the kids should be able to shoot the nutjob befoer the kids are the victims and the parents mourners.
Yet it isnt possible for a member of the public to find out who has received a permit and may, in fact, be packing heat.
This "man" accepts the fact that criminals will know where to find guns illegally, goes on to blame the NRA for criminals acquiring guns, then demands the necessary solution is an internet searchable database of every CCW gun in the state. Maybe he believes "members of the public" and "criminals" are mutually exclusive classifications?
But Minnesota? I grew up thinking of Minnesota as a socially progressive state. After all, it was home of the D.F.L. the Democratic Farmer Labor Party and a place where local control and common sense had strong roots.
1. this man equates socially progressive political parties as centralized bureaucracies that keep the citizenry defenseless, and calls this local control. His common sense, as he explicitly states, is a stripping of the individual the right to self defense in the name of the common good. "A nation is formed by the willingness of each of us to share in the responsibility for upholding the common good." Congresswoman Barbara Jordan
Every concealed weapon, with very few exceptions, is a blow against the public safety. The new gun laws in Minnesota take away local discretion over concealed-weapon permits, and they cost the local authorities plenty too.
Mr. Lott has proven this oft repeated notion false. John Lott doesn't have a column in the NYTimes, so he actually doesn't exist.
The last three paragraphs are some wild eyed speculation. It's a really sad piece, the "shall require" mistake sets the tone, the ignorant preaching to the dwindling number of adherents to the victimhood cult of the "socially progressive" state.
To: neverdem
Conceal carry with "must issue." That sounds like PROGRESS to me. Progressive? Sure.
To: goldstategop
Yeah, a big democratic sweep in November; not!
Gun control has been a big flop. The liberals are in a fog as they are on every social issue they embrace. Simply it's
do nothing.
The liberal contempt for their bretheren.
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posted on
09/05/2006 12:06:15 AM PDT
by
ChiMark
To: Free Baptist
Liberalism is reactionary. Conservatism is progressive. But you'd never learn that from reading the NYT's liberal agit-prop.
(No more Olmert! No more Kadima! No more Oslo! )
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posted on
09/05/2006 12:06:58 AM PDT
by
goldstategop
(In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
To: neverdem
VERLYN KLINKENBORG
The face of generic, uninformed liberal hysteria.
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posted on
09/05/2006 12:07:09 AM PDT
by
Stoat
(Rice / Coulter 2008: Smart Ladies for a Strong America)
To: ChiMark
A barely disguised one at that. I say let them indulge in their dreams of reasserting their superiority over their lessers throughout the fall. Americans need to see liberals exactly for who they are, when they drop, as here, their phony mask of pretend moderation. They're freedom-denying collectivists.
(No more Olmert! No more Kadima! No more Oslo! )
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posted on
09/05/2006 12:09:29 AM PDT
by
goldstategop
(In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
To: Stoat
Ain't nothing home to write about. Maureen Dowd looks more fetching. But there aren't too many fetching liberals around. Their idea of a good looking woman is... Helen Thomas!
(No more Olmert! No more Kadima! No more Oslo! )
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posted on
09/05/2006 12:11:09 AM PDT
by
goldstategop
(In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
To: Stoat
Whoops! Wrong pic above, here is the twit:
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posted on
09/05/2006 12:11:37 AM PDT
by
Stoat
(Rice / Coulter 2008: Smart Ladies for a Strong America)
To: Stoat
If I had any edit button, I'd have had to correct too many pronouns. Oh well - it wouldn't surprise me in the least if he was a cross-dresser.
(No more Olmert! No more Kadima! No more Oslo! )
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posted on
09/05/2006 12:14:49 AM PDT
by
goldstategop
(In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
To: Stoat
I would add "smug" to the list of adjectives.
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posted on
09/05/2006 12:15:31 AM PDT
by
FreedomPoster
(Guns themselves are fairly robust; their chief enemies are rust and politicians) (NRA)
To: Stoat
And it works for either pic.
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posted on
09/05/2006 12:16:24 AM PDT
by
FreedomPoster
(Guns themselves are fairly robust; their chief enemies are rust and politicians) (NRA)
To: neverdem
I am smiling right now just thinking of how upset Garrison Keillor must be about this. Bwahahahaha!
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posted on
09/05/2006 12:16:57 AM PDT
by
L.N. Smithee
(Angelides vs. Schwarzenegger = Hillary vs. Gore)
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