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Everyday Ethics: Should he report an illegal voter?
Star Tribune ^ | 09.01.06 | Jeremy Iggers

Posted on 09/04/2006 10:09:39 AM PDT by wallcrawlr

Q I have an acquaintance who is studying in the United States on a student visa. In a social contact following the last national election, he made it clear he had voted. Since he is not a U.S. citizen, I was somewhat taken aback by this, so I questioned him. He said he simply went to the polls, presented a driver's license and was registered to vote.

He rationalized that if it was so illegal for him to vote, then the poll judges should not have so readily accepted his eligibility, and he added that he felt he had a right to vote since he must pay taxes. When I questioned him about the oath he had to take, he got angry. A mutual friend who saw him at the polls confirmed that he had voted.

I am of two minds: Should I report him to the authorities, which could lead to loss of his visa, and possibly prison or deportation, and separation from his wife and child? Or, as my wife advises, should I just mind my own business?

From our last conversation, it is clear that he plans to vote again in the upcoming primary and elections. Some in my circle of friends argue that he constitutes only one vote, and ask "What difference would that really make?" Others seem to admire his chutzpah in his resistance of authority. Still others feel someone should "do something about it," but express an unwillingness themselves to take any action.

A Tough questions. Let's start with the easy parts.

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Having said that, I don't think we all have an obligation -- legal or moral -- to act as agents of the state, or enforcers of the law.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; Foreign Affairs; Politics/Elections; US: Minnesota
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1 posted on 09/04/2006 10:09:40 AM PDT by wallcrawlr
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To: wallcrawlr

Your obligation to the law here is clear. He violated it you must report it.


2 posted on 09/04/2006 10:10:49 AM PDT by kjo
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To: wallcrawlr

If a guy sets his wallet down and turns his back, do I have a right to steal it because he wasn't paying attention?


3 posted on 09/04/2006 10:12:17 AM PDT by cripplecreek (If stupidity got us into this mess, then why can't it get us out?)
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To: wallcrawlr

Sorry for the guy that he might lose his family and be deported, but he should've known better than to violate the law. Gotta be reported.


4 posted on 09/04/2006 10:12:50 AM PDT by anthropos
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To: wallcrawlr

I'd turn in the wife.


5 posted on 09/04/2006 10:13:13 AM PDT by toddlintown (IT)
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To: wallcrawlr

Voted for sKerry; didn't he?


6 posted on 09/04/2006 10:13:55 AM PDT by Calusa (Hey, Nick, was you ever stung by a dead bee?)
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To: cripplecreek
A liberal gets his home robbed and I witness it. Do I laugh or report it?

Answer Both

7 posted on 09/04/2006 10:16:21 AM PDT by bmwcyle (Only stupid people would vote for McCain, Warner, Hagle, Snowe, Graham, or any RINO)
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To: wallcrawlr

Report him. He is undermining the very foundation of our society.


8 posted on 09/04/2006 10:16:52 AM PDT by beltfed308 (Nanny Statists are Ameba's.)
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To: wallcrawlr
The sad thing is that the question even needed to be asked. It's a no brainer. Report the jerk.
9 posted on 09/04/2006 10:18:09 AM PDT by Texas Mom (Two places you're always welcome - church and Grandma's house.)
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To: wallcrawlr
From our last conversation, it is clear that he plans to vote again in the upcoming primary and elections.

Nice of the MSM to help decriminalize the perception of voter fraud.

10 posted on 09/04/2006 10:18:30 AM PDT by King Moonracer (Bad lighting and cheap fabric, thats how you sell clothing.)
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Should I report him to the authorities

Yes. Nothing will happen to him or to the poll workers but at least you did your civic duty.
11 posted on 09/04/2006 10:20:58 AM PDT by P-40 (Al Qaeda was working in Iraq. They were just undocumented.)
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Isn't "failure to report a crime" a crime?
We should report this ethically challenged letter writer!
And put him AND his friends in jail!

Their wives too!!!

GOD HELP US - WHAT IS HAPPENING TO THIS COUNTRY?!!!


12 posted on 09/04/2006 10:28:28 AM PDT by fuzzy122 (GBGB [God Bless George Bush] and Our Armed Forces!)
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To: wallcrawlr

Stupid question,but is it correct for me to assume that when someone registers to vote,their registration form is verified for accuracy?


13 posted on 09/04/2006 10:30:23 AM PDT by Thombo2
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The only question is to whom do you report this? Prepare for a lot of the runaround.


14 posted on 09/04/2006 10:31:22 AM PDT by GoBucks2002
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Is this one of those urban legends? How do one vote without being registered in-advance?


15 posted on 09/04/2006 10:31:29 AM PDT by Fishing-guy
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There is no ethical problem.

The man is a foreign agent who has committed, and plans to continue committing, acts to change American government.

He is a spy.

If convicted, hang him and deport the family.

I take this seriously.


16 posted on 09/04/2006 10:32:01 AM PDT by Peelod (Decentia est fragilis. Curatoribus validis indiget.)
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Everyday Ethics: Should he report an illegal voter?

ABSOLUTELY !!!!!

17 posted on 09/04/2006 10:33:15 AM PDT by Dustbunny (The BIBLE - Basic Instructions Before Leaving Earth)
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"The measure of a man's character is what he would do if he knew he never would be found out."


18 posted on 09/04/2006 10:34:14 AM PDT by ItsForTheChildren
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To: Peelod

Yes, people have given their lives to protect our electoral rights. It's crazy to even consider not prosecuting fraudulent voters.


19 posted on 09/04/2006 10:34:59 AM PDT by Gondring (If "Conservatives" now want to "conserve" our Constitution away, then I must be a Preservative!)
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To: wallcrawlr
And the columnist answers NO

Having said that, I don't think we all have an obligation -- legal or moral -- to act as agents of the state, or enforcers of the law.

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Reasonable people can disagree about how serious illegal voting is, based on their underlying moral attitudes.

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Could we solve this problem on a societal level by insisting that everybody who wants to vote should be required to provide proof of citizenship? I think the benefits of such a solution are outweighed by the obstacles that it would create for a lot of honest people.

Think this guy is a Democrat?

20 posted on 09/04/2006 10:36:07 AM PDT by freedumb2003 (the war on poverty should include health club memberships for the morbidly poor)
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