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'If you want to find true happiness, just fake it' (The New New Feminism)
The Observer ^ | September 3, 2006 | Amelia Hill

Posted on 09/03/2006 7:49:20 PM PDT by MAD-AS-HELL

'If you want to find true happiness, just fake it'

In her latest book, the feminist icon Fay Weldon has caused a sensation by turning the beliefs of the sisterhood upside down. By Amelia Hill Amelia Hill Sunday September 3, 2006

Observer Telling women not to expect orgasms but to fake them, and to praise their partner lavishly afterwards, is not advice normally associated with a woman who has been in the vanguard of feminism for four decades.

Nevertheless, Fay Weldon gives short shrift to the views for which feminists have fought so bitterly over the years. In her latest book, she not only warns high-flying women that they should expect to end up single, she also suggests that sexual pleasure may be incompatible with high-powered careers and that women should simply accept they are less capable of being happy than men.

'Eighty per cent of women only sometimes - or never - experience orgasm. Facts are facts and there we are. Deal with it,' she writes in What Makes Women Happy?, to be published this month by Fourth Estate.

According to Weldon, sensible members of the sisterhood should, therefore, follow the example so graphically set by the actor Meg Ryan in the 1989 movie When Harry Met Sally, and fake orgasms whenever necessary.

'If you are happy and generous-minded, you will fake it and then leap out of bed and pour him champagne, telling him, "You are so clever" or however you express enthusiasm,' she says. 'Faking is kind to male partners ... Otherwise they too may become anxious and so less able to perform. Do yourself and him a favour, sister: fake it.'

(Excerpt) Read more at observer.guardian.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial
KEYWORDS: fake; feminism; happiness; orgasm; sexes; women
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To: eyespysomething
Ask my husband.

Let me remove his ball-gag first.

61 posted on 09/04/2006 5:52:45 AM PDT by Lazamataz (Islam is a perversion of faith, a lie against human spirit, an obscenity shouted in the face of G_d)
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To: Lazamataz

Well, of course. It's so hard (ahem) to tell when a man has, uh, "reached completion."


62 posted on 09/04/2006 5:55:26 AM PDT by Malacoda (Bu**er Islam)
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To: Malacoda
Well, of course. It's so hard (ahem) to tell when a man has, uh, "reached completion".

Tip of the day (so to speak):


63 posted on 09/04/2006 5:57:45 AM PDT by Lazamataz (Islam is a perversion of faith, a lie against human spirit, an obscenity shouted in the face of G_d)
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To: sgtbono2002
Orgasms are the meat in the sex stew

That explains the problems I had with vegan chicks in college.

64 posted on 09/04/2006 6:00:59 AM PDT by Tijeras_Slim (1 year guarantee against congenital defects.)
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To: Xenalyte

If this doesn't merit a salacious ping, I don't know what does.


65 posted on 09/04/2006 6:01:39 AM PDT by Tijeras_Slim (1 year guarantee against congenital defects.)
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To: Lazamataz

lol, no you don't have to, he can nod


66 posted on 09/04/2006 6:07:11 AM PDT by eyespysomething
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To: eyespysomething

Good point.


67 posted on 09/04/2006 6:10:20 AM PDT by Lazamataz (Islam is a perversion of faith, a lie against human spirit, an obscenity shouted in the face of G_d)
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To: Hildy
You can't do this when you're NOT married? Hmm.

Of course you can, but there are some studies showing that sexual satisfaction tends to increase with marriage.

68 posted on 09/04/2006 6:14:35 AM PDT by Fairview
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To: Lazamataz
There was a young lady in Munich,
Who was wooed by a passionate eunuch . . . .
69 posted on 09/04/2006 6:22:06 AM PDT by AnAmericanMother ((Ministrix of Ye Chase, TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary (recess appointment)))
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To: MAD-AS-HELL
'Faking is kind to male partners ... Otherwise they too may become anxious and so less able to perform.

I wonder if that would apply to vibrators as well? Don't want to demoralize the Energizer Bunny, doncha know ;-)

70 posted on 09/04/2006 6:28:57 AM PDT by varon (Allegiance to the constitution, always. Allegiance to a political party, never.)
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To: Gator113
The teacher thinks to herself, "I don't want to call on Johnny cause he will say something bad."

So many "Johnny Jokes" have that line in it, I love Johnny jokes... : ) <<< me

71 posted on 09/04/2006 6:40:18 AM PDT by stopsign ("What great fortune for government, That people don't think"....Der Fuhrer. Hummm.... : ) <<< me)
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To: Fairview
Of course you can, but there are some studies showing that sexual satisfaction tends to increase with marriage.That's contrary to what every married man has ever told me. Oh, except mine, of course! :)
72 posted on 09/04/2006 6:57:41 AM PDT by Hildy
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To: goldstategop

Posted at the end of the article:

"Feminists who have rocked the boat

'In a patriarchal society all heterosexual intercourse is rape because women, as a group, are not strong enough to give meaningful consent'
Attributed to Catherine MacKinnon, feminist author

'People call me a feminist whenever I express sentiments that differentiate me from a doormat or a prostitute'
Rebecca West

'When a woman reaches orgasm with a man she is only collaborating with the patriarchal system, eroticising her own oppression'
Sheila Jeffreys, lesbian feminist

'A good part - and definitely the most fun part - of being a feminist is about frightening men'
Julie Burchill"


73 posted on 09/04/2006 11:05:17 AM PDT by DesignerChick
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To: sgtbono2002
Most men wil be more than happy to do requests.

"Ladies, I have a tip for you about men. If there's something that turns you on, something that gets you a little hot, something that kinda gets your motor runnin' in bed... TELL US WHAT THE #@!&% IT IS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!" -- Sam Kinison

74 posted on 09/04/2006 12:40:21 PM PDT by HHFi
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To: finnigan2

What happened to your funny bone whe you couldnt tell my reference to dusting meant he wasnt shooting sperm but dust. geez .


75 posted on 09/04/2006 7:10:39 PM PDT by sgtbono2002 (The fourth estate is a fifth column.)
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To: sgtbono2002

"What happened to your funny bone whe you couldnt tell my reference to dusting meant he wasnt shooting sperm but dust. geez ."

- I'm confused.
Your original post (#16) clearly conveyed the sense that the word, "dusting" referred to a woman cleaning herself, ie; a post coital douche. Now, with the above clarification you are implying that the term dusting applied, not to her, but to her male partner "shooting sperm".
Perhaps the analogy you were looking for is not "dusting" but "shooting blanks".


76 posted on 09/05/2006 6:33:07 AM PDT by finnigan2
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To: finnigan2

This is goping nowhere-fast.


77 posted on 09/05/2006 11:18:43 AM PDT by sgtbono2002 (The fourth estate is a fifth column.)
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To: sgtbono2002
"This is goping nowhere-fast."

- Goping?
Please remember that FR has a spell checker. You convince no one when you attempt to use words words bigger than "elephantshit".
As an aside, I noticed that your previous posts displayed an ignorance of when to employ an apostrophe in a sentence.
I let it pass, thinking it was just an aberration - but now I'm not so sure.
What gope's?
78 posted on 09/05/2006 1:26:10 PM PDT by finnigan2
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To: finnigan2

Nice Post ,remind me to give a damn what you think.

As for you allowing something to pass . Now thats funny. When did the administrators appoint you spelling police and grammar expert?

If you dont like 'em dont read'em . I know I could care less and am certain others could too.


79 posted on 09/05/2006 7:49:45 PM PDT by sgtbono2002 (The fourth estate is a fifth column.)
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To: sgtbono2002

"When did the administrators appoint you spelling police and grammar expert?"

- Lesson Of The DAY:
When challenging somebody on FR, make sure your facts are right, your spelling is correct and your grammar is acceptable. Otherwise you leave yourself open to easy rebuttals. For example, the phrase above, "you spelling police" is grammatically incorrect. "You" is singular and "police" is plural.


80 posted on 09/06/2006 10:29:05 AM PDT by finnigan2
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