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Junk mail postman 'still in job' (faces discipline because he told how to AVOID junk mail)
The BBC ^ | September 1, 2006

Posted on 09/03/2006 11:16:12 AM PDT by Stoat

Junk mail postman 'still in job'

 

Roger Annies
Roger Annies advised people how to reduce their junk mail
A postman suspended for telling people how to stop receiving junk mail says he remains a Royal Mail employee, but will know if he is to be sacked in a week.

Roger Annies, 45, attended a disciplinary hearing after circulating his own leaflet on his round in Barry, south Wales, about unsolicited mail.

Royal Mail said their "door to door" service was vital to its business and keeping costs to customers down.

Some residents in Barry said they may start a petition to support Mr Annies.

Following the hearing in Cardiff, Mr Annies told reporters he was not allowed to comment, but confirmed he was still employed by the Royal Mail.

Amarjite Singh, acting south east Wales representative for the Communication Workers Union, said : "He will have to wait seven days now to find out what the outcome will be.

TO STOP JUNK MAIL, CONTACT:
Unaddressed mail - Opt-Outs, Royal Mail, Kingsmead House, Oxpens Road, Oxford, OX1 1RX
Addressed mail - Mail Preference Service (MPS), Freepost 29, LON 20771, London, W1E 0ZT or call 0845 703 4599
Source: Postwatch

"The matter is now finished and it is just a matter of awaiting to hear what the decision will be.

"He gave his version of events about what was involved and whether he acted as he did through malice or whether it was a misunderstanding."

Mr Annies delivered a leaflet to households on his round which gave instructions on how to stop receiving "unwanted post".

But the father-of-one, from Barry, was suspended when his actions came to the notice of Royal Mail managers.

Mr Annies is originally from Germany, and Mr Singh said although his English was good, it was his second language and he was capable of making mistakes.

"Everything is now being weighed up," he said.

"The worse case scenario is that he loses his job. We all hope that it will not come to that," he added.

'Fed up'

Karen Sacrel, who lives opposite Mr Annies in Barry, said some people were talking about starting a petition to support him.

She told BBC Wales: "We totally feel it's unfair, and he is all for the people.

"I've spoken to other people and they don't want junk through their mail either. We get loads of junk and we're totally fed up with it.

"He was doing us all a favour but unfortunately he's had a lot of trouble over it.

"We think they should give him his job back and a pat on the back for thinking on behalf of the people. He's a very loyal postman."

Barry councillor Robert Curtis said: "All the local ward councillors had a discussion about this and in principle they support what Mr Annies is doing.

"If the Royal Mail do manage to silence him then we will carry on with his campaign and make sure all residents know about the opt-out service regarding junk mail."

Royal Mail has said it delivers less than a quarter of the UK's unaddressed mail saying "if we do not deliver this mail then rival companies will".

When asked about the disciplinary hearing, a spokeswoman for the Royal Mail said they would not issue a statement .

 

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KEYWORDS: britain; england; greatbritain; junkmail; mad; mail; rogerannies; royalmail; uk; unitedkingdom
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To: humblegunner; leda

If leda's book gets published, I will buy a copy for you.


21 posted on 09/03/2006 12:39:23 PM PDT by patton (Sanctimony frequently reaps its own reward.)
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To: patton
If leda's book gets published, I will buy a copy for you.

I hope it has capitalization. It hurts my eyes to read that text-kiddie no-caps crap.

22 posted on 09/03/2006 12:45:16 PM PDT by humblegunner (If you're gonna die, die with your boots on.)
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To: humblegunner

LOL - I will see what I can do.


23 posted on 09/03/2006 12:46:30 PM PDT by patton (Sanctimony frequently reaps its own reward.)
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To: dalereed
Con you do it on line?

I do everything I can to keep from giving the PO 39 cents to accomplish anything.

Yes you can, here's a link.

Oh, they will charge you a dollar on your credit card, but it will save you the cost of a 24 cent post card.

24 posted on 09/03/2006 1:13:11 PM PDT by ASA Vet (3.03)
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To: ASA Vet

Which is why it's now called standard mail.


25 posted on 09/03/2006 4:26:22 PM PDT by skepsel
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To: Ciexyz

Well its better than the mailmen that just throw out the junkmail.


26 posted on 09/03/2006 5:39:17 PM PDT by escapefromboston (manny ortez: mvp)
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To: skepsel
Which is why it's now called standard mail.

IMO that's not why we changed the names of the classes.
For many many years mail was judged by using 1st Class mail as a standard for delivery speed.
We had 2nd Class which was newspapers and magazines.
There was 3rd Class which was advertising flyers, newsletters, and such which were under 1 lb.
3rd Class could also be sent as a single piece for a rate less than 1st Class.
3rd Class of mail never went by air.
There was also 4th Class for parcel post, book rate, etc.

Changing the name of 3rd Class to Standard Class is a covert attempt to make it's slower delivery expectations the "standard," thus over a few years lowering the publics expectations.

1st Class in now slower than it was 10 years ago.
We created Priority Mail to pretend to give a expectation of quicker deliver.
Actually Priority is a subset of 1st Class.
The "standard" delivery time for Priority anywhere in the US is 2 - 3 days.
Guess what! The standard delivery time for 1st Class anywhere in the nation is 2 - 3 days.
Priority is an excellent gimmick for us, and a rip off for the customer.
(I'm not allowed to say this stuff if you call me on my work phone.)

27 posted on 09/03/2006 6:39:08 PM PDT by ASA Vet (3.03)
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To: chuckles

I here that, I would also like to know how I can stop getting phone books, we get 6 per year. 3 desk sized copies, and 3 full sized ones.


28 posted on 09/03/2006 6:40:35 PM PDT by LukeL
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To: ASA Vet

Bulk Business Mail pays for a lot of salaries. And it keeps down the cost of First Class Mail, also. We should just accept the "junk mail" in our mailboxes as part of mail delivery at low cost.


29 posted on 09/05/2006 5:37:37 PM PDT by Ciexyz (Leaning on the everlasting arms.)
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To: escapefromboston

If the mail carriers throw out mail, it's the same as theft.


30 posted on 09/05/2006 5:38:09 PM PDT by Ciexyz (Leaning on the everlasting arms.)
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To: Larry Lucido

Call up Postmaster Wilfred Brimley!


31 posted on 09/05/2006 5:45:46 PM PDT by Puddleglum
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To: Ciexyz
In my medium size office we take in about $70,000,000 in annual revenue from bulk business mail using 12 BMEU clerks.
Those 12 clerks bring in 60% of the total revenue for our post office, which includes 10 delivery stations/branches/annexes and 3 processing plants.
Another way of looking at it is that each of those 12 BMEU clerks brings in revenue which provides for the salaries of about 100 other Postal employees.
32 posted on 09/05/2006 6:03:00 PM PDT by ASA Vet (3.03)
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To: Ciexyz
Ya, that was my point. He actually doesn't seem to breaking any laws (or even any Postal regulations)
33 posted on 09/06/2006 5:52:02 PM PDT by escapefromboston (manny ortez: mvp)
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