Posted on 09/02/2006 8:39:06 PM PDT by VictoryIsInevitable
The Conservative Case for Rudy Giuliani in 2008
John Hawkins of Right Wing News makes the conservative case against Rudy Giuliani for 2008. Hawkins’ piece largely consists of the same old anti-Rudy arguments wrapped in slightly new packaging, focusing a lot on Rudy’s decade-old socially liberal positions on a few cultural issues, as well as his Manhattanite personal life and some nonsense about unelectability (more on that later). As such, I think this is a great opportunity for someone to lay out the conservative case for Rudy in ‘08. And that someone might as well be me.
Giuliani: Pro-growth tax-cutter
Rudy Giuliani has proven, both during his tenure as mayor of New York and through his subsequent rhetoric, that he is a pro-growth Republican in the mold of Ronald Reagan, Jack Kemp, and Newt Gingrich. As mayor, Giuliani cut city taxes by more than eight billion dollars, reducing the tax burden on New Yorkers by 22%. Giuliani’s low-tax views remain intact. As Race42008 correspondent Kavon noted yesterday, Rudy’s recent visit to Minnesota included an emphasis on achieving economic growth via low taxes and less regulation on the economy. Rockefeller he ain’t; Rudy’s a Reagan Republican.
Rudy: Gingrich-style government reformer
Conservatives who liked Newt’s welfare reform and GWB’s attempt at entitlement reform have an ally in Rudy. As mayor, Giuliani reformed welfare in New York with the same tenacity as the class of ‘94 in Congress. Once again, this ain’t Christie Whitman we’re dealing with; Rudy’s a Newt Republican who also made a serious attempt to take on the teachers’ unions in NYC and fund school choice via charter schools. A President Giuliani means a conservative reformer who will fight for market-based revisions to our age-old bureaucratic messes in Washington.
Rudy Giuliani: Fiscal conservative
As mayor, Rudy Giuliani cut...
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Rudy had Yasser Arafat dragged out of a posh U.N. Lincoln Center gala by two beat cops, to the harsh protest of the Clinton Admin. Rudy also ripped up a $10 million Saudi check after the donor criticized U.S. foreign policy.
Giuliani already starts with a huge advantage over the current President in this voter's mind. I want a leader who understands and has contempt for Arabs, and doesn't have sickening familial ties with them
I have been all over the country, in the army (Ft. Benning, Ft. Lewis, Ft. Campbell, Ft. Ord, Ft. Hunter-Ligget) and have visited New York several times... hey, I am not interested in going back...
A city with a big hole in the middle of it, which, if we had the cooperation of big city mayors to enforce our immigration laws... YOU GET THE PICTURE...
Illegal immigration??? THAT DOG DON'T HUNT!
"It would appear to me that it would be irresponsible for you to have a gun. Thank you for choosing not to have one."
I own four. I just don't see the point of owning one for the sake of owning one, for ornamental value or to whisper sweet nothing's to on them lonely winter nights, is somehow a valid argument against gun control.
Ummm, you missed the part where the man said he should be able to do anything he wants, despite the law, if he feels like it.
The hypothetical I set up for him was a practical demonstration of just how stupid that premise was. That is he could arbitarily abrogate the law if he feels like it and expects to get away with it, why shouldn't someone with more sinister intent be able to do the same? What's good for the goose is good for the gander.
Somehow, he feels that he's justified in this belief (that he's the final arbitor of what is and isn't legal), but that such distinction should only be reserved for him (predicated on the justification "because I want to"), and by extention, anyone he wishes to grace with a similar power.
As for the hoplophobe comment, that hardly merits a response.
In it's literal translation, it means "fear of the shield" (from hoplos, the shield carried by a Greek soldier, i.e. Hoplite"). However, I get the impression that what it's being construed to mean, is one who fears a soldier, or more accurately, the implement of military force (i.e. a weapon).
Funny, but I don't remember any fear of weapons when I served in the Naval reserve (as an aviation ordnanceman, no less!), nor do I remember fearing the three generations of Wombats who were all Marines before me. In that regard, what do I have to fear from a man who owns a firearm (solely to prove an obscure point!) and who insists he will not use it? Is he trying to imply that, somehow, while in possession of that firearm he has no intention of using that he's the defender of my rights?
Laughable.
I don't believe you.
But left him to roam freely at large in the city...
No day care with milk and cookies?
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I want a leader who understands and has contempt for Arabs,
I don't want a racist. I want someone who will destroy the Islamic religion, see it for what it is and deal with the leftist Jackals in the media... Rumsfeld is the best guy to do that...
Arabs are not a "race".
Arabs are an ethnicity... and like I said... I don't want a racist...
I also want someone who has Judaic and Christian sympathies and contempt for the Islamic religion...
Giuliani is by no means Christian friendly at all...
I like Newt too. But dont know much about his stance on Iraq and the War On Islamofascists.
Hoping he's not a Buchannon on those 2 issues. We cant afford a PC president on this war and we need someone who will deal with the border issue and the illegals already here.
I could be wrong, but I thought I heard that one of Newt's weaknesses is his stance on illegals (not that Giuliani is any different on the issue). I want to know more about Newt's foreign policy stances and borders.
I do like what I've heard from Newt.
Maybe a Newt/Giuliani ticket?
Didn't he try to ban the poop on the virgin mary art exihibition at a museum in NYC?
I think he lost that battle. Where were the Christians at that time? Playing politics? I dont remember seeing them stand behind Rudy. Maybe it's the other way around and Christians have not been friendly to Giuliani and his qwest to keep the dung off Mary???
The symbolic has nothing to do with the ISSUES...
The symbolic has nothing to do with the ISSUES...
It is just like Rush says... SYMBOLISM OVER SUBSTANCE...
You don't know who Donald Rumsfeld is? There is a man infinitely more qualified to WIN a war...
Point taken, but Rumsfeld isn't running in 2008.
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