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I hate to think what would be going through my head if I got abducted, but I feel that if I converted under duress, I would be betraying my faith if not to God, then at least to the west.
1 posted on 09/02/2006 12:28:51 PM PDT by cusack7080
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Open question to the forum: we have been discussing whether a forced conversion is "valid" in both Islam and Judeo-Christianity. My question is, if one refuses to convert and dies a martyr, is there any "special" dispensation? Let's say one is a sinner and has not been to confession for a long time previous . . . .


2 posted on 09/02/2006 12:31:37 PM PDT by 1rudeboy
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Have the newsman & cameraman RENOUNCED the islamic lies yet?


3 posted on 09/02/2006 12:31:56 PM PDT by TimesDomain (When a judge declares himself "MASTER", you become his "SLAVE")
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God knows the number of every sparrow, and the number of hairs on your head. I believe he knows your heart as well. While the pain of uttering a forced conversion would weigh heavily on my soul, I also believe God would want me to live to fight another day, with the hope of being released in order to fight again.


4 posted on 09/02/2006 12:32:36 PM PDT by SoldierDad (Proud Father of an American Soldier)
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Not being a religious person, I'd probably say anything I had to to survive. I certainly wouldn't condemn them for the same, but it baffles me why anyone should think a "tasteful silence" is an appropriate response to such a barbarity on the part of their captors.


5 posted on 09/02/2006 12:33:59 PM PDT by prion (Yes, as a matter of fact, I AM the spelling police)
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It's time to make immigrants and visa-applicants sign a form disavowing the objectionable parts of Islam before entering the country or becoming citizens.


6 posted on 09/02/2006 12:34:09 PM PDT by Tax Government (Defeat Islamic imperialists)
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"I hate to think what would be going through my head if I got abducted, but I feel that if I converted under duress, I would be betraying my faith if not to God, then at least to the west."

What?


7 posted on 09/02/2006 12:34:18 PM PDT by observer5 (It's not a War on Terror - it's a WAR ON STUPIDITY)
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They did what they had to do to stay alive. Refusing a forced conversion because of those sick pukes wouldnt have done them any good.
I'm just glad they were released with their heads attached to their bodies.

MM


8 posted on 09/02/2006 12:34:57 PM PDT by motormouth (Whatever you are, be a good one.)
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"They did so."

No, they didn't.


9 posted on 09/02/2006 12:35:07 PM PDT by Larry Lucido ("There's no problem so big that government intervention can't make it worse.")
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I have given this much thought.
We all can talk tough in the safty of our home, but how would we really handle this?
I would like to tell them that I will show you how a Christian dies and try to die a honorable death in the knowlegde that I have served my God and Country well. I wouldnt cry or beg, because this would give those cowwards what they want.
DEATH TO ISLAM....ISLAM IS DEATH.....


18 posted on 09/02/2006 12:48:11 PM PDT by Yorlik803 ( When are we going to draw a line a say"this far and no farther")
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I don't believe their confession was valid in the eyes of God. He's a little smarter than that.


20 posted on 09/02/2006 1:03:14 PM PDT by gotribe (It's not a religion.)
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I'm wondering why these two are getting so much more sympathy and empathy than Jill Carroll did. She didn't even convert, but as I recall, many Freepers wished her dead or worse.


24 posted on 09/02/2006 1:10:36 PM PDT by whirleygirl (no longer Texasbound)
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"I hate to think what would be going through my head if I got abducted, but I feel that if I converted under duress, I would be betraying my faith if not to God, then at least to the west."

-I say save your life and lie to the Muslims, God will know your faith is with him. Islam is a false faith based on the sick and twisted life of deranged pedophile.


30 posted on 09/02/2006 2:12:52 PM PDT by WashingtonStateRepublican
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