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Army Recommends Death for Accused GIs
AP on Yahoo ^ | 9/2/06 | AP

Posted on 09/02/2006 11:42:57 AM PDT by NormsRevenge

PHOENIX - An Army investigator has recommended the death penalty for four soldiers accused of murder during a raid in Iraq.

Lt. Col. James P. Daniel Jr. made the recommendation in report obtained Saturday by The Associated Press.

Daniel found several aggravating factors that warrant a sentence of death in the case of four soldiers accused of killing three men during the May raid in the Salahuddin province.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; Government; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: accused; army; courtmartial; death; deathsentence; gis; recommends; salahuddin
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To: eclectic
WTF??? I heared nothing to give me an impression these men are guilty at all!

Why would you have? It's an ongioing case and all evidence has yet to be presented---especially to the public.

121 posted on 09/02/2006 2:29:50 PM PDT by Wormwood (Everybody lies, but it doesn't matter because nobody listens.)
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To: trumandogz

Touché!


122 posted on 09/02/2006 2:32:13 PM PDT by ducdriver ("Impartiality is a pompous name for indifference, which is an elegant name for ignorance." GKC)
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To: freema

Hey sweetie, "Hutchins" is from Plymouth, Mass! I need some guidance cause I'm damn pretty p***ed off at this moment. I will try my best but I've been swimming upstream for three years with my liberal co-workers with no luck. I'll reach out to some local vet groups here in Quincy, Mass..I'll try! Thank you, Thank you, Thank you!


123 posted on 09/02/2006 2:32:19 PM PDT by jhw61
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To: NormsRevenge

"They told the stories at times they had personally raped, cut off ears, cut off heads, taped wires from portable telephones to human genitals and turned up the power, cut off limbs, blown up bodies, randomly shot at civilians, razed villages in fashion reminiscent of Genghis Khan......."

WE WERE INOCENT....

I will do what the Military should have done. I will wait for all the evidence to be brought in and for the trial results.


124 posted on 09/02/2006 2:41:32 PM PDT by Gator113
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To: freema
It's a classic military tactic, locate a target and fire for effect.

Or in other words throw as much at them as you can.

The left today would fry the commanders at Iwo Jima for not filing an environmental impact statement prior to the bombardment.

125 posted on 09/02/2006 2:42:46 PM PDT by usmcobra (Beware of Southerners that start rattling of their National Origins, The correct answer is American!)
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To: NormsRevenge

More"Fodder"for our enemies!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


126 posted on 09/02/2006 2:55:09 PM PDT by bandleader
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To: Gay State Conservative

RIGHT ON!A GREAT movie that begins to delve into"The Fog of War"!!!!!!!!!


127 posted on 09/02/2006 2:56:30 PM PDT by bandleader
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To: NormsRevenge

When is that spineless president of ours going to stop this nonsense?


128 posted on 09/02/2006 3:00:00 PM PDT by Orbiting_Rosie's_Head (Yahoo!)
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To: NormsRevenge
Of course this NON-STORY is headline news from the MSM Daily DEAD FAILURE REPORT where soldiers only have news value when they DIE or "SCREW UP".

There is ZERO finality to this story based on a nitwit Lindsey Graham-type recommendation.

All this story does is make terrorists and liberal very happy.
129 posted on 09/02/2006 3:10:31 PM PDT by new yorker 77 (FAKE POLLS DO NOT TRANSLATE INTO REAL VOTERS!)
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To: jrooney

I am always a little leary of officers not in Infantry who sit in judgement on soldiers who are in Infantry.

The good news is the Jury will probably consist of infantry types who have served in Iraq.


130 posted on 09/02/2006 3:15:27 PM PDT by donmeaker (If the sky don't say "Surrender Dorothy!" then my ex wife is out of town.)
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To: All

this article is also on the net titled..

Death penalty recommended for U.S. soldiers in Iraq raid


131 posted on 09/02/2006 3:45:50 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ......Help the "Pendleton 8' and families -- http://www.freerepublic.com/~normsrevenge/)
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To: jhw61

: )


132 posted on 09/02/2006 3:47:07 PM PDT by freema (Marine FRiend, 1stCuz2xRemoved, Mom, Aunt, Sister, Friend, Wife, Daughter, Niece)
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To: usmcobra

It's a shame America is their target...their 'enemy'. I say try the sumbitches for treason.


133 posted on 09/02/2006 3:52:05 PM PDT by freema (Marine FRiend, 1stCuz2xRemoved, Mom, Aunt, Sister, Friend, Wife, Daughter, Niece)
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To: NormsRevenge; Enterprise

Memo to bleeding hearts: "Those who abjure* violence can only do so because others are committing violence on their behalf" George Orwell, 'Notes on Nationalism' (1945).

*abjure: 3. to avoid or shun (Random House)


134 posted on 09/02/2006 4:33:29 PM PDT by MelonFarmerJ (Proudly voting Republican/conservative in every election since 1964)
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To: jrooney

I'm with you on this! What the hell is an army investigator doing recommending the death penalty in an ongoing case? Investigators gather facts and present them to the Court-Martial Convening Authority, in this case a General Officer, I'm sure. Next there should be an Artcle 34 Hearing to determine if the charges are valid and if so, the accused soldiers should be bound over for trial. If found guilty of the charges, the military judge will make determination in the penalty phase of the trial and based on the Articles of the UCMJ, whether the guilty soldiers' infractions warrant the death penalty. Any military lawyers out there? This is crazy!


135 posted on 09/02/2006 5:36:13 PM PDT by Joe Marine 76 (Peace Through Superior Firepower and Maneuver!)
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To: Gay State Conservative
If what they did was *truly* murder and not just something that happens in the fog of war,then the death penalty is appropriate,IMO.

It's not only appropriate if it was murder, but you talk about another way to demonstrate the difference between us and Saddam. Saddam rewarded his troops for murdering innocent people - we punish our's.
136 posted on 09/02/2006 5:44:01 PM PDT by af_vet_rr
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To: af_vet_rr
Saddam rewarded his troops for murdering innocent people - we punish our's.

Precisely.

We like to think we are better than our enemies. Well, talk is cheap.

137 posted on 09/02/2006 5:46:42 PM PDT by Wormwood (Everybody lies, but it doesn't matter because nobody listens.)
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To: NormsRevenge; All

more detailed report for the freepers

PHOENIX (Sept. 2) - An Army investigator has recommended that four soldiers accused of murder in an Iraqi raid face the death penalty.

Lt. Col. James P. Daniel Jr. made the recommendation in report obtained Saturday by The Associated Press.

Daniel found several aggravating factors that warrant a sentence of death in the case of four soldiers accused of killing three men during a May raid in Iraq.

Staff Sgt. Raymond L. Girouard, Spc. William B. Hunsaker, Pfc. Corey R. Clagett, and Spc. Juston R. Graber, all of the Fort Campbell, Ky.-based 3rd Battalion, 187th Infantry Regiment, 101st Airborne Division, were accused in the deaths.

The soldiers have claimed they were ordered to "kill all military age males" during a raid on an island on a canal in the northern Salahuddin province. According to statements from some of the soldiers, they were told the target was an al-Qaida training camp and that every military-age male should be killed.

Hunsaker told investigators that he and Clagett were attacked by the three men and shot them in self-defense. Clagett said he was hit in the face and Hunsaker claimed he was stabbed during the attack.

"I had felt this action necessary for they had tried to use deadly force on me and my comrade," Hunsaker wrote in a statement about the shooting.

Prosecutors, however, argued that the soldiers conspired to kill the men and then altered the scene to fit their story. They contend Girouard stabbed Hunsaker as part of the killing plot.

Clagett, Girouard and Hunsaker also are accused of threatening to kill another soldier who was a witness to the killings.

Girouard, the most senior soldier charged, faces several additional charges including sexual harassment and carrying a personal weapon on duty.

In the 10-page report dated Thursday, Daniel also recommends that Graber not face charges of conspiracy to commit murder.

"I believe Spc. Graber...did not enter an agreement but followed an order whether he agreed or not," Daniel wrote in his recommendation. "There is a difference between obedience and agreement."

Paul Bergrin, Clagett's civilian attorney, said he was surprised that Daniel recommended the case be taken to trial at all.

"I'm extremely disappointed and disheartened," Bergrin said Saturday. "They are being used as pawns in the War on Terror. They followed the rules of engagement. They were confronted with violence by a known al-Qaida training camp member."

Other lawyers in the case, several of whom are deployed to Iraq, did not immediately respond to e-mail requests for comment.

The case will now be forwarded to Army officials who will decide if Daniel's recommendation should be followed. The U.S. military has not executed a soldier since the 1960 hanging of a soldier convicted rape and attempted murder.

The soldiers are expected to be tried at Fort Campbell. They have been jailed in Kuwait since their arrests earlier this year.


138 posted on 09/02/2006 7:00:50 PM PDT by freepatriot32 (Holding you head high & voting Libertarian is better then holding your nose and voting republican)
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To: freema

Thanks for the ping freema. I simply cannot stomach reading another thread with posters like this tonight. Thanks for the link.


139 posted on 09/02/2006 7:02:13 PM PDT by Just A Nobody (NEVER AGAIN..Support our Troops! www.irey.com and www.vets4Irey.com - Now more than Ever!)
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To: Gay State Conservative

No $hit!!!


140 posted on 09/02/2006 9:35:06 PM PDT by Atchafalaya (When you are there thats the best)
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