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Alleged confessions may be central to murder case against Marines - Pendleton 8
AP on Bakersfield Californian ^ | 8/31/06 | Thomas Watkins - ap

Posted on 08/31/2006 10:59:38 AM PDT by NormsRevenge

Alleged confessions appear to form the crux of the government's case against seven Marines and a Navy corpsman charged with murder, kidnapping and other crimes in an Iraqi man's slaying last April.

Defense attorneys challenge the validity of the statements and say without them the government's case is baseless.

Details about the prosecution's case emerged Wednesday during preliminary hearings for two of eight men accused in the shooting death of 52-year-old Hashim Ibrahim Awad in the village of Hamdania.

At Marine Cpl. Marshall L. Magincalda's hearing, prosecutors submitted a thick packet of evidence and pointed to three documents they say show enough probable cause for his charges to be recommended for court martial.

Prosecutor Capt. Nicholas L. Gannon claimed the evidence included a confession by squad leader Sgt. Lawrence G. Hutchins and a confessional video by Cpl. Trent D. Thomas.

What exactly they allegedly confessed to was unclear; prosecutors did not elaborate.

"Those three pieces of evidence should satisfy the investigation in its current form," Gannon said.

Magincalda's attorney Joseph Low said he would contest the statements. Other defense lawyers have previously said they will try to suppress any alleged confessions if the case goes to trial. They contend investigators used heavy-handed and coercive techniques to obtain them.

The so-called Article 32 hearings convened for Magincalda, 23, and Marine Pfc. John J. Jodka III, 20, are similar to civilian preliminary or grand jury hearings. Under military code, the hearings determine whether the defendants face courts martial.

According to prosecutors, the Marines and sailor kidnapped Awad on April 26, bound his feet, dragged him from his home and shot him to death in a roadside hole. All have been held in the Camp Pendleton brig since May.

At Jodka's hearing, the defense argued vehemently to keep secret "inflammatory" statements made by the private and other Marines, saying they would prejudice any potential jurors in the event of a trial.

Joseph Casas, an attorney for Jodka, said the statements were the only evidence the government had.

"Take the statements out of the picture and I submit to you the government has nothing," Casas said.

In a surprise announcement during Jodka's hearing, prosecutors said they would not seek the death penalty in his case.

It was unclear how their position on the death penalty in Jodka's case would affect other defendants.

Laurie Levenson, a law school professor at Loyola University, said the prosecution's decision not to seek capital punishment was an unusual move possibly aimed at reducing public scrutiny of their case.

"This builds the credibility of the prosecutor," Levenson said. "They will still need to meet their burden (of proof), but I don't think their burden will be as high."

The military has not executed anyone since 1961, when a soldier was hanged for rape and attempted murder, she said.

Gary D. Solis, a former Marine Corps prosecutor and judge advocate who teaches law of war at Georgetown University Law Center, called the move "very weird" and possibly a "tactical error" by the prosecutor.

"The prosecution has nothing to do with it," Solis said of capital referrals.

The other defendants, all members of the Camp Pendleton-based 3rd Battalion, 5th Marine Regiment, are expected to have separate hearings in coming weeks. The charges include kidnapping, murder and conspiracy.

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Associated Press Special Correspondent Linda Deutsch contributed to this report.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Foreign Affairs; Government; US: California; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: alleged; california; camppendleton; confessions; hamdania; hamdaniya; marines; maybecentral; murdercase; pendleton8

1 posted on 08/31/2006 10:59:39 AM PDT by NormsRevenge
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2 posted on 08/31/2006 11:01:57 AM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ......Help the "Pendleton 8' and families -- http://www.freerepublic.com/~normsrevenge/)
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To: NormsRevenge

"They will still need to meet their burden (of proof), but I don't think their burden will be as high.""

It better be as high, that's the law.


3 posted on 08/31/2006 11:09:54 AM PDT by Prokopton
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To: freema; RaceBannon

fyi


4 posted on 08/31/2006 11:20:10 AM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ......Help the "Pendleton 8' and families -- http://www.freerepublic.com/~normsrevenge/)
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To: NormsRevenge; JulieRNR21

let's just say, this doesn't pass the smell test...


5 posted on 08/31/2006 12:25:13 PM PDT by RaceBannon (Innocent until proven guilty: The Pendleton 8)
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To: NormsRevenge; 2111USMC; 2nd Bn, 11th Mar; 68 grunt; A.A. Cunningham; ASOC; AirForceBrat23; Ajnin; ..
I'd spent my youth absorbed with distant dreams. When I'm older...When I'm a Marine...It was a distraction that allowed me to not focus on my reality, to bypass my here and now.

Those days were over. In the crucible of Parris Island, I leaned the things I always knew, but had not connected: There is no "deep" fight, no big picture, if you don't survivie the "close" fight first. My inattention to the smallest detail could get me- or worse, one of my buddies-killed. It was fine to dream, when there was time, but now it was time to perform.

WARLORD NO BETTER FRIEND NO WORSE ENEMY - page 32 -Ilario Pantano

6 posted on 09/01/2006 8:09:01 AM PDT by freema (Marine FRiend, 1stCuz2xRemoved, Mom, Aunt, Sister, Friend, Wife, Daughter, Niece)
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To: freema; RaceBannon; RockingChairVet; Little Bill; betty boop; Lonesome in Massachussets; ...

"Gary D. Solis, a former Marine Corps prosecutor and judge advocate who teaches law of war at Georgetown University Law Center, called the move "very weird" and possibly a "tactical error" by the prosecutor."



These seven Marines and Navy man deserve our support.

I urge every Freeper to please send a contribution to their Defense Fund and then proudly wear their tee shirt:

THE PENDLETON 8: INNOCENT UNTIL PROVEN GUILTY
Go here:

http://rescueattempt.tripod.com/id32.html


7 posted on 09/01/2006 9:55:15 AM PDT by JulieRNR21 (Freedom isn't Free.........Support Our Troops......Thank a Veteran Today)
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To: JulieRNR21

Thank you! And pardon my typos : (


8 posted on 09/01/2006 10:10:07 AM PDT by freema (Marine FRiend, 1stCuz2xRemoved, Mom, Aunt, Sister, Friend, Wife, Daughter, Niece)
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To: JulieRNR21
Thanks. For those not familiar with Gary Solis, a vietnam vet, he's also the author of Son Thang: An American War Crime. I don't necessarily agree with his conclusion that it was a war crime, but it's a well written book about a very similar incident which relied largely on questionable confessions and testimony which later changed. The other side told in Blue's Bastards: A True Story of Valor Under Fire by Randy Herrod, one of the 2 acquitted defendents. Unfortunately not particularly well written. But interesting, and goes into more detail about Ollie (Blue) North's involvement which was admirable.
9 posted on 09/01/2006 10:38:04 AM PDT by SJackson (The Pilgrims—Doing the jobs Native Americans wouldn't do!)
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To: JulieRNR21

Thanks for the ping!


10 posted on 09/01/2006 11:03:20 AM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: NormsRevenge

This is starting to sound like the Plame/Wilson BS, which the Compost has confirmed it was a lie started by Joe Wilson.

If these Jag Lawyers are Pink Panty/Perfumed JagOff Princes left over from the Clintoons, and they bsed these charges. They should be tried for sedition and sent to Gitmo with no parole until the WOT is over.


11 posted on 09/01/2006 11:44:29 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (There's a dwindling market for Marxist Homosexual Lunatic lies/wet dreams posing as news.)
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To: SJackson

Thanks for the information on those books.


12 posted on 09/01/2006 12:45:52 PM PDT by JulieRNR21 (Freedom isn't Free.........Support Our Troops......Thank a Veteran Today)
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To: RaceBannon; freema
"let's just say, this doesn't pass the smell test..."
Yea. Similiar feeling about the whole frigen deal.
13 posted on 09/01/2006 7:00:06 PM PDT by Marine_Uncle (Honor must be earned)
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To: NormsRevenge

bttt


14 posted on 09/01/2006 7:03:01 PM PDT by Guenevere
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To: NormsRevenge; JulieRNR21; Grampa Dave; potlatch; devolve; ntnychik; Smartass
"alleged confessions"?

Why does this administration continue to allow our fighting men to be attacked while ceding every right, privilege and exception to our enemy?

President Bush, cease friendly fire; direct your fires to the front.

Damn the "new tone"; full speed ahead.

15 posted on 09/01/2006 8:15:34 PM PDT by PhilDragoo (Hitlery: das Butch von Buchenvald)
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To: PhilDragoo; potlatch; ntnychik; MeekOneGOP; dixiechick2000; Grampa Dave; Interesting Times; ...



16 posted on 09/01/2006 9:11:02 PM PDT by devolve (fx 9125_AMERICANS_KILLED_2003_BY_ILLEGALS MEX_ILLEGAL_GOT_911_TERRORISTS_ID NO_NUEVO_TEJAS)
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To: NormsRevenge
The Marines and a Navy corpsman are being used as fall guys by the government and it is beyond wrong!


17 posted on 09/01/2006 9:14:46 PM PDT by M. Espinola (Freedom is not free)
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To: devolve

Wow, this has evolved into a good flowing and excellent summary of the rats and Islamofacists in our world, now.


18 posted on 09/02/2006 8:29:39 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (There's a dwindling market for Marxist Homosexual Lunatic lies/wet dreams posing as news.)
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To: NormsRevenge
I hope these guys are truly innocent, not simply " not proved guilty ".

Soldiers or not, if they have done what it is alleged, I for one don't want them back in society.
19 posted on 09/02/2006 1:03:48 PM PDT by RS ("I took the drugs because I liked them and I found excuses to take them, so I'm not weaseling.")
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To: M. Espinola

"are being used as fall guys by the government "

Please explain ... fall guys for what ?
Just what do you think is going on that these guys are taking the heat off of ?


20 posted on 09/02/2006 4:03:13 PM PDT by RS ("I took the drugs because I liked them and I found excuses to take them, so I'm not weaseling.")
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