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Republicans target 'Islamic fascism'
yahoo! ^ | Aug 30, 2006 | TOM RAUM

Posted on 08/30/2006 9:20:01 AM PDT by stainlessbanner

WASHINGTON - President Bush in recent days has recast the global war on terror into a "war against Islamic fascism." Fascism, in fact, seems to be the new buzz word for Republicans in an election season dominated by an unpopular war in Iraq.

Bush used the term earlier this month in talking about the arrest of suspected terrorists in Britain, and spoke of "Islamic fascists" in a later speech in Green Bay, Wis. Spokesman Tony Snow has used variations on the phrase at White House press briefings.

Sen. Rick Santorum (news, bio, voting record), R-Pa., in a tough re-election fight, drew parallels on Monday between World War II and the current war against "Islamic fascism," saying they both require fighting a common foe in multiple countries. It's a phrase Santorum has been using for months.

And Defense Secretary Donald H. Rumsfeld on Tuesday took it a step further in a speech to an American Legion convention in Salt Lake City, accusing critics of the administration's Iraq and anti-terrorism policies of trying to appease "a new type of fascism."

White House aides and outside Republican strategists said the new description is an attempt to more clearly identify the ideology that motivates many organized terrorist groups, representing a shift in emphasis from the general to the specific.

"I think it's an appropriate definition of the war that we're in," said GOP pollster Ed Goeas. "I think it's effective in that it definitively defines the enemy in a way that we can't because they're not in uniforms."

But Muslim groups have cried foul. Bush's use of the phrase "contributes to a rising level of hostility to Islam and the American-Muslim community," complained Parvez Ahmed, chairman of the Council on American-Islamic Relations.

Conservative commentators have long talked about "Islamo-fascism," and Bush's phrase was a slightly toned-down variation on that theme.

Dennis Ross, a Mideast adviser to both the first Bush and Clinton administrations and now the director of the Washington Institute for Near East Policy, said he would have chosen different words.

"The `war on terror' has always been a misnomer, because terrorism is an instrument, it's not an ideology. So I would always have preferred it to be called the `war with radical Islam,' not with Islam but with `radical Islam,'" Ross said.

Why even mention the religion? "Because that's who they are," Ross said. "Fascism had a certain definition. Whether they meet this or not, one thing is clear: They're radical. They represent a completely radical and intolerant interpretation of Islam."

While "fascism" once referred to the rigid nationalistic one-party dictatorship first instituted in Italy, it has "been used very loosely in all kinds of ways for a long time," said Wayne Fields, a specialist in presidential rhetoric at Washington University in St. Louis.

"Typically, the Bush administration finds its vocabulary someplace in the middle ground of popular culture. It seems to me that they're trying to find something that resonates, without any effort to really define what they mean," Fields said.

Pollster Andrew Kohut, director of the Pew Research Center, said the "fascist" label may evoke comparisons to World War II and remind Americans of the lack of personal freedoms in fundamentalist countries. "But this could only affect public opinion on the margins," he said.

"Having called these people `evildoers,' fascism is just a new wrinkle," he said.

The tactic recalled the first President Bush's 1990 likening of Iraq's Saddam Hussein to Adolf Hitler.

"I caught hell on this comparison of Saddam to Hitler, with critics accusing me of personalizing the crisis, but I still feel it was an appropriate one," the elder Bush later wrote in a memoir.

It was one of the few times the younger Bush has followed his father's path on Iraq.

Charles Black, a longtime GOP consultant with close ties to both the first Bush administration and the current White House, said branding Islamic extremists as fascists is apt.

"It helps dramatize what we're up against. They are not just some ragtag terrorists. They are people with a plan to take over the world and eliminate everybody except them," Black said.

Stephen J. Wayne, a professor of government at Georgetown University, suggested White House strategists "probably had a focus group and they found the word `fascist.'

"Most people are against fascists of whatever form. By definition, fascists are bad. If you're going to demonize, you might as well use the toughest words you can," Wayne said.

After all, the hard-line Iranian newspaper Jomhuri Eskami did just that in an editorial last week blasting Bush's "Islamic fascism" phrase. It called Bush a "21st century Hitler" and British Prime Minister Tony Blair a "21st century Mussolini."


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1 posted on 08/30/2006 9:20:03 AM PDT by stainlessbanner
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To: stainlessbanner

Fascism is too genteel of a word. Nazi suits them better.


2 posted on 08/30/2006 9:23:34 AM PDT by Nachum
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To: stainlessbanner

If they ever wrote articles on what the democrat talking points are and how many of them use "the word of the day", it would fill that ragsheet NY Times.


3 posted on 08/30/2006 9:31:28 AM PDT by b4its2late (There are 3 kinds of people: those who can count & those who can't.)
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To: Nachum
Fascism is too genteel of a word. Nazi suits them better.

I trust you speak of the MSM?

4 posted on 08/30/2006 9:36:55 AM PDT by Puppage (You may disagree with what I have to say, but I shall defend to your death my right to say it)
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To: stainlessbanner; oldglory; MinuteGal; mcmuffin; gonzo

If you go back through Bush's comments a year or more ago, you will see that he specifically said that they had made a mistake by calling this a "war on TERROR" because in reality it is more a war against fanatics whose religious beliefs impel them to kill themselves and others who don't believe the way they do-- or words to that effect.

In other words, a war against Islamofascists.


5 posted on 08/30/2006 9:41:15 AM PDT by Matchett-PI ( Ignorance is correctable with education, but stupid is forever.)
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To: Nachum

sand nazi


6 posted on 08/30/2006 10:13:55 AM PDT by minus_273
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To: Puppage

The MSM? They would fall under the title: "Useful Idiots".


7 posted on 08/30/2006 10:24:17 AM PDT by Nachum
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To: stainlessbanner
Fascism, in fact, seems to be the new buzz word for Republicans in an election season dominated by an unpopular war in Iraq.

As buzz words go, I much prefer it to "gravitas."

8 posted on 08/30/2006 10:57:51 AM PDT by Maceman (This is America. Why must we press "1" for English?)
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To: stainlessbanner

I think they're finally using the correct term, but can't help but observe that they probably took their cue from talk radio and the conservative "blogs."


9 posted on 08/30/2006 1:34:34 PM PDT by rightwingintelligentsia (Democrats, Euroweenies, and the MSM--the Axis of Appeasement)
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To: stainlessbanner; Victoria Delsoul
President Bush in recent days has recast the global war on terror into a "war against Islamic fascism." Fascism, in fact, seems to be the new buzz word for Republicans in an election season dominated by an unpopular war in Iraq.

He hasn't used it since that rare lucid flash a couple of weeks ago. Just a few days after Dubya called the terrorists 'Islamic Fascists,' he referred to the same bad guys as 'an extremist....group of folks.'

Damn inspiring.

10 posted on 08/30/2006 1:36:31 PM PDT by HitmanLV ("If at first you don't succeed, keep on sucking until you do succeed." - Jerry 'Curly' Howard)
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To: stainlessbanner
The enemy within, Tom Raum.

While "fascism" once referred to the rigid nationalistic one-party dictatorship first instituted in Italy, it has "been used very loosely in all kinds of ways for a long time," said Wayne Fields, a specialist in presidential rhetoric at Washington University in St. Louis.

"Typically, the Bush administration finds its vocabulary someplace in the middle ground of popular culture. It seems to me that they're trying to find something that resonates, without any effort to really define what they mean," Fields said.


"Islam isn't in America to be equal to any other faith, but to become dominant. The Qur'an should be the highest authority in America, and Islam the only accepted religion on earth"

--Omar Ahmed, Chairman of the Board of CAIR (Council of American Islamic Relations), San Ramon Valley Herald, July 1998

11 posted on 08/30/2006 1:43:57 PM PDT by Vision (God did not give us a spirit of timidity, but a spirit of power, love and self-discipline 2Timothy1)
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To: stainlessbanner

Good. Way more accurate than "terror".

I've actually heard liberals say "McVeigh was a terrorist" when confronted with the term "War on Terror".


12 posted on 08/30/2006 1:45:19 PM PDT by GatorGirl
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And we have to use this term to effect in the media. The liberal extremists have long made it difficult to debate issues surrounding muslim assimilation and multi-culturalism.
We need to use this type of description to wake people to the danger.
13 posted on 08/30/2006 2:41:22 PM PDT by Indomitable_Briton
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To: stainlessbanner

The correct term is "Islamic Fundamentalism" -- the problem is with believers who fail to adopt a civilized modernistic interpretation.


14 posted on 08/30/2006 2:42:58 PM PDT by steve-b ("Creation Science" is to the religous right what "Global Warming" is to the socialist left.)
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To: HitmanLV
he referred to the same bad guys as 'an extremist....group of folks.'

Damn inspiring.

I'm still laughing... so funny.

15 posted on 08/30/2006 7:57:49 PM PDT by Victoria Delsoul
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To: Victoria Delsoul

His pause where he had to collect his thoughts was particularly stirring. :-)


16 posted on 08/30/2006 7:59:13 PM PDT by HitmanLV ("If at first you don't succeed, keep on sucking until you do succeed." - Jerry 'Curly' Howard)
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To: HitmanLV

LOL!


17 posted on 08/30/2006 8:04:03 PM PDT by Victoria Delsoul
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To: Victoria Delsoul

I got misty eyed!


18 posted on 08/30/2006 8:06:24 PM PDT by HitmanLV ("If at first you don't succeed, keep on sucking until you do succeed." - Jerry 'Curly' Howard)
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To: HitmanLV

Did ya? Hmmm, yeah right.


19 posted on 08/30/2006 8:06:58 PM PDT by Victoria Delsoul
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To: stainlessbanner

All we have to do is compromise with the Muslims. After all they are peace-loving just like us. All we have to do is give in on a few points and we would have peace. NO BIG DEAL !
First, since muslims believe homosexuality is a crime, all we have to do is agree with them and make homosexuality a crime, punishable by death. NO BIG DEAL,right? Secondly, muslims believe and insist that women are third class citizens, who should be subjugated and treated as chattel. So we just do as they say, don't let women vote anymore, don't let them go to school, kill them if they are not virgins before marriage, promote female clitoral castration to reduce the sex drive, and deny them divorce and property rights. Its what Allah commands. NO BIG DEAL, RIGHT?. Thirdly, let them annihilate the jews. Its only a tiny country anyways, and then we would have peace. ITS NO BIG DEAL, Right????? So all you Jews, Gays and Females, think about it. Its your reward, and its NO BIG DEAL !!!!!


20 posted on 08/31/2006 11:59:16 AM PDT by LC HOGHEAD
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