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Fox News and Forced Conversions (Robert Spencer Alert)
Front Page Magazine ^ | 30 August 2006 | Robert Spencer

Posted on 08/30/2006 5:10:36 AM PDT by unionblue83

The most bizarre element of the two weeks of captivity suffered by Fox News reporter Steve Centanni and photographer Olaf Wiig at the hands of Gaza’s Holy Jihad Brigade was the video that surfaced depicting their conversion to Islam. Even before the journalists revealed that their conversions had been coerced, there were disturbing indications that they were not acting freely. While reading a statement he himself had ostensibly written, Centanni stumbled over words, appeared to puzzle over the handwriting, and seemed to grimace after pronouncing the words “peace be upon him” after the name of the Islamic prophet Muhammad.

Their messages as new converts to Islam were predictable denunciations of the United States and Israel, combined with emphasis on Islam’s universal call as the solution to the world’s problems. But most jarring was the video editor’s invocation of the favorite Qur’an verse of Western analysts of Islam and terrorism, “There is no compulsion in religion” (2:256). The irony of featuring this verse in a video depicting two forced conversions has been widely noted. In fact, however, the juxtaposition of this verse with the video of Centanni and Wiig was probably not simply transparent deception, as strange as that may seem, and has far-reaching implications.

(Excerpt) Read more at frontpagemag.com ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: centanni; foxnews; islam; middleeast; olaf; robertspencer; steve; waronterror; wiig
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To: fox martyr son

"No condemnation concerning their eternal destiny; however their words are open for judgement."

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To my mind, judgment of the person and judgment of his/her words are the same thing.

But on that point, we disagree...and that's ok.


41 posted on 08/30/2006 8:07:00 AM PDT by fatnotlazy
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To: joylyn

I never said it wouldn't be difficult.
To the contrary it would be horrific.
True, we don't know the religious leaning of Centani.


42 posted on 08/30/2006 8:08:03 AM PDT by fox martyr son
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To: mountainfolk; Convert from ECUSA
My life is important to me and I would not be easily inclined to toss it away.. And I would have to believe that our lives are important to the Good Lord as well. Why else would the Father have given his only begotten Son for all of us if they weren't? This is a fundamental difference between the West and the mohammedans -- we value life and they don't. To them, being able to show this tape on al Jizz or whatever means more to them than the fact that they know this may or may not have been a true conversion is irrelevant.
43 posted on 08/30/2006 8:09:36 AM PDT by unionblue83 (Duty is ours; consequences are God's. -- Stonewall Jackson.)
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To: TomGuy
"His comments then were not under duress."

Was he still in Gaza?

I believe he was.

If you had seen the live interview last night with Centani and Olaf perhaps you'd think differently.

44 posted on 08/30/2006 8:13:17 AM PDT by A Citizen Reporter
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To: unionblue83

God sent his only Son to save us from the wrath of God to come and give us eternal life; not necessarily to give us or extend a longer life here on earth.


45 posted on 08/30/2006 8:14:13 AM PDT by fox martyr son
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To: fox martyr son

I can appreciate your sentiments and I also cannot say what any of us would do in such a situation. I know that I would not convert to Islam under any circumstances. I would hopefully see my family on the "other side" wherever the Good Lord decided to send me. Centanni now has to live with this for the rest of days and probably longer. I am not going to jump on board and consider his motivations for doing what he did.


46 posted on 08/30/2006 8:56:15 AM PDT by unionblue83 (Duty is ours; consequences are God's. -- Stonewall Jackson.)
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To: A Citizen Reporter
I didn't have power or satellite for most of last night and missed the interview. Can you give me a synopsis of what they said about the conversion/captivity?

Thanks
47 posted on 08/30/2006 8:59:26 AM PDT by Brytani (Keeper of the FR Loofah, Bath-cap and Rubber Duckie)
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To: unionblue83
Fox News Journalist Steve Centanni's Credibility is SHOT because of this:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/1692027/posts

48 posted on 08/30/2006 9:10:19 AM PDT by Jmouse007 (Convert, Slavery or Death = "Islam the Religion of Peace tm" "It's time to play Cowboys and Muslims")
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To: unionblue83
"This is a fundamental difference between the West and the mohammedans -- we value life and they don't. To them, being able to show this tape on al Jizz or whatever means more to them than the fact that they know this may or may not have been a true conversion is irrelevant."

Nailed it!
49 posted on 08/30/2006 9:22:20 AM PDT by Convert from ECUSA (Mid East Ceasefire = Israel ceases but her enemies fire)
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To: Jmouse007

Yeah! Hurray! Let's trash another kidnap victim! We did such a terrific job attacking that Christian Science Monitor reporter, no reason not to do again with these Fox News guys.

Hate and intolerance, that's our cry! V-I-C-T-O-R-Y!!!


50 posted on 08/30/2006 9:27:49 AM PDT by zook (McCain/Giuliani/Rice--2 of the 3 in 08!)
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To: toddlintown

"The morons and tough guys on this thread is amazing."

You got that right. Hate, intolerance, and sanctimony just drips from their lips.


51 posted on 08/30/2006 9:30:32 AM PDT by zook (McCain/Giuliani/Rice--2 of the 3 in 08!)
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To: randita

"If he hadn't "converted", would he have been murdered, like Christians who refused to bow to the Emperor were burned like torches or fed to lions?"

It's not at all like that. The Christians you mention had no choice. They were going to be killed anyway. They didn't have the option of going back to a life in which they could freely practice their faith.


52 posted on 08/30/2006 9:34:01 AM PDT by zook (McCain/Giuliani/Rice--2 of the 3 in 08!)
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To: TomGuy

Depends on where the comments were made. Plus, it takes a while ~ maybe several days ~ to get used to being "free". Many people have experience that phenomenon ~ e.g. as draftees being discharged after 2 years.


53 posted on 08/30/2006 9:42:44 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: Kieri

Do not tempt God.


54 posted on 08/30/2006 9:45:11 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: joylyn

I'm not really interested in people saying someone ELSE should have refused to convert. I want to see THEM do it.


55 posted on 08/30/2006 10:02:04 AM PDT by ichabod1 (Freedom of religion means freedom to practice IslamĀ®)
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To: unionblue83

BTTT


56 posted on 08/30/2006 10:09:43 AM PDT by Gritty (The question is not whether we can win. It is whether we have the will to persevere.-Donald Rumsfeld)
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To: Brytani
I couldn't do it justice. Here is a link to a transcript, or you can watch it from the Fox website.

Anyone who thinks that Centani was sympathetic to his captors, did not see the disgust and anger he exhibited as he described the ordeal last night.

57 posted on 08/30/2006 10:54:50 AM PDT by A Citizen Reporter
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To: Mr. K
Salmaan Rushdie has been in hiding for years. These guy have taken the mark. Once again Islam walks like a duck...
58 posted on 08/30/2006 11:12:15 AM PDT by auntyfemenist (Card carrying conservative, William F. Buckley fan.)
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To: joylyn

St. Peter didn't denounce Christ and then announce his allegiance to Satan. That is the difference.


59 posted on 08/30/2006 11:16:03 AM PDT by auntyfemenist (Card carrying conservative, William F. Buckley fan.)
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To: BadAndy

He wasn't lauding. From what I've read that others have written after having lived/visited over there, most of the the Palestinian people are indeed nice people who welcome "guests" into their homes, often strangers. It's a part of their culture. Unfortunately, these people have been abused for decades by other Arabs and their own leaders who want power (read Arafat and others) for its own sake. Just because Centanni has gotten to know the culture of a place he covers and happens to like the people, he is a coward? Far from it!


60 posted on 08/30/2006 12:31:37 PM PDT by twigs
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