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Obesity? This is a job for Supernanny(neo soviet barf alert)
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,2088-2330255,00.html ^ | 8 27 06 | Minette Marrin

Posted on 08/28/2006 11:20:06 AM PDT by freepatriot32

Fat is not a feminist issue, as Susie Orbach once claimed. Fat is a class issue. Rich, educated people are not fat; you see almost no children in private schools who are overweight. Fatness and obesity are directly related to lower education and lower incomes. What is sad is that at a time when this country is richer than ever and ought to have better schools than ever, we have far more fat people than ever — a dangerous explosion of flab. Last week the Department of Health issued a report grimly called Forecasting Obesity to 2010 and its findings were grotesque. Within four years, it predicts, a third of all adults — 13m people — will be obese. So will 1m children

Obese means not just podgy, but dangerously, disablingly, distastefully fat, as in American fat.

This is not just shocking; it has also happened shockingly fast. As the report says, a third of all men will be obese by 2010; in 1993 the figure was only — if one can say only of such a large figure — 13%, rising to 24% in 2004.

The same is true of women, although the rate is rising more slowly; 16% were obese in 1993, 24% in 2004, and the trend is expected to rise until 2010. The proportion of boys who were obese stood at 17% in 2003 and is predicted to rise to 19% by 2010, while among girls it is expected to increase more swiftly from 16% to 22%.

This presents an awkward challenge to libertarians. The libertarian assumption is that we should all be free to do what we want, as far as possible, and if some people’s lifestyle choices involve snacking on deep-fried Mars bars and triple-processed cheeseburgers, other people have no business interfering, still less the government.

Besides, there is the embarrassing fact that those who eat and drink junk do so for cheap comfort and because they are either too poor or too ignorant (or both) to prepare healthy food. It doesn’t come well from the consumers of steamed organic asparagus and free-range ducks’ breasts to criticise those who can manage only frozen reconstituted chicken nuggets and sugary baked beans.

However, obesity does not concern only the obese. It concerns all of us. Obese parents produce obese children, and obesity places a crippling burden on the National Health Service, quite apart from the many personal miseries involved. Currently 10% of NHS resources are spent on diabetes (two-thirds of which is the avoidable type 2 associated with obesity) and this could easily double within the next four years to 20%.

This is quite apart from the increased risk among the obese of heart disease and other serious illness. More young people are being diagnosed with type 2 diabetes, something previously seen only in people over 40. In these circumstances even the most swivel-eyed libertarian would probably agree, for once, that something must be done and even perhaps by the government.

Curiously enough, however, in one of the few areas where our ever-intrusive government might for once justifiably intrude, new Labour does almost nothing. Possibly as a result of the ferocious lobbying of the food industry, ministers restrict themselves to making repetitive noises about healthy living and “small changes” that won’t cost anybody anything.

Tony Blair said last month that if the food industry did not agree to limit junk food advertisements by 2007 he would bring in mandatory rules, but he has said that before and more than once. Besides, why not bring them in straight away? His government has persistently ignored the demands of the Commons health select committee for a traffic light system of food labelling, enabling shoppers to make informed choices.

England’s chief medical officer warned in this year’s annual report that public health budgets were being raided to deal with deficits. That is the reality behind government talk of raising public awareness.

I have never been convinced that government health education has any effect. Despite the “five-a-day” campaign, only a quarter of people in England eat vegetables every day. About half of overweight men are in denial; they don’t see themselves as overweight, according to the report.

There is nothing complicated about being thin. Being fat is usually the result of eating too much junk food and taking too little exercise. Being thin means eating much less food, avoiding junk food altogether and taking exercise every day. It may be that nothing can be done about the plague of obesity; there is a growing epidemic in Europe and worldwide. Perhaps affluence is a disease to which only the fortunate few are immune. But if anything could be done about it, it would have to be radical.

Nobody who craves cheap comfort food will willingly give it up. But if over-processed, over-refined food and junk food were to become expensive while healthy fresh food became cheap — the opposite of the case today — people would be forced to eat well. This could be done through taxes or subsidies. Alternatively, you could ration unhealthy food.

There could be a public campaign against fattening food, just as there was against smoking, aimed at making everyone ashamed of consuming anything naughty but nice. I am just as greedy as anyone else but I have come to think of cakes, biscuits, crisps, sweets, white bread and puddings as more or less toxic. Foods like this should have health warnings — “cake can kill”. They are not just unnecessary, empty calories; they interfere with your blood sugar levels, affect your appetite and your mood; they may even induce food addiction. The same applies to alcohol: more than a modest amount makes you fat, interferes with your mood and is often addictive.

Just as there would need to be financial incentives to eat well, there should also be inducements to take exercise. The cost should be subsidised or declarable against tax. Employers should be required to give workers time off to go to the gym or jog. We could imitate the Japanese and have mass group exercises at work every day.

And that is the problem. Obesity, one of the trials of affluence, can be solved only, if at all, by the kind of interventionism that has been discredited by the failure of socialism. Liberty is indivisible; it belongs to the ignorant and the low paid just as much as to anyone else. Perhaps obesity is one of the many prices of liberty. Fat is a freedom issue.


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To: wouldntbprudent

My favorite simpler-than-stink potato microwave recipe -

chunk potatoes (with skin) and place in bowl with olive oil
microwave on high 6-8 minutes for 8 potatoes
let sit 2 minutes, top with pats of butter and dill weed, serve


221 posted on 08/28/2006 6:26:07 PM PDT by cinives (On some planets what I do is considered normal.)
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To: Xenalyte

The British add bread and call it a ploughman's supper


222 posted on 08/28/2006 6:28:10 PM PDT by cinives (On some planets what I do is considered normal.)
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To: Gabz

can I have the recipe ? please, pretty please ? I love garlic.


223 posted on 08/28/2006 6:28:57 PM PDT by cinives (On some planets what I do is considered normal.)
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To: ArrogantBustard
No ... the essential foodgroups are coffee, beer, peanuts, and beef jerky.

You can keep the coffee and peanuts.

Beer and meat, thats REAL food.
224 posted on 08/28/2006 6:32:22 PM PDT by Dr.Zoidberg (Mohammedism - Bringing you only the best of the 6th century for fourteen hundred years.)
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To: cinives

I was afraid of the mealiness of freezing taters. Unfortunately I do not have the ability to have a root cellar.


225 posted on 08/28/2006 6:43:28 PM PDT by Gabz (Taxaholism, the disease you elect to have (TY xcamel))
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To: GeorgefromGeorgia
I think people are discouraged from walking and bike riding. Road construction frequently does not include sidewalks or bike lanes.

I have noticed this, and it sucks. A serious public health issue. Better for the environment, better for people's health, if there is a walkway and bikeway. Moreover, how can children go out and play if there is no footpath? These roads without footpaths are quite dangerous for the pedestrian.

226 posted on 08/28/2006 6:46:11 PM PDT by BlackVeil
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To: cinives
can I have the recipe ? please, pretty please ? I love garlic.

Of course you can.........please FReepmail me to remind me to dig it out - I'm sorry but I'm just too tired to do the typing tonight.

Its a very simple recipe, with very few ingredients....garlic lightly sauted in butter, sugar, vinegar and pectin.

227 posted on 08/28/2006 6:46:54 PM PDT by Gabz (Taxaholism, the disease you elect to have (TY xcamel))
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To: cinives

As long as there's beer with that, a ploughman's supper is SO for me.


228 posted on 08/28/2006 6:49:44 PM PDT by Xenalyte (No movie shall triumph over "Snakes on a Plane.")
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To: Xenalyte

I cannot believe how much money I save on meat by having an upright freezer in the laundry room. I would make room for one in just about any room in the house, if I had to.

And now I am going to start baking more snack type foods to save on the expensive granola bar scene. Unless I want to be baking 24/7, I have to make a lot at once and freeze it.

Finally, in extolling the joys of a stand-alone freezer: we take an afternoon and everyone makes a pan of lasagne. After chilling it overnight, I cut it into portions and freeze individually. Wonderfully delicious and so convenient to be able to pull out how ever many servings are needed. All kinds of casseroles and home-made prepared foods---soups, curries, meatloaf, meatballs, the list goes on-- can be made at a fraction of the storebought cost and frozen at home.


229 posted on 08/28/2006 6:56:40 PM PDT by wouldntbprudent (If you can: Contribute more (babies) to the next generation of God-fearing American Patriots!)
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To: cinives

Squirrels got the tomatoes and dug up my onions. Rabbits ate my parsley, fennel, bean plants, young eggplants, turnips, collards, kohlrabi (okay...I got a fence that saved some beans, and the greens.) Heck, dang bunnies were even eating tmarigold buds. I planted some flowering tobacco and it's a wonder they haven't learned to wad a chaw by now.

I got peppers, though. Mostly because I planted the hot varieties.


230 posted on 08/28/2006 6:58:42 PM PDT by Overtaxed
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To: Xenalyte

Now cheese is a very good-for-you food that can stretch a dinner at not too much expense (unless you are getting really fancy).

And cheese keeps quite a long time unopened. So if a nice Mozz goes on sale, I stock up. Then I put a slab on the boys' lunch plate and suddenly their sandwich seems like a nice meal.


231 posted on 08/28/2006 6:59:00 PM PDT by wouldntbprudent (If you can: Contribute more (babies) to the next generation of God-fearing American Patriots!)
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To: Gabz

WHAT???

fm me with the recipe, if you please!!


232 posted on 08/28/2006 6:59:33 PM PDT by wouldntbprudent (If you can: Contribute more (babies) to the next generation of God-fearing American Patriots!)
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To: wouldntbprudent

I am very open-minded in regard to cheese. I like just about any cheese there is.

My jury is still out on goat cheese and Stilton, but I am sure that's because I've never had really really good varieties of either one.


233 posted on 08/28/2006 7:02:21 PM PDT by Xenalyte (No movie shall triumph over "Snakes on a Plane.")
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To: wouldntbprudent

Doesn't that sound incredible? I could eat garlic jelly with a spoon.


234 posted on 08/28/2006 7:02:42 PM PDT by Xenalyte (No movie shall triumph over "Snakes on a Plane.")
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To: Gabz

My local Wally World has started selling dried fruit in a new sort of baking section. It's quite reasonably priced.

The blueberries and cherries were wonderful in muffins, so I am hoping I can find a way to use them in a snack-type bar.

The packaged ones are very convenient, but I think even if I use those snack baggies and individually bag and freeze my homemade snacks, I will come out ahead pricewise (and, it goes without saying, nutrition-wise).


235 posted on 08/28/2006 7:04:14 PM PDT by wouldntbprudent (If you can: Contribute more (babies) to the next generation of God-fearing American Patriots!)
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To: Bonaparte

In Germany, many restaurants have a menu item called a "Grillteller." It's a platter of grilled mixed meats. That's what we do and it's wonderful.

As for the cooking show, yes, I've seen it.

And I've lived it. Sometimes some really wonderful meals come out of "what's in the fridge?" Funny, those nights it seems there's nothing for dinner also seem to be the nights we end up with huge amounts of food on the table--precisely b/c I think "okay, a little of this . . . some of that . . . oh, how about . . ."


236 posted on 08/28/2006 7:07:09 PM PDT by wouldntbprudent (If you can: Contribute more (babies) to the next generation of God-fearing American Patriots!)
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To: Overtaxed

Plant more marigolds around the garden - let the bunnies eat them.

Talcum powder, ground cayenne or other dried hot pepper sifted on and around the plants will also deter the bunnies.


237 posted on 08/28/2006 7:09:51 PM PDT by Gabz (Taxaholism, the disease you elect to have (TY xcamel))
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To: Xenalyte

Always. If you drink Woodchuck Apple it's a real meal, complete with fruit :)


238 posted on 08/28/2006 7:12:48 PM PDT by cinives (On some planets what I do is considered normal.)
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To: wouldntbprudent; cinives; Xenalyte

LOL!!!

Now I have 3 of you!!!!

I'll get it to you all tomorrow - I just don't feel like the typing 2nite.


239 posted on 08/28/2006 7:13:24 PM PDT by Gabz (Taxaholism, the disease you elect to have (TY xcamel))
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To: Gabz

I tried that deer-off spray. I just think the varmints acquired a taste for cayenne, garlic, and putrified egg solids. The air gun is a fun solution, but I work days.

The fence pretty much solved the rabbit problem. I think I'm going to have to make fully enclosed cages for next year's tomatoes. I can do squash, though. The only things bothering the squash are the squash borers...and the heat.


240 posted on 08/28/2006 7:15:52 PM PDT by Overtaxed
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