America's Taliban strikes again

Arkansas News Bureau ^ | 28 August 2006 | John Brummett

[stormer]

Now stop piling on. Everybody knows the executions will be in private, and even then only after the misguided ones refuse to undergo sterilization.

[SuziQ]

Thus it's America's Taliban, America's Shiite theocracy.

I don't think so. When was the last time that Coral Ridge Ministries lined up burqa clad women and shot them because the women didn't live up to Coral Ridge's interpretation of Christianity?

[LibertarianSchmoe]

Have they advocated killing those who don't agree with them?

No, no, no. It's way to soon for that. First, you paint the enemy to be a thing worthy of killing, in this case by claiming that they created Hitler.

[LiberationIT]

I admire your patience.

Regards,

[Senator Bedfellow]

Thanks, but it's just about exhausted here anyway :)

[stormer]

"In the world of political debate, which exists outside of a science lab I might add, we have this thing called hyperbole. It's an interesting concept."

In the scientific world, hyperbole is sometimes called good old-fashioned lying. That's an interesting concept as well.

[Non-Sequitur]

I haven't heard one word of refutation of what Kennedy says, only insults.

OK, how about this? Nazism was based on the concept of a master race and the belief that culture degenerates when distict races intermix. It was dependent on the acceptance that the Aryan race, as decending from the Nordic warrior peoples, was the personification of all that was pure and holy among the races. The purity of the race was paramount, and the idea that it or another race might evolve into something better or higher was discounted. I don't think Darwin ever went down that road. And I doubt that Hitler would sign on to Darwin's ideas that he evolved from a lower species or that intermixing might produce a stronger, more survivable hybrid. After all, purity of the race was paramount, protection of the culture was everything. In the end Nazism is more dependent on the works of men like Arthur de Gobineau and Houston Chamberlain and Frederich Nietzsche, men who based none of their writings on Darwin, than on Darwin himself. Had Darwin never existed, Hitler most likely still would have, all other things being equal. But for Kennedy it's not about fact or science. It's easier to slander Darwin by linking him to Hitler than it is to provide evidence of ID that refutes his findings. It's completely understandable why he took this route instead.

[gcruse]

"These men aren't conservatives.'

Neither, we find, are the gang in Washington, DC. Much like the elusive Yankee, finding an American conservative has become as bewildering as the road direction "go down the road a piece and turn left where the old school house used to be."

The splintering of the right continues apace. Socons, theocons, neocons, paleocons...

Liberals have a different problem. Renaming themselves progressives doesn't distance them from their politics. The L word has been anathema for twenty years and the only variance is left, far left and Michael Moore's your daddy.

[JamesP81]

Fact is, nazi racism had roots that went down into multiple soils. But all those soils had this is common: They were found in hearts that disbelieved the clear words and teaching of the Bible.

Interesting point. Much effort is exerted to describe what Hitler and Nazism was, but not as much on what it was not. Normally, this information wouldn't matter, but in this case it's quite telling.

[JamesP81]

Smehow I doubt you've ever said, suggested, or implied that someone comparing evangelicals or conservatives to the Taliban was engaging in hyperbole.

No I haven't for the simple reason that I've seen enough of these threads to know that most of the time the comparison is not hyperbolic, but honest. This certainly isn't true of all, but I have good reason to believe it's true of a great many.

[Fester Chugabrew]

Hitler was an embodiment of bad science and bad theology who found a willing audience to practice both.

[steve-b]

Two words, Steve: Social Darwinism.

Ah. I see that you're one of those folks who assumes that labels always mean what the common meanings of the words imply.

I assume that only pressing business has kept you from moving to the perfect nation, the Republic that is run for the benefit of the People. When you're able to go, give my regards to Pyongyang.

[stormer]

"It's easier to slander Darwin by linking him to Hitler..."

Excellent analysis.

[JamesP81]

In the scientific world, hyperbole is sometimes called good old-fashioned lying

That might be so. FR, however, is not a science forum meaning hyperbole is a normal feature of operations here. When in Rome...

[RobbyS]

There is a difference between "evolved from 'lower' animal forms" and the assertion that man differs from the apes only in degree and interjects in ascending order the races of man between chimp and the "higher" forms of humanity, with many different clans contesting for that perch.

[steve-b]

But then, we should never forget that along with scientific advancement, comes the responsibility to understand the difference between "can" and "should."

You're hardly in a position to lecture others on a responsibility that you have explicitly abdicated.

[Senator Bedfellow]

Why on earth should we assume that someone who might agree with us on some issue is not making an honest comparison, while someone who might disagree with us on some issue is making an honest comparison?

Your method for interpreting the intentions of others is...interesting, at least. LOL.

[Jeff Head]

Senator Befellow, I've read all of your exchange with Skooz. Him saying that such people should be removed from the gene pool was admittedly overt the top IMHO...but when called on it, in his post 53 and his post 76 he admitted he advocated killing no one and that he really just wished they would voluntarily stop breeding.

That's good enough for me and sounds like he retracted what most people took for the statement's meaning...my own feeling is that you should let it go now after those two comments he made, otherwise, you begin to look to be about as intolerant as you claim he is.

Just my opinion...it cost nothing and you can take it for what its worth.

[stormer]

When in Rome I don't tell lies.

[RustMartialis]

but likely you're pcusa so it doesn't count.

Church of Scotland, actually. The auld kirk.

--R.