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Dr. Doom speaks his mind AN OVERPOPULATED EARTH?
Houston Chronicle ^ | 8-27-06 | LISA SANDBERG

Posted on 08/27/2006 1:52:27 PM PDT by Snickering Hound

AUSTIN - When classes resume at the University of Texas at Austin this week, 90 impressionable undergrads will file into an ecology class taught by a chatty zoology professor known — not always out of earshot — as Dr. Doom.

His real name is Eric Pianka, and students enrolled in his Ecology, Evolution and Society course will hear a sad synopsis of Earth's vanishing species and habitats — coupled with an apocalyptic warning about humans racing obliviously toward the edge of a high cliff.

If he models his lectures on previous ones, Pianka may remark that the planet would be better off without 90 percent of the humans who now populate it — no offense to anyone in particular.

"We should have done something about our population 25 or 30 years ago," the Denton A. Cooley Centennial Professor of Zoology said during a recent interview at his university office.

"Now we're going to have to go into a collapse. It's going to be very painful. The death rate is going to have to exceed the birth rate, we're going to have famines, civilizations are going to fall apart."

Such views have turned Pianka, a 67-year-old lizard expert, into one of UT's biggest public relations headaches.

It started last spring, when Pianka gave two academic audiences the same doomsday speech he's been delivering for years. Only this time, a reporter happened to be present and turned Pianka's remarks into a story in the Seguin Gazette-Enterprise.

News services picked it up, the blog world went crazy, and pretty soon, Pianka was being reported to the FBI as a terror threat. The FBI saw no need to launch a formal investigation, but agents did meet with the professor to discuss the death threats that poured in.

Unflattering op-ed pieces and news stories appeared nationwide. The Boston Globe likened him to a "zealot in scientific garb."

Loved or hated, Pianka is a scientist with stellar credentials who uses his podium to advance ideas that can challenge, enlighten, frighten and offend — sometimes all at once.

In March, just before the headlines erupted, the Texas Academy of Science named him its Distinguished Scientist for 2006; now the organization won't comment on his selection or any aspect of the controversy, said its president, David Marsh.

Pianka's employer has stood behind him. In a sense, Pianka states what many scientists have been saying for decades: Exploding human populations, particularly in developing countries, coupled with voracious consumption patterns in developed ones, put great strain on Earth and its resources, which in turn create conditions ripe for wars, famines and environmental catastrophes.

Pianka might be more blunt than others, said his boss, Robert Jansen, UT's chairman of Integrative Biology, who called Pianka one of the department's "most senior faculty members with a long and distinguished career in both research and teaching."

It's Pianka's willingness to attack all manner of subjects, including organized religion and babies, that lands him in so much trouble.

He believes in population limits, lauds China for its one-child policy and says the U.S. government has it all wrong: It should be taxing people for having children, not rewarding them with tax breaks.

Pianka insists he doesn't advocate the mass killing of people; it's merely an inevitability.

But, as he writes in The Vanishing Book of Life on Earth, conditions "are going to get better after the collapse because humans won't be able to decimate the Earth so much."

"And I actually think the world will be much better off when only 10 percent or 20 percent of us are left. It would give wildlife a chance to recover — we won't need conservation biologists anymore. Things are going to get better for the denizens of Earth as they deteriorate for humans."

As an unabashed, unapologetic nature lover, Pianka argues humans should be stewards of the Earth, not conquerors. He takes the biblical book of Genesis to task for encouraging the idea that humans should multiply and have dominion over the land.

In his most cynical moment while interviewed, he described people as "wicked" but quickly added, "Oh, that's going to get me in trouble."

"This is not politically correct stuff," he acknowledged, sitting in the cluttered university office he has worked in for 38 years.

Family members have urged him to just stick to the facts, with no editorials, to separate the science from the philosophy. Pianka's response: "I can't separate it."

"Humans are at the pinnacle of evolution," he continued. "We're at the top of the food chain. We're able to do anything we want. We can knock down trees, level mountains, distill seawater. A puny man can take a chain saw and cut down a redwood or harpoon a whale. Nothing is inviolate. ... It's all disappearing before our eyes."

Paul Ehrlich, professor of population studies at Stanford University who in 1968 wrote The Population Bomb, a best-seller that warned of — some say exaggerated — the threats posed by the growth of human numbers, urged Pianka to hang in there.

Ehrlich, too, received his share of nasty letters, harassing phone calls and protests when his book was published. But that year the human population stood at 3.5 billion. With nearly 6.5 billion people now on the planet, the problem is infinitely more relevant, he said.

C. Herb Ward, who teaches in the department of ecology and evolutionary biology at Rice University, said there is widespread agreement in the scientific community that humans have placed great stress on the natural environment.

"Man hasn't helped the ecology," he said. "I think most ecologists would say the world is overpopulated."

But the conclusions one draws from that assessment — whether and how to reduce population growth, who's to blame for the current state of affairs — are value judgments, Ward said.

They are value judgments Pianka is quite comfortable making.

"I think we're going to be cavemen again because we're too stupid to head it off," he said.

And his are value judgments some are quite comfortable attacking. One critic who attended one of his speeches was quoted in a blog saying it reminded him of a "futuristic science fiction movie with a crazed scientist planning the death of humanity."

Father Dave Farnum, a priest at the on-campus University Catholic Center, said Pianka's views don't mesh with Catholicism, but Farnum wasn't holding it against him.

"This is a secular university, and God bless America for him being able to speak his mind," Farnum said.

For a guy with gloomy views, Pianka is quite pleasant to be around. He is garrulous, quick to offer iced tea to a visitor and eager to show off the 18 bison he keeps as pets on his 184-acre property near Dripping Springs, where he lives alone in a simple stone cottage he built.

He has white hair, a full white beard and walks with a slight limp after being gored last spring by one of his buffaloes.

For the record, he's not advocating people kill themselves for the sake of the planet. And no, he's not offering his own life, either, as some of his harsher critics have demanded.

"That's nonsense. I'm just saying the tidal wave is coming," Pianka said.

One thing about Pianka: He's no purist. He makes $110,000 a year in his tenured position but donates little or none of it to environmental causes, saying the money would probably be misused.

His two adult daughters, whom he adores, are proof that he did not have himself sterilized as a youth. He drives 70 miles a day back and forth to work, though he does so in a Toyota Prius. He's got air conditioning throughout his house.

He says he tries to reduce his imprint on the Earth, but not as much as some of his friends, who've replaced their cars with bikes. In the end, Pianka said, it doesn't really matter.

"In truth, it backfires. It's kind of like crews cleaning up the highways. All it does is encourage people to toss their (trash) out. When you walk or ride a bike or drive a Prius, all you do is encourage some (expletive) out there to drive a Hummer or an Excursion."

Pianka grew up in Yreka, Calif., in the foothills of Mount Shasta, a few miles south of Oregon. His father worked in the surrounding gold mines and lumber mills. Pianka said he spent every minute he could outside, observing nature and watching the environment deteriorate.

Today, he mourns the disappearance of animals in the Hill Country, where real estate development is rapid. He used to count 18 species of snakes when he bought his property in 1978. He now counts four. Even the rattlesnakes are gone. Lizard species have similarly vanished.

In a third-floor science lecture hall this week, he will share with first- and second-year students a little of what's been lost. He might tell them humans could have been godlike but instead turned greedy and trampled what they should have left alone. He believes it.


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To: Sooner1938

I agree with him,and some of the other posters,It would not be so bad if the intelligent articulate contributing members of society were the ones having more children .That is not the case !Average amount of children born to an 33 year old unmarried woman in the 9th ward of N.O is 5 .I had 2 children 1 to replace husband, 1 to replace me.Spent tons of time before age of 5 teaching to read ,write and think, and not just that but to value our surroundings,animals,plants,nature and history.I watch huge tracts of land every day stripped to bare dirt ,for another cookie cutter subdivision ,metal buildings lining the highway with junk cars,used washing machines,worn out tires,and just about everything else you could name.I live in the #62 fastest growing county in the U.S and the very things people moved here to get away from are showing up,and the things they moved here for are disappearing!


41 posted on 08/27/2006 5:30:13 PM PDT by only the truth
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To: Sooner1938

"I happen to agree with Dr. Doom."

You, just like Dr. Doom, have no problem with mass human extinction as long as you are one of those to "hang around" and show how good stewards of the planet should behave. "Do as I say not as I do" I'm sure is your motto.

Where is the context about where the world's population is exploding? It sure as heck isn't in any first world country. But it sure IS in any Islamic country along with most third world countries. There is a reason they call them developing nations.


42 posted on 08/27/2006 5:49:03 PM PDT by torchthemummy (Abortion: One Dead, One Wounded)
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To: Brian Mosely

more like a "mole man".


43 posted on 08/27/2006 5:57:11 PM PDT by bobby.223
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To: only the truth

"It would not be so bad if the intelligent articulate contributing members of society were the ones having more children." - Freeper only the truth

"All animals are equal but some are more equal than others." - George Orwell


44 posted on 08/27/2006 5:58:33 PM PDT by torchthemummy (Abortion: One Dead, One Wounded)
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To: Snickering Hound
"are going to get better after the collapse because humans won't be able to decimate the Earth so much."

Note that contemporary academia's most acclaimed, award-winning poster boys don't know what the word "decimate" means.

45 posted on 08/27/2006 6:03:24 PM PDT by denydenydeny
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To: Snickering Hound

Paul Ehrlich was wrong and so is this guy. Famine isn't caused by "overpopulation." It's caused by dictators like Mugabe who steal the land from the farmers and kick them out of the country.


46 posted on 08/27/2006 6:20:13 PM PDT by grundle
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To: Sooner1938
I happen to agree with Dr. Doom. We DO have way too many people on this earth. Years ago, I wrote a college term paper in which I said that I would like to have seen the earth before man appeared. Surely, it would have been a more beautiful place.

"Beauty" is a term humans invented to describe their own feelings about what's out there. Would a squirrel, struggling to survive on an earth without humans, appreciate its environment? The whole idea of environment, and stewardship of it, is a human invention. Ever other species breeds without limit until the number of individuals dying of starvation or predation equals the number born. Nature is at that point in "balance".

47 posted on 08/27/2006 6:31:57 PM PDT by BlazingArizona
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To: umgud

getting rid of a few iberals wouldn't hurt either......Lets start with the entire democratic party!!!!!


48 posted on 08/27/2006 6:39:51 PM PDT by fishbabe
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To: Sooner1938
We DO have way too many people on this earth.

If you truly believed that, you would remove yourself from this planet as quickly as possible.

49 posted on 08/27/2006 7:29:17 PM PDT by TaxRelief (Wal-Mart: Keeping my family on-budget since 1993.)
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To: Snickering Hound
"This is not politically correct stuff," he acknowledged, sitting in the cluttered university office he has worked in for 38 years.

Yes it is! It is the most politically correct idea.

He should start by killing himself.

50 posted on 08/27/2006 7:33:49 PM PDT by Cogadh na Sith (There's an open road from the cradle to the tomb.)
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To: Snickering Hound
The Doomslayer is an excellent article about Julian Simon, the business professor who challenged Ehrlich to a bet on whether resources would be more or less expensive (and thus more or less scarce). One should be careful about allowing oneself to be compared to Ehrlich, et al.
51 posted on 08/27/2006 7:47:38 PM PDT by Stegall Tx (Pray often. Cite your sources.)
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To: Snickering Hound
U.S. government has it all wrong: It should be taxing people for having children, not rewarding them with tax breaks.

And some socialist hasn't crucified him for this? I would think making reproduction a perk of the plutocracy (their words not mine) would be elitist in the extreme.

52 posted on 08/27/2006 8:00:21 PM PDT by Centurion2000 (Islam is a subsingularity memetic perversion : (http://www.orionsarm.com/topics/perversities.html))
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To: Sooner1938
You obviously don't get out much or live in a crowded city. I live in Idaho. Extremely low density. You can drive down roads for miles and see nothing but the natural environment. A trip from San Diego to Pocatello on I-15 will expose you to massive expanses of totally uninhabited land. Likewise a trip from Lincoln, NE to Salt Lake City down I-80. I had to drive from Birmingham, AL to Salt Lake City, UT to escape Hurricane Ivan. I was amazed at the expanses of vacant land in it's pristine state.
53 posted on 08/27/2006 8:03:20 PM PDT by Myrddin
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To: Snickering Hound
I have an excellent suggestion. Why doesn't he set a good example and OFF Himself?
54 posted on 08/27/2006 8:07:51 PM PDT by dvan
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To: Sooner1938; mc6809e; Harmless Teddy Bear; sauropod; A message; Rawlings; BlessedBeGod; ...
I happen to agree with Dr. Doom. We DO have way too many people on this earth.

Sooner,
Drive through Wyoming, Montana or more than 100 miles north of the Caandian border .... there is PLENTY of room on this planet for people.

Everyone else got pinged to this to show how to make any population bomb propaganda spouter look lik an idiot.

Here's a map you need to take a look at

See all those green and gray areas? There are no crowds, plenty of wilderness and PLENTY of room to live in.


55 posted on 08/27/2006 8:11:39 PM PDT by Centurion2000 (Islam is a subsingularity memetic perversion : (http://www.orionsarm.com/topics/perversities.html))
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To: Sooner1938; All
I happen to agree with Dr. Doom. We DO have way too many people on this earth. Years ago, I wrote a college term paper in which I said that I would like to have seen the earth before man appeared. Surely, it would have been a more beautiful place.

I hate to say it but you just triggered a "ZOT!" from the Viking Kitties! Unfortunatly, this Viking Kitty crossed the BiFrost Bridge up to Vahalla today but I figure she is good for one more ZOT! As you can see, she ran on 120 volts, 60 cycles AC power as well as internal batteries.

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Pansy: b. 8-19-1987 - d. 8-27-2006
56 posted on 08/27/2006 8:16:05 PM PDT by Nowhere Man (Pansy: b. 8-19-1987 - d. 8-27-2006, I'll miss you, little princess.... B-()
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To: Nowhere Man

Sorry about your cat, man. Great picture, though.


57 posted on 08/27/2006 8:25:31 PM PDT by Stegall Tx (Pray often. Cite your sources.)
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To: Stegall Tx

Thanks. She just turned 19 last week. For the last month, she had fluid on the lungs and there were indications of lymphatic cancer. We were going to treat it using cortisone shots to reduce the tumor(s) but it was a bit too late. B-( She had a hyperactive thyroid too but we kept that under control with meds. Yeah, she was a tough one to lose, having her for 19 years, what is tougher, I lost another cat 4 months ago to kidney failure but in his case, we has only 5 years old. Losing two so close is really tough, plus I almost lost a third in May but we pulled him through. I have six cats now.


58 posted on 08/27/2006 8:33:12 PM PDT by Nowhere Man (Pansy: b. 8-19-1987 - d. 8-27-2006, I'll miss you, little princess.... B-()
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To: Snickering Hound
"We should have done something about our population 25 or 30 years ago,"

"We" DID do something, or rather they did, Dr. Doom and his ilk:

They convinced the members of MY generation that the earth was being overpopulated, we were running out of resources, Oh doom!

So we, the intelligent, educated, moral white folks, stopped having kids, or had far fewer than our parents' generation.

Meanwhile, (a) the Dr. Dooms of the world were as wrong about this as they are about everything else; and
(b) the other demographics kept right on pumping out offspring.

So now whites are a minority in Texas.

My generation was sold a line of crap by the "Dr. Dooms" of this country, and I'm angry about it.

59 posted on 08/27/2006 8:54:15 PM PDT by Redbob
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To: Snickering Hound

It was real pertinent to point out that he had air conditioning in his house! I think this guy makes sense.


60 posted on 08/27/2006 9:03:13 PM PDT by TheLion
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