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Dr. Doom speaks his mind AN OVERPOPULATED EARTH?
Houston Chronicle ^ | 8-27-06 | LISA SANDBERG

Posted on 08/27/2006 1:52:27 PM PDT by Snickering Hound

AUSTIN - When classes resume at the University of Texas at Austin this week, 90 impressionable undergrads will file into an ecology class taught by a chatty zoology professor known — not always out of earshot — as Dr. Doom.

His real name is Eric Pianka, and students enrolled in his Ecology, Evolution and Society course will hear a sad synopsis of Earth's vanishing species and habitats — coupled with an apocalyptic warning about humans racing obliviously toward the edge of a high cliff.

If he models his lectures on previous ones, Pianka may remark that the planet would be better off without 90 percent of the humans who now populate it — no offense to anyone in particular.

"We should have done something about our population 25 or 30 years ago," the Denton A. Cooley Centennial Professor of Zoology said during a recent interview at his university office.

"Now we're going to have to go into a collapse. It's going to be very painful. The death rate is going to have to exceed the birth rate, we're going to have famines, civilizations are going to fall apart."

Such views have turned Pianka, a 67-year-old lizard expert, into one of UT's biggest public relations headaches.

It started last spring, when Pianka gave two academic audiences the same doomsday speech he's been delivering for years. Only this time, a reporter happened to be present and turned Pianka's remarks into a story in the Seguin Gazette-Enterprise.

News services picked it up, the blog world went crazy, and pretty soon, Pianka was being reported to the FBI as a terror threat. The FBI saw no need to launch a formal investigation, but agents did meet with the professor to discuss the death threats that poured in.

Unflattering op-ed pieces and news stories appeared nationwide. The Boston Globe likened him to a "zealot in scientific garb."

Loved or hated, Pianka is a scientist with stellar credentials who uses his podium to advance ideas that can challenge, enlighten, frighten and offend — sometimes all at once.

In March, just before the headlines erupted, the Texas Academy of Science named him its Distinguished Scientist for 2006; now the organization won't comment on his selection or any aspect of the controversy, said its president, David Marsh.

Pianka's employer has stood behind him. In a sense, Pianka states what many scientists have been saying for decades: Exploding human populations, particularly in developing countries, coupled with voracious consumption patterns in developed ones, put great strain on Earth and its resources, which in turn create conditions ripe for wars, famines and environmental catastrophes.

Pianka might be more blunt than others, said his boss, Robert Jansen, UT's chairman of Integrative Biology, who called Pianka one of the department's "most senior faculty members with a long and distinguished career in both research and teaching."

It's Pianka's willingness to attack all manner of subjects, including organized religion and babies, that lands him in so much trouble.

He believes in population limits, lauds China for its one-child policy and says the U.S. government has it all wrong: It should be taxing people for having children, not rewarding them with tax breaks.

Pianka insists he doesn't advocate the mass killing of people; it's merely an inevitability.

But, as he writes in The Vanishing Book of Life on Earth, conditions "are going to get better after the collapse because humans won't be able to decimate the Earth so much."

"And I actually think the world will be much better off when only 10 percent or 20 percent of us are left. It would give wildlife a chance to recover — we won't need conservation biologists anymore. Things are going to get better for the denizens of Earth as they deteriorate for humans."

As an unabashed, unapologetic nature lover, Pianka argues humans should be stewards of the Earth, not conquerors. He takes the biblical book of Genesis to task for encouraging the idea that humans should multiply and have dominion over the land.

In his most cynical moment while interviewed, he described people as "wicked" but quickly added, "Oh, that's going to get me in trouble."

"This is not politically correct stuff," he acknowledged, sitting in the cluttered university office he has worked in for 38 years.

Family members have urged him to just stick to the facts, with no editorials, to separate the science from the philosophy. Pianka's response: "I can't separate it."

"Humans are at the pinnacle of evolution," he continued. "We're at the top of the food chain. We're able to do anything we want. We can knock down trees, level mountains, distill seawater. A puny man can take a chain saw and cut down a redwood or harpoon a whale. Nothing is inviolate. ... It's all disappearing before our eyes."

Paul Ehrlich, professor of population studies at Stanford University who in 1968 wrote The Population Bomb, a best-seller that warned of — some say exaggerated — the threats posed by the growth of human numbers, urged Pianka to hang in there.

Ehrlich, too, received his share of nasty letters, harassing phone calls and protests when his book was published. But that year the human population stood at 3.5 billion. With nearly 6.5 billion people now on the planet, the problem is infinitely more relevant, he said.

C. Herb Ward, who teaches in the department of ecology and evolutionary biology at Rice University, said there is widespread agreement in the scientific community that humans have placed great stress on the natural environment.

"Man hasn't helped the ecology," he said. "I think most ecologists would say the world is overpopulated."

But the conclusions one draws from that assessment — whether and how to reduce population growth, who's to blame for the current state of affairs — are value judgments, Ward said.

They are value judgments Pianka is quite comfortable making.

"I think we're going to be cavemen again because we're too stupid to head it off," he said.

And his are value judgments some are quite comfortable attacking. One critic who attended one of his speeches was quoted in a blog saying it reminded him of a "futuristic science fiction movie with a crazed scientist planning the death of humanity."

Father Dave Farnum, a priest at the on-campus University Catholic Center, said Pianka's views don't mesh with Catholicism, but Farnum wasn't holding it against him.

"This is a secular university, and God bless America for him being able to speak his mind," Farnum said.

For a guy with gloomy views, Pianka is quite pleasant to be around. He is garrulous, quick to offer iced tea to a visitor and eager to show off the 18 bison he keeps as pets on his 184-acre property near Dripping Springs, where he lives alone in a simple stone cottage he built.

He has white hair, a full white beard and walks with a slight limp after being gored last spring by one of his buffaloes.

For the record, he's not advocating people kill themselves for the sake of the planet. And no, he's not offering his own life, either, as some of his harsher critics have demanded.

"That's nonsense. I'm just saying the tidal wave is coming," Pianka said.

One thing about Pianka: He's no purist. He makes $110,000 a year in his tenured position but donates little or none of it to environmental causes, saying the money would probably be misused.

His two adult daughters, whom he adores, are proof that he did not have himself sterilized as a youth. He drives 70 miles a day back and forth to work, though he does so in a Toyota Prius. He's got air conditioning throughout his house.

He says he tries to reduce his imprint on the Earth, but not as much as some of his friends, who've replaced their cars with bikes. In the end, Pianka said, it doesn't really matter.

"In truth, it backfires. It's kind of like crews cleaning up the highways. All it does is encourage people to toss their (trash) out. When you walk or ride a bike or drive a Prius, all you do is encourage some (expletive) out there to drive a Hummer or an Excursion."

Pianka grew up in Yreka, Calif., in the foothills of Mount Shasta, a few miles south of Oregon. His father worked in the surrounding gold mines and lumber mills. Pianka said he spent every minute he could outside, observing nature and watching the environment deteriorate.

Today, he mourns the disappearance of animals in the Hill Country, where real estate development is rapid. He used to count 18 species of snakes when he bought his property in 1978. He now counts four. Even the rattlesnakes are gone. Lizard species have similarly vanished.

In a third-floor science lecture hall this week, he will share with first- and second-year students a little of what's been lost. He might tell them humans could have been godlike but instead turned greedy and trampled what they should have left alone. He believes it.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: antihumanism; antihumanist; cultureofdeath; pagan; pianka
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1 posted on 08/27/2006 1:52:28 PM PDT by Snickering Hound
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To: Snickering Hound

It's a good thing I'm not in his class. Just because I have five children, I am NOT going to feel guilty about it. I'd likely find myself getting into an argument and getting kicked out of that class as soon as he started this garbage.


2 posted on 08/27/2006 1:56:43 PM PDT by HungarianGypsy (Like food and fun? Join the Freeper Kitchen ping list.)
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To: Snickering Hound

I happen to agree with Dr. Doom. We DO have way too many people on this earth. Years ago, I wrote a college term paper in which I said that I would like to have seen the earth before man appeared. Surely, it would have been a more beautiful place.


3 posted on 08/27/2006 1:57:41 PM PDT by Sooner1938 (Disgusted)
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To: Snickering Hound

SO! Such a man dares to take the name of... DOOM!!!

4 posted on 08/27/2006 1:58:50 PM PDT by Brian Mosely (A government is a body of people -- usually notably ungoverned)
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To: HungarianGypsy

I tend to agree with him but only with some reservations.

For instance I think it's great that you have a large family and I wish more Americans were doing the same. The problem is the 3rd world population explosion that is overflowing to here and Europe. I like the idea of a stable population but we aren't having enough children and the 3rd world is having too many.


5 posted on 08/27/2006 2:06:25 PM PDT by cripplecreek (If stupidity got us into this mess, then why can't it get us out?)
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To: Snickering Hound

The solution is to send about 13 million of us back to Mexico.


6 posted on 08/27/2006 2:12:39 PM PDT by Brilliant
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To: cripplecreek
Dunderhead! Dr. Doom---- I saw the article in the Houston Chronicle this morning, did not read it.

My vote is that all allah's minions go up in smoke, be they fundamentalists or moderates. Next go the communists, former or present. Then the neo-nazis, and anarchists. Finally, liberals.
7 posted on 08/27/2006 2:14:02 PM PDT by Tahoe3002 (Death to Terrorists!!! Semper Fi! USMC 1970-1981)
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To: Snickering Hound
For a guy with gloomy views, Pianka is quite pleasant to be around.

Why is that surprising? Reporters as a group hate the human race and so throw themselves lovingly at the feet of anyone who wants us all to die.

8 posted on 08/27/2006 2:17:01 PM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear (A propensity to hope and joy is real riches; one to fear and sorrow, real poverty)
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To: Sooner1938
We DO have way too many people on this earth.

Please feel free to exit at any time.

9 posted on 08/27/2006 2:18:50 PM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear (A propensity to hope and joy is real riches; one to fear and sorrow, real poverty)
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To: Snickering Hound

I guess the University thought that it would look good if they employed a mental case professor. Doesn't matter what his credentials are a high school dropout could teach the same stuff he does.


10 posted on 08/27/2006 2:20:32 PM PDT by taxesareforever (Never forget Matt Maupin)
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To: sauropod

review


11 posted on 08/27/2006 2:21:11 PM PDT by sauropod (Giving money and power to government is like giving whiskey and car keys to teenage boys." PJO)
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To: Snickering Hound

I agree with him and wish we could get rid of about 1.2 billion people (muslims).


12 posted on 08/27/2006 2:25:01 PM PDT by umgud (Do moderate muslims luv us infidels and Jews?.... Didn't think so.)
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To: Sooner1938
I happen to agree with Dr. Doom. We DO have way too many people on this earth.

Do we now. Says who, you and Dr Doom. Hmm, I travel much, I see vast tracts of uninhabited land, land with good soil and ample water.

I said that I would like to have seen the earth before man appeared. Surely, it would have been a more beautiful place.

Depends on ones definition of beauty and no I do not believe that surely would be the case.

I find beauty in the works of humankind.The buildings of humankind. The farms, the inventiveness, the creativity to mold and shape our planet. I not only find the best of humankind beautiful I find humankind remarkable despite our foibles.

In fact I insist that humans are the greatest natural resource on this planet.

No other element, no other resource, nothing can do what humankind can do. No other living entity on this planet can save all the others.

Think about that last sentance, Luddite.

13 posted on 08/27/2006 2:31:52 PM PDT by A message (We who care, Can Not Fail)
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To: Snickering Hound

We've got a guy like that at the University of Colorado, too. What an idiot. When he gave a lecture I was tempted to inform him that I intend on having six kids. Since he was an old guy I didn't want to give him a heart attack by telling him this. These nutters are looking at 1970s stats and projections. The truth is that the UN Population Council has dramatically downsized projections. In fact, the big demography story is that the 3rd world is having far fewer kids (Mexico's fertility rate is nearly below replacement level). Overall, the global fertility rate is only about 2.5 per woman.

Frankly, I think this country is overpopulated with dummies like this professor. We need more good conservatives and less hippy dippy professors. So we'll keep popping 'em out and the lefties will have their "one designer baby at age 38" (Mark Steyn)...and conservatives will soon rule the roost.


14 posted on 08/27/2006 2:32:37 PM PDT by Rawlings (Tipton Time!)
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To: Snickering Hound
In his most cynical moment while interviewed, he described people as "wicked..."

That tells you exactly where he's coming from: all people are bad, all nature is good.

15 posted on 08/27/2006 2:34:25 PM PDT by BlessedBeGod
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To: A message; Sooner1938
Ihappen to agree with Dr. Doom. We DO have way too many people on this earth.

Do we now. Says who, you and Dr Doom. Hmm, I travel much, I see vast tracts of uninhabited land, land with good soil and ample water.

On a similar thread a few months ago some FReepers helped me calculate that you could comfortably fit all the people in the entire world into Texas (actually you could put them in Nebraska).

16 posted on 08/27/2006 2:37:37 PM PDT by freedumb2003 (I LIKE you! When I am Ruler of Earth, yours will be a quick and painless death)
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To: BlessedBeGod
That tells you exactly where he's coming from: all people are bad, all nature is good.

Well, then he should turn himself into Nature so he can go from Bad to Good. No one would miss him.

17 posted on 08/27/2006 2:38:27 PM PDT by freedumb2003 (I LIKE you! When I am Ruler of Earth, yours will be a quick and painless death)
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To: Snickering Hound
One thing about Pianka: He's no purist. He makes $110,000 a year in his tenured position but donates little or none of it to environmental causes, saying the money would probably be misused.

He may be controversial, but he is not stupid.

18 posted on 08/27/2006 2:42:18 PM PDT by operation clinton cleanup (Assistant to the traveling secretary.)
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To: Snickering Hound

If population grows, then either productivity must increase or what we have now gets divided up into smaller pieces.

If your child makes a contribution to production in the future, then great -- there's is no problem. But if your child grows up simply consuming what the rest of us produce, then that is a problem because there is less per person than before.




19 posted on 08/27/2006 2:49:08 PM PDT by mc6809e
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To: Snickering Hound

Notice he said "I actually think the world will be much better off when only 10 percent or 20 percent of us are left".
What! "When 20 percent of US are left"?

"US"

I rest my case!


20 posted on 08/27/2006 2:54:05 PM PDT by MondoQueen
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