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Dr. Doom speaks his mind AN OVERPOPULATED EARTH?
Houston Chronicle ^ | 8-27-06 | LISA SANDBERG

Posted on 08/27/2006 1:52:27 PM PDT by Snickering Hound

AUSTIN - When classes resume at the University of Texas at Austin this week, 90 impressionable undergrads will file into an ecology class taught by a chatty zoology professor known — not always out of earshot — as Dr. Doom.

His real name is Eric Pianka, and students enrolled in his Ecology, Evolution and Society course will hear a sad synopsis of Earth's vanishing species and habitats — coupled with an apocalyptic warning about humans racing obliviously toward the edge of a high cliff.

If he models his lectures on previous ones, Pianka may remark that the planet would be better off without 90 percent of the humans who now populate it — no offense to anyone in particular.

"We should have done something about our population 25 or 30 years ago," the Denton A. Cooley Centennial Professor of Zoology said during a recent interview at his university office.

"Now we're going to have to go into a collapse. It's going to be very painful. The death rate is going to have to exceed the birth rate, we're going to have famines, civilizations are going to fall apart."

Such views have turned Pianka, a 67-year-old lizard expert, into one of UT's biggest public relations headaches.

It started last spring, when Pianka gave two academic audiences the same doomsday speech he's been delivering for years. Only this time, a reporter happened to be present and turned Pianka's remarks into a story in the Seguin Gazette-Enterprise.

News services picked it up, the blog world went crazy, and pretty soon, Pianka was being reported to the FBI as a terror threat. The FBI saw no need to launch a formal investigation, but agents did meet with the professor to discuss the death threats that poured in.

Unflattering op-ed pieces and news stories appeared nationwide. The Boston Globe likened him to a "zealot in scientific garb."

Loved or hated, Pianka is a scientist with stellar credentials who uses his podium to advance ideas that can challenge, enlighten, frighten and offend — sometimes all at once.

In March, just before the headlines erupted, the Texas Academy of Science named him its Distinguished Scientist for 2006; now the organization won't comment on his selection or any aspect of the controversy, said its president, David Marsh.

Pianka's employer has stood behind him. In a sense, Pianka states what many scientists have been saying for decades: Exploding human populations, particularly in developing countries, coupled with voracious consumption patterns in developed ones, put great strain on Earth and its resources, which in turn create conditions ripe for wars, famines and environmental catastrophes.

Pianka might be more blunt than others, said his boss, Robert Jansen, UT's chairman of Integrative Biology, who called Pianka one of the department's "most senior faculty members with a long and distinguished career in both research and teaching."

It's Pianka's willingness to attack all manner of subjects, including organized religion and babies, that lands him in so much trouble.

He believes in population limits, lauds China for its one-child policy and says the U.S. government has it all wrong: It should be taxing people for having children, not rewarding them with tax breaks.

Pianka insists he doesn't advocate the mass killing of people; it's merely an inevitability.

But, as he writes in The Vanishing Book of Life on Earth, conditions "are going to get better after the collapse because humans won't be able to decimate the Earth so much."

"And I actually think the world will be much better off when only 10 percent or 20 percent of us are left. It would give wildlife a chance to recover — we won't need conservation biologists anymore. Things are going to get better for the denizens of Earth as they deteriorate for humans."

As an unabashed, unapologetic nature lover, Pianka argues humans should be stewards of the Earth, not conquerors. He takes the biblical book of Genesis to task for encouraging the idea that humans should multiply and have dominion over the land.

In his most cynical moment while interviewed, he described people as "wicked" but quickly added, "Oh, that's going to get me in trouble."

"This is not politically correct stuff," he acknowledged, sitting in the cluttered university office he has worked in for 38 years.

Family members have urged him to just stick to the facts, with no editorials, to separate the science from the philosophy. Pianka's response: "I can't separate it."

"Humans are at the pinnacle of evolution," he continued. "We're at the top of the food chain. We're able to do anything we want. We can knock down trees, level mountains, distill seawater. A puny man can take a chain saw and cut down a redwood or harpoon a whale. Nothing is inviolate. ... It's all disappearing before our eyes."

Paul Ehrlich, professor of population studies at Stanford University who in 1968 wrote The Population Bomb, a best-seller that warned of — some say exaggerated — the threats posed by the growth of human numbers, urged Pianka to hang in there.

Ehrlich, too, received his share of nasty letters, harassing phone calls and protests when his book was published. But that year the human population stood at 3.5 billion. With nearly 6.5 billion people now on the planet, the problem is infinitely more relevant, he said.

C. Herb Ward, who teaches in the department of ecology and evolutionary biology at Rice University, said there is widespread agreement in the scientific community that humans have placed great stress on the natural environment.

"Man hasn't helped the ecology," he said. "I think most ecologists would say the world is overpopulated."

But the conclusions one draws from that assessment — whether and how to reduce population growth, who's to blame for the current state of affairs — are value judgments, Ward said.

They are value judgments Pianka is quite comfortable making.

"I think we're going to be cavemen again because we're too stupid to head it off," he said.

And his are value judgments some are quite comfortable attacking. One critic who attended one of his speeches was quoted in a blog saying it reminded him of a "futuristic science fiction movie with a crazed scientist planning the death of humanity."

Father Dave Farnum, a priest at the on-campus University Catholic Center, said Pianka's views don't mesh with Catholicism, but Farnum wasn't holding it against him.

"This is a secular university, and God bless America for him being able to speak his mind," Farnum said.

For a guy with gloomy views, Pianka is quite pleasant to be around. He is garrulous, quick to offer iced tea to a visitor and eager to show off the 18 bison he keeps as pets on his 184-acre property near Dripping Springs, where he lives alone in a simple stone cottage he built.

He has white hair, a full white beard and walks with a slight limp after being gored last spring by one of his buffaloes.

For the record, he's not advocating people kill themselves for the sake of the planet. And no, he's not offering his own life, either, as some of his harsher critics have demanded.

"That's nonsense. I'm just saying the tidal wave is coming," Pianka said.

One thing about Pianka: He's no purist. He makes $110,000 a year in his tenured position but donates little or none of it to environmental causes, saying the money would probably be misused.

His two adult daughters, whom he adores, are proof that he did not have himself sterilized as a youth. He drives 70 miles a day back and forth to work, though he does so in a Toyota Prius. He's got air conditioning throughout his house.

He says he tries to reduce his imprint on the Earth, but not as much as some of his friends, who've replaced their cars with bikes. In the end, Pianka said, it doesn't really matter.

"In truth, it backfires. It's kind of like crews cleaning up the highways. All it does is encourage people to toss their (trash) out. When you walk or ride a bike or drive a Prius, all you do is encourage some (expletive) out there to drive a Hummer or an Excursion."

Pianka grew up in Yreka, Calif., in the foothills of Mount Shasta, a few miles south of Oregon. His father worked in the surrounding gold mines and lumber mills. Pianka said he spent every minute he could outside, observing nature and watching the environment deteriorate.

Today, he mourns the disappearance of animals in the Hill Country, where real estate development is rapid. He used to count 18 species of snakes when he bought his property in 1978. He now counts four. Even the rattlesnakes are gone. Lizard species have similarly vanished.

In a third-floor science lecture hall this week, he will share with first- and second-year students a little of what's been lost. He might tell them humans could have been godlike but instead turned greedy and trampled what they should have left alone. He believes it.


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To: Snickering Hound
> "Now we're going to have to go into a collapse. It's going to be very painful. The death rate is going to have to exceed the birth rate, we're going to have famines, civilizations are going to fall apart."

Sounds like Kodos the Executioner from Star Trek.

"The revolution is successful. But survival depends on drastic measures. Your continued existence represents a threat to the well-being of society. Your lives mean slow death to the more valued members of the colony. Therefore I have no alternative but to sentence you to death. Your execution is so ordered, signed Kodos, Governor of Tarsus IV."
-excerpt from Kodos' speech to the 4,000 people he murdered

21 posted on 08/27/2006 3:05:51 PM PDT by NewJerseyJoe (Rat mantra: "Facts are meaningless! You can use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true!")
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To: operation clinton cleanup

Of course he's an idiot! This is like "greeting from the fever swamp" type of stuff. This whacko enviro-lefty business is ridiculous and no pro-family conservative can even entertain such junk.


22 posted on 08/27/2006 3:09:09 PM PDT by Rawlings (Tipton Time!)
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To: Snickering Hound
This is the sort of twisted philosophy that could only develop in overcrowded large cities. I lived in Canada's far north for a long time -- there's more than ten square miles per person in the northern territories. Overpopulation isn't at the top of anyone's list of problems.

The population is too large to be sustained by hunting and gathering -- but, we have developed better technologies to feed ourselves. All these neo-Malthusian doom-sayers have failed to consider technology change; or to begin to imagine how adaptable humans can be.
23 posted on 08/27/2006 3:11:13 PM PDT by USFRIENDINVICTORIA
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To: Rawlings
I was referring to him not giving money to enviro whackjob groups.
24 posted on 08/27/2006 3:11:34 PM PDT by operation clinton cleanup (Assistant to the traveling secretary.)
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To: A message

Bump to you Message


25 posted on 08/27/2006 3:17:12 PM PDT by nomorelurker (wetraginhell)
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To: Tahoe3002

Do the Liberals first, then we won't have to listen to so much complaing and whining.


26 posted on 08/27/2006 3:22:09 PM PDT by rock58seg (A minority of Republican RINO's are making a lot of Republicans look like fools.)
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To: Snickering Hound

O-O-O-O Kay..... I am an employer. Just what do you expect me to do with an 'Ecology, Environment and Society' trained person?????????


27 posted on 08/27/2006 3:22:26 PM PDT by hardworking (Elect a Democrat as President so a Muslim can say the benediction at the inaugeration)
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To: cripplecreek

Nailed it.


28 posted on 08/27/2006 3:22:46 PM PDT by NewRomeTacitus (Americans First.)
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To: Snickering Hound

OK, listen up all Comrade Democrats. DO NOT, repeat, DO NOT have children. ABORT, ABORT, ABORT. (sarc.)


29 posted on 08/27/2006 3:24:13 PM PDT by hardworking (Elect a Democrat as President so a Muslim can say the benediction at the inaugeration)
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To: Snickering Hound

Just off the top of my head I'd say 25% of the earth's population should be dead immediately due to them being bad people. Give or take 5%.


30 posted on 08/27/2006 3:28:55 PM PDT by KoRn
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To: HungarianGypsy

I am not that much younger than Dr. Doom and I have been hearing this same stuff my whole adult life. In the meantime, the part of the U.S. I grew up in is now classified as 'frontier' because it has fewer than 2 people per square mile.

There are only a few parts of the world where population growth is still out of control. Africa, for one. Most Muslim countries as well. The rate of population growth is way down in most of South America and even in Mexico. I would not be surprised if Mexico's birthrate declines to a point that they start encouraging people to come back in a decade or two.


31 posted on 08/27/2006 3:39:40 PM PDT by goldfinch
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To: Snickering Hound
Pianka, a 67-year-old lizard expert

Why not? Paul Ehrlich, the last generation's Dr Doom, was a butterfly man. (He said all the same things about the "population bomb" apocalypse forty years ago). Amazing how one's expertise proliferates to the far horizons as soon as he gets tenure at some sucker academic outfit.

32 posted on 08/27/2006 3:43:08 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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To: Harmless Teddy Bear

For a guy with gloomy views, Pianka is quite pleasant to be around.

Why is that surprising? Reporters as a group hate the human race and so throw themselves lovingly at the feet of anyone who wants us all to die.

If I were being paid a lifetime sinecure of $110,000 per year for doing nothing, I would be a lot more pleasant to be around.

33 posted on 08/27/2006 3:53:02 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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To: Tahoe3002

Why don't we start with the liberals?


34 posted on 08/27/2006 3:58:31 PM PDT by KingofQue
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To: Sooner1938

We could take the whole population of the earth today and everyone could have their own square foot in........Alaska?....no..in Montana?.......no....the answer is Rhode Island.


35 posted on 08/27/2006 4:03:01 PM PDT by Heman11
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To: Snickering Hound
"We should have done something about our population 25 or 30 years ago," the Denton A. Cooley Centennial Professor of Zoology said during a recent interview at his university office.

Still waiting for him to lead by example. That's the problem with jihadists and leftists - they want everyone else to kill themselves, but they sure as heck won't.
36 posted on 08/27/2006 4:42:19 PM PDT by DustyMoment (FloriDUH - proud inventors of pregnant/hanging chads and judicide!!)
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To: Sooner1938
I happen to agree with Dr. Doom. We DO have way too many people on this earth. Years ago, I wrote a college term paper in which I said that I would like to have seen the earth before man appeared. Surely, it would have been a more beautiful place.

Buh-bye!!!
37 posted on 08/27/2006 4:43:19 PM PDT by DustyMoment (FloriDUH - proud inventors of pregnant/hanging chads and judicide!!)
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To: Sooner1938
Years ago, I wrote a college term paper in which I said that I would like to have seen the earth before man appeared. Surely, it would have been a more beautiful place.

Whoa there! Nature doesn't have a monopoly on beauty.

What would the Earth look like without soaring bridges like the Golden Gate, dazzling skylines like new York's, stunning monuments like the Pyramids, the bright green cornfields of the Midwest and assorted engineering marvels everywhere?

Man has produced a major share of Earth's beauty.

And, given our heritage, I ask you how is a field of golden wheat somehow inferior to a field of prairie grass?

38 posted on 08/27/2006 4:58:31 PM PDT by okie01 (The Mainstream Media: IGNORANCE ON PARADE)
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To: freedumb2003

Have any of you naysayers considered the possibility that he may be right?

The biggest problem with the earth's population is that those who can least afford kids are having the most. And all those Third Worlders are invading the developed world.

Locate a copy of the book "Camp of the Saints". It'll scare the hell out of you.


39 posted on 08/27/2006 4:59:41 PM PDT by Sooner1938 (Disgusted)
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To: Snickering Hound
Paul Ehrlich, professor of population studies at Stanford University who in 1968 wrote The Population Bomb, a best-seller that warned of — some say exaggerated — the threats posed by the growth of human numbers, urged Pianka to hang in there.
Ehrlich, too, received his share of nasty letters, harassing phone calls and protests when his book was published. But that year the human population stood at 3.5 billion. With nearly 6.5 billion people now on the planet, the problem is infinitely more relevant, he said.

They are using Paul Erlhich as a source. The same Paul Ehrlich who predicted massive famine in Western Europe by the 1980's? The same guy who predicted food riots in the US? There's a source for you.

40 posted on 08/27/2006 5:17:08 PM PDT by sharkhawk (Play me a dirge matey)
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