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It's Gingrich's to Lose (Zogby '08 White House Poll Shows Tancredo 4th)
US News and World Report ^ | August 28, 2006 | Paul Bedard

Posted on 08/27/2006 9:01:53 AM PDT by gopwinsin04

Washington Whispers

It's Gingrich's to Lose in 2008

Sorry, Hillary. And Big John, you might have missed your chance in 2000.

That's because a new and innovative poll from John Zogby about 2008 presidential candidates finds former Republican Speaker Newt Gingrich way out front of fellow GOP-ers like Sen. John McCain and also finds moderates like former Virginia Gov. Mark Warner far ahead of libs like Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton.

Here's the unusual thing about the Zogby poll released to Whispers: When questioning likely primary voters, only brief biographies and not names were given.

In other words, voters picked the one with the best experience. Without her name recognition working for her, Clinton came in a miserable sixth out of 10.

"It looks like the Democrats want to grab the middle," says Zogby, who says outside-the-beltway Democrats lean moderate.

Surprises on the GOP side: Harsh immigration critic Rep. Tom Tancredo ranks fourth, showing the power of the anti-immigrant issue.

Is the poll important? Big time. In 1999, Zogby's "blind bios" poll identified "maverick" McCain as a very attractive candidate in primary states long before he almost knocked off George W. Bush.

The Democratic order and percentage: Warner, 14.8; retired Gen. Wesley Clark, 14.2; Wisconsin Sen. Russ Feingold, 12.2; Indiana Sen. Evan Bayh, 11.1; former Sen. John Edwards, 10.4; Clinton, 5.6; New Mexico Gov. Bill Richardson, 5.3; former Alaska Sen. Mike Gravel, 4.9; Massachusetts Sen. John Kerry, 4.9; Iowa Gov. Tom Vilsack, 3; Delaware Sen. Joe Biden, 2.8.

The GOP rankings: Gingrich, 21.4; McCain, 13.3; former New York Mayor Rudy Giuliani, 11.2; Tancredo, 9.9; Nebraska Sen. Chuck Hagel, 6.1; Arkansas Gov. Mike Huckabee, 5.8; Senate Majority Leader Bill Frist, 5.6; Virginia Sen. George Allen, 4.9; Kansas Sen. Sam Brownback,4.3; Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney, 3.8; New York Gov. George Pataki, 2.8.

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TOPICS: Extended News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2008; 2008polls; allen2008; gingrich2008; hillary2008; mccain2008; newtforfoxnewspundit; warner2008
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To: saveliberty

Perhaps Zogby's wishful thinking is the fuel on the fire of 'stolen elections'. The Dems think they are going to win and then when they don't they whine 'it was stolen'. Along with bogus exit polls on election day.


221 posted on 08/27/2006 2:55:18 PM PDT by originalbuckeye
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To: jrooney

The MSM will savage any Republican--including their present darling, McCain. He'll find out they don't really love him after all.


222 posted on 08/27/2006 3:03:53 PM PDT by Conservativegreatgrandma
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To: Biblebelter

"As a Republican voter, I do not think that I could go to the polls and vote for Giuliani or McCain."
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My thoughts exactly....which leaves Newt as my choice.


223 posted on 08/27/2006 3:09:55 PM PDT by cowdog77
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To: originalbuckeye

Or a manifestation of groups derangement by narcissism


224 posted on 08/27/2006 3:56:13 PM PDT by saveliberty (I'm a Bushbot and a Snowflake :-)
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To: gopwinsin04

Zogby has too many Muslim relatives to trust his polls and he has been nothing but wrong for some time now.


225 posted on 08/27/2006 3:59:36 PM PDT by A CA Guy (God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: gopwinsin04
Newt for Pres and Tancredo for the veep position. This will give him positioning for 2016. Unless Newt wants to pull in Condi as his veep.
226 posted on 08/27/2006 4:19:31 PM PDT by ExSoldier (Democracy is 2 wolves and a lamb voting on dinner. Liberty is a well armed lamb contesting the vote.)
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To: heaven_bound_by_grace
I guess I wasn't the only one that missed your "sarcasm", eh? :-)

Stupidity loves company?

228 posted on 08/27/2006 6:03:06 PM PDT by madprof98
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To: jeremiah; jrooney; skinkinthegrass
The fact is that many of us looked at Clinton and muttered to ourselves, "He can never win, he has too much baggage". We were wrong...

One thing has become clear to me over the years: One person's indiscretions are pretty much the same as everyone else's indiscretions. In a society where the divorce rate is over 50% and 1/3 of the babies are aborted, Newt's baggage is not that much different than the average Joe, or Jane's.
229 posted on 08/27/2006 6:20:34 PM PDT by babygene
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist
Interesting info.

Newt is brilliant, imho, his strategy and hard work brought the conservatives in the house their first majority in over 40 years or so.

But Newt is not an ethical man in his private life and this matters to me.

Don't know much about Tancredo except that he is outspoken on the immigration issue, something sorely needed in our nation as things sit today.

Don't know much about Rudy's ethical bearing either-but truly believe no one would be stronger on our determination to keep our nation secure and to slaughter terrorists as necessary.

230 posted on 08/27/2006 6:49:42 PM PDT by Republic (I have AMAZING CONFIDENCE and TRUST in our PRESIDENT! I LOVE HIM and his ENTIRE TEAM!)
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To: babygene
We were wrong...Newt's baggage is not that much different than the average Joe, or Jane's.

True.....I think (& blame) the American Public Inattention. :^(
....the American Public, don't realize the outright falsehoods ('RAT Talking points') advanced by the Drive-By Media.

231 posted on 08/27/2006 7:11:14 PM PDT by skinkinthegrass (Just b/c your paranoid; Doesn't mean they're NOT out to get you. :^)
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To: gopwinsin04
Most, if not all the big name front runners, have been divorced - even George Allen.

Newt would be fine by me, but he has such a big negative image with enough Americans that he's probably a non-starter.

232 posted on 08/27/2006 7:22:12 PM PDT by muleskinner
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To: Invisible Gorilla
"The situation with the first wife is disgusting, but both Newt and Giuliani bedded and courted their current wives while still married to their previous ones. If either were to be nominated, that would be a lethal revelation in the hands of the Democrats. America will not elect home wrecker for First Lady."

Actually, the allegation was that Rudy was carrying on with a female aide when his first marriage busted up. Don't see his current wife as a 'home wrecker', because by the time she showed up it was already wrecked....

that may not be my cup of tea, but I am not gonna start throwing those stones and neither should you.

Feminaziism means that perfectly good men can find themselves screwed in a bad marriage...

233 posted on 08/27/2006 7:30:05 PM PDT by Al Simmons (Why Consider Rudy in 2008?...because National Security should not be left to children...)
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To: gopwinsin04
Let it be so. The GOP can't be stupid enough to nominate Guiliani or McCain.

Wait a minute. What am I saying. There's a reason The Republican Party is also known as The Stupid Party.

234 posted on 08/27/2006 7:32:09 PM PDT by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all.)
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To: Republic
Today, Newt is the guy for me. I'm about as right wing Christian extremist as you can get, but this isn't about electing a pope. This country won't survive if we don't have someone with patriotic common sense. Guliani wants homo marriage, and abortion. I put Newt above that. All most of us really know about Tancredo is his border stance. Mc Cain is really a Democrat and the others are just wanna be's. I've looked at the field and it pretty much sucks. Newt is "Founding Father" material if you read his stuff. I don't think we are going to draft Anne Coulter, so I'll settle for Newt over Hildabeast or the other travelers any day.

Guliani's divorce wasn't all that clean either, and he's a Catholic. I've been married for 35 years to the same women, but that hardly makes me presidential material. McCain is on his second helping also. Tom Delay is about as Christian a man as there is, but you see what the MSM can make him look like. BTW, If Delay would run, I would vote for him also. Guliani WILL NOT WIN THE SOUTH! If it's Rudy or Mc Cain, I predict a humiliating defeat, not even close.

BTW, I have pics of Guliani in drag. I can't imagine how he could be president with those floating around. You remember what the Repub's did with the Kerry "bunny suit" pics?

Newt for Prez!

235 posted on 08/27/2006 8:15:14 PM PDT by chuckles
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To: chuckles
One would have to be absolutely demented to not choose Newt over hitlery.

But I believe Rudy is brilliant, a man not easily fooled and a man with up close and personal experience with terrorism.

Newt is deeply brilliant. A true historian, a scholar and the author of our majority in the house.

I just do not believe that Newt could beat hitlery, nationally. I don't. The stuff about his wife and his girlfriend (now his wife) would kill him off...not to mention how much the libs hate him.

Rudy could pull from both parties, tho I do not like his pro-abortion stance and am unfamiliar with his stance on homosexuals.

The big stuff to me is security and our Supreme Court nominees.

236 posted on 08/27/2006 8:24:08 PM PDT by Republic (I have AMAZING CONFIDENCE and TRUST in our PRESIDENT! I LOVE HIM and his ENTIRE TEAM!)
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To: Republic
Maybe I don't know all the dirt on Newt's divorce, but all divorces usually don't go well. Half the people in the US have been divorced now. I do know that Guliani marches with the homo's every year and votes for as many dead babies as we can kill anyway we can kill them. Newt would do better than Guliani in a nationwide election. IMHO, Guliani will never get the nod from the Republicans anyway.

Newt was an Army brat so I don't doubt his bonafides with security, and Newt knows what a Supreme Ct judge should look like. Guliani would just pick another Ruth Bader Ginzberg to keep aborting babies and get homosexual marriage legal. It's beyond me why you think Guliani would be tough on terrorists. His claim to fame was he was a better mayor than Dingle. Whoo hooo!

Make a note of this post. I'll bet within a week of Guliani looking like he might be a front runner, pics of him in drag will be all over the tube. His gallivanting with the queers in the gay day parades will cover the airtime.

237 posted on 08/27/2006 11:51:34 PM PDT by chuckles
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To: nonliberal
I'm reading Ron Chernow's book on Alexander Hamilton right now. Gingrich is today's Hamilton. Driven, brilliant, but capable of horrid lapses in judgment.

That is not saying that I wouldn't support the guy.

Well Stated!

BTW, wasn't Curtis LeMay the guy that made Chesty Puller, Doug McArthur, and John Wayne look like wimps?

238 posted on 08/28/2006 5:21:27 AM PDT by Retired COB (Still mad about Campaign Finance Reform)
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To: Retired COB
If we had a Curtis LeMay around today the class of 2016 would be asking "What was an Arab?". I don't think he made MacArthur 'look like a wimp', IMHO both of them knew how to win a total war. While I'm not the only one to second guess the bombing of Dresden, the fact is that LeMay understood 'total war'; I wish his ghost would come back and kick Rumsfield, Rice and the president in their collective butts.
One mosque, one nuke.
239 posted on 08/28/2006 6:28:00 AM PDT by RedStateRocker (Nuke Mecca, Deport all illegals, abolish the IRS, ATF and DEA)
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To: Retired COB

LeMay was the main proponent of "morale bombing." That is, targeting civilian populations to weaken the enemy's resolve to fight the war. He also advocated nuking Cuba during the missile crisis.


240 posted on 08/28/2006 7:35:01 AM PDT by nonliberal (Graduate: Curtis E. LeMay School of International Relations)
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