Breaking Fox - Kidnapped Fox journalists released

Fox News | 8-27-06 | Fox News

[Crazieman]

Per Fox News

[MinuteGal]

Play it again, Maestro. You're 100% tuned in.

An acurate comment.

Leni

[sauropod]

I don't think we here or anybody else should be condemning them as if we were confident that we would somehow say and do the "right thing" when the time came.

Actually, I grieve for them.

[Carry_Okie]

We differ Jeff. I risk my neck in what I do fairly regularly. As I study the word I'm learning that the one thing in this battle with Satan we don't want to be telling our enemy is that our faith isn't worth our lives.

Just from a logical perspective, it is the Islamists's belief that we don't stand for anything that gives radical Islam its energy and its conviction in its ultimate triumph. So with this forced "conversion" how many Muzzies will be shown that tape. Given the grinding realities of their lives, what will their conclusions be? How many more in the West will now die because they see how weak we really are?

This war is far more than a fight on a battlefield; it is a spiritual war. If we don't learn that soon, the price of our consequent waffling will be far higher.

Israel itself would not exist without such conviction. It was the Jews of post-war Europe, who in large numbers were willing to die before being repatriated, that convinced the nations of the world to vote for its creation in the UN. After experiencing the holocaust, they knew what the real stakes are in life. Their progeny have clearly forgotten.

veronica talks about hiding behind a screen while the nation of Israel hides behind nukes fearing "world opinion" too much to use even their conventional power. There would be no eretz Isra'el had her forebears betrayed a similar lack of conviction. Were she actually reading Torah, she would know there would have been no Isra'el in the first place were the followers of Moshe similarly convicted.

We keep talking about this war as if it should be a matter of life and death for civilization. Well?

[MinuteGal]

See my # 779.

It's Sunday morning, but spare the sermons in today's reality world of terrorism.

There are others here just as pious as you make yourself out to be, and just as capable of making a decision that they'd rather be around to FIGHT the infidels than to meekly offer up their heads to prove a point.

Leni

[Howlin]

What happened here? I just got online.

Were they released and did they claim some kind of conversion on tape?

[bonfire]

Yes.

[Brytani]

This isn't the first nor will it be the last time I group of Muslims will kidnap non-muslims and "publicly" force them to denounce America, Christianity and Israel. Some will die even after doing so. Others will be set free depending on how much pressure the captives feel.

I don't think it upped the ante as much as you do. In fact, in Gaza at least, I think it gave a bit more protection to journalists at least. It's rare indeed to get the Pali government (banana as it is) high-level clerics, leaders of Hammas and Hezbollah all together to publicly condemn any violent action against westerners, especially an American. In fact, this is the first case I can think of it.

There are thousands, if not millions of Muslims who believe the only reason they are on earth and will reach heaven and Allah is to convert, by force if needed, all the infidels they can. They were a threat prior to this kidnapping and will be a threat after.

In this case condemnation by islamic and muslim leaders was too vocal and public. They won't get much traction out of the conversion video simply because of that.

[Brytani]

In other words, you have no point except to made inane rants. Go find another sandbox....

[MinuteGal]

Coerced conversion, of course. They're now in Israel, safe and sound.

Leni

[aculeus]

(Which reminds me of a knee-slapper of PC insanity, in which a well-known newspaper "corrected" a story about race issues in South Africa. When it went to press, it made reference to "White South Africans" and "African-American South Africans." I kid you not.)

Geraldo once referred to a black Brit as "African American".

[bonfire]

Instead of being THRILLED they are released and safe, we are trying to decide if they will burn in hell for eternity because they "converted" to Islam.

hohum

[Salvation]

Thank you, God, for the release of Steve and Olaf.

[veronica]

You are making a specious argument. The deaths of two journalists for refusing to make a faux conversion won't win the WOT. In fact the terrosrists show again what savages they are by imposing their will on these two. It's the overall BS about Islam being a "religion of peace" which hampers our ability to win the war.

[bonfire]

Amen.

[pillut48]

Fox just showed a video clip of Steve Centanni going into a hotel and being grabbed in a bear hug, tears in his eyes, and Olaf right behind him, with this fiercely angry look on his face and pushing people off of him, then the two of them rushing up the stairs of the hotel--thank you God they are safe!!! :*)

[pillut48]

Freddie Phelps and his kin?

[tsmith130]

Yes, they were released and yes, they made a coerced conversion. See GRRRR's post #746 for text of their "statement of conversion".

There are some here that believe they sit in judgment of these men's souls. I had no idea I was among such high and mighty.

[sauropod]

Leni.

Suggest you read the whole thread before commenting.

'Pod.

[jhw61]

O'h Praise the Lord. I'm jumping up and down and crying here at my computer. This is absolutely fantastic news! Yes this is fantastic news!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[bonfire]

I happened to wake up at 5am this morning and turned on FOX. I had the same reaction as you!