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Lights Out: My Two Cents on What We Stand to Lose
Spare Change | August 25, 2006 | David J. Aland

Posted on 08/26/2006 7:28:47 PM PDT by Natty Bumppo@frontier.net

When the Roman Empire fell – and scholars still debate how hard, and why – much was lost, including arts, literacy, public works, and the rule of law; but the most significant was the loss of commerce. The archeological record shows a drastic drop in quantity and quality of goods and materials in the 5th century, indicating the loss of artisans and skills. Without the umbrella of security, commerce faltered, forcing regions to become more self-reliant. Specialized skills fell aside as sustainment skills became critical. Artisans and artists were replaced by the jack-of-all-trades. It would remain thus until the relative safety in the Renaissance made commerce and specialization practical once more. All of this because trade was no longer secure enough to turn a profit.

It may sound overly alarmist to say, but we’re not so far from that situation today. There are certainly many significant differences between Roman governance and our present-day global village, but in some ways these are more superficial than we might wish to think.

The United States is not an empire but has a global influence more imperial than any in prior history. Modern communications are far more ubiquitous and persistent than 1,500 years ago, and the means of production are more broadly distributed. But all of these advantages might also be weaknesses if attacked correctly.

The devastation caused by Hurricane Katrina clearly demonstrated that the trappings of civilization are too easily stripped away, and that such losses too easily lead to the collapse of civilized behavior amongst survivors. It is not hard to see that a greater catastrophe in America could result in similarly feral outcomes.

When security is uncertain, commerce suffers. The porous borders of Southern California result in depressed property values and investment in the border counties. The lack of stability in Haiti, Lebanon, or Burma curtails investment in those regions. The increased cost of providing security in our ports and airports is passed on to shippers and manufacturers, reducing productivity and import/exports. Even the duty-free shops in the airports that sell liquid luxuries like Scotch and perfume are losing.

All of these are minor influences compared to a sudden or catastrophic loss of security or order within the United States. A dirty bomb, a not-so dirty bomb, a major biological event, or even the loss of free movement within the country could all result in a rapid collapse of civility and civilized behavior. Many analysts believe that our enemies in Iran, Korea, or hiding amongst us in anonymous cells may already have the means to strike such a blow, or will have them soon.

Imagine the consequences of massive power outages in the East Coast industrial corridor or the loss of a major metropolitan region. The death tolls will strain civil support; fewer goods and materials will lead to hoarding and theft; opportunistic lawlessness, such as looting will rise; and there will be a devastating loss of trust: the trust of Americans in their government, and the trust of the rest of the world in America as a stable and generally beneficial influence.

In the aftermath of such an event, trade within the U. S. would shrivel and trade in and out of the U. S. would falter. It would be an isolationists dream – the rapid redeployment of our attentions inward, the rest of the world be damned. Any number of would-be hegemons will step forward to fill the global vacuum.

This is what the Islamic fascists are hoping to see. Loss of trade is not an issue for a nation that has the one resource that everyone needs, and enough of it to be self-sufficient. Loss of the arts, free movement, and free expression are not of concern to those who believe such things are sinful and dangerous. The Goths and Vandals cared not for the architecture and aqueducts of Rome – the Islamofascists are not concerned about democracy or security.

It is said the Roman Empire collapsed when ordinary Romans no longer believed it should be defended. The average Roman citizen never saw it coming, any more than the average American might now, but was consumed with local concerns and transient issues, much as now.

We have faced geographically diverse fascism before, and we almost waited until it was too late. It has only been a few decades since World War II. It was a much longer climb back to the light from the Dark Ages, the same period of history these Islamicists revere. We need to keep the bigger picture in view, while there is still enough light to see it, and act before it is once again almost too late to do something.

David J. Aland is a retired Naval Officer with a graduate degree in National Security Affairs from the U. S. Naval War College.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; War on Terror; Your Opinion/Questions
KEYWORDS: americanjihad; civilization; dhimmis; islam; islamofascism; islamofascismjihad; islamsucks; jihad; life; romanempire
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1 posted on 08/26/2006 7:28:48 PM PDT by Natty Bumppo@frontier.net
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To: Natty Bumppo@frontier.net
Specialized skills fell aside as sustainment skills became critical. Artisans and artists were replaced by the jack-of-all-trades.

This will be the moment I was born for...
2 posted on 08/26/2006 7:34:51 PM PDT by WorkingClassFilth (Yeah, I've got an axe to grind...what else would you use on Leftists?)
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To: Natty Bumppo@frontier.net

Pretty much nailed it.


3 posted on 08/26/2006 7:35:27 PM PDT by BipolarBob (Yes I backed over the vampire, but I swear I looked in my rearview mirror.)
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To: Natty Bumppo@frontier.net

In other words: Our Freedom.....Our Society.....Our Way of Life.

No biggie to the Anti-Military, Anti-Constitution, Anti-America RATs that infest our country.


4 posted on 08/26/2006 7:35:31 PM PDT by Howie66 ("America will never seek a permission slip to defend the security of our people.")
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To: Natty Bumppo@frontier.net

Great read! Thanks for posting it.


5 posted on 08/26/2006 7:45:14 PM PDT by KoRn
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To: WorkingClassFilth

"This will be the moment I was born for..."

What a great comment. "It's an ill wind..."

When I was young and credit was not an easy thing to come by, I made old things last and thrived. As credit got loose young guys with new toys passed me by. Maybe I'll share your moment.


6 posted on 08/26/2006 7:55:45 PM PDT by gas0linealley
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To: gas0linealley

Lights Out indeed.

7 posted on 08/26/2006 7:57:51 PM PDT by zarf
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To: zarf

Old guys shouldn't wear shorts.


8 posted on 08/26/2006 8:01:09 PM PDT by gas0linealley
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To: Natty Bumppo@frontier.net

ummmmm obviously this guy has never looked for a home in San Diego. :)

"When security is uncertain, commerce suffers. The porous borders of Southern California result in depressed property values and investment in the border counties."


9 posted on 08/26/2006 8:06:04 PM PDT by dion
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To: Natty Bumppo@frontier.net

If we are to survive the terrorist threat, Iran must be obliterated by whatever means necessary and it must be very soon! The ghost of Neville Chamberlain rides before us!


10 posted on 08/26/2006 8:10:50 PM PDT by Doctor Don
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To: Natty Bumppo@frontier.net

Thomas Cahill has a book, 'How the Irish Saved Civilization,the Untold Story of Ireland's Heroic Role from the Fall of Rome to the Rise of Medieval Europe'.
This article states some of the exact points Mr. Cahill made is his discription of Rome's failures.


11 posted on 08/26/2006 8:13:29 PM PDT by mingwah
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To: WorkingClassFilth; Natty Bumppo@frontier.net
Specialized skills fell aside as sustainment skills became critical. Artisans and artists were replaced by the jack-of-all-trades.

Twelve hundred years or so later such a "jack of all trades" would be acclaimed as a Rennaisance man.

Many professions, medecine especially, have been ruined by the specialists who know next to nothing outside of their very narrow area of expertise. We need more jacks of all trades and the sooner the better.

12 posted on 08/26/2006 8:14:44 PM PDT by lightman (The Office of the Keys should be exercised as some ministry needs to be exorcised.)
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To: Natty Bumppo@frontier.net

Excellent post.


13 posted on 08/26/2006 8:15:04 PM PDT by Signalman
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To: Natty Bumppo@frontier.net
Loss of trade is not an issue for a nation that has the one resource that everyone needs, and enough of it to be self-sufficient.

There is no doubt the terrorists are the modern day barbarians. I think maybe we should consider liberating their oil before somebody gets hurt.

14 posted on 08/26/2006 8:19:08 PM PDT by oldbrowser (Good news is no news.)
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To: Natty Bumppo@frontier.net

btt


15 posted on 08/26/2006 8:21:02 PM PDT by beebuster2000
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To: Natty Bumppo@frontier.net

Bump


16 posted on 08/26/2006 8:22:52 PM PDT by Fiddlstix (Warning! This Is A Subliminal Tagline! Read it at your own risk!(Presented by TagLines R US))
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To: Natty Bumppo@frontier.net
I just turned down an all expenses paid trip across the fruited plain because of terrorism fears. Having 6 incidents with US flights on Friday pretty much forced my decision (well that and the fact that it looks like All Out War in the Middle East is now all but inevitable). I have decided to cancel all my nonessential flights. What the author describes may already be occurring.
17 posted on 08/26/2006 8:23:31 PM PDT by justa-hairyape
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To: mingwah
Does he talk about how the Roman emperors bought off idle, dependant welfare people in cities with bread and circuses? We are in danger of repeating that mistake. 28,000 Mexican gang members in LA.

Medieval Muslims effectively cut of the land routes to the far east that had been used for centuries and closed the Mediterranean to trade with their pirates. That stimulated the search for new trade routes.

18 posted on 08/26/2006 8:25:49 PM PDT by ClaireSolt (.)
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To: gas0linealley
If I may, I'd like to suggest that all may not be lost in the wake of the scenario the author suggests. The nation was founded largely though the toil of people who were, in fact, jacks of all trades. Up until the recent decades in the wake of WWII, Yankee ingenuity is mainly what gave us our progress, leadership and cultural identity. If, as the article opines, our demise may be at hand because of the loss of technically specialized, globalized and heavily energy dependent systems, this may be a jolt (granted a brutal one) that serves to recalibrate our national priorities and direction.

True enough, we would see significant upheaval like riots, crime waves and the like, but it is a certainty that the conditions that created the massive urban under-classes were, in fact, byproducts of rogue federalism built on the profitable specialization in the post-war economic boom. To a large extent, this comparitive advantage in American economic specialization has been monopolistic (and profitable) until the very recent past. Witht the rise of globalization, all bets are off anyway and our vaunted status is likely to be one of diminishing returns even if we continue to live in times of relative peace and security. In other words, the problem, according to this analysis, we now might face is generated by a very recent mutation of the corrupted system we wish to preserve - not an external, alien threat to traditional American values or intents. The solution, however bloody or painful, might just lie in excising this disorder from the body politic - even at the risk of civil strife and governmental collapse. Frankly, I can't imagine a better equipped nation of people to deal with a catastrophe of that magnitude.

BTW, Skeezix was a minor god.
19 posted on 08/26/2006 8:28:57 PM PDT by WorkingClassFilth (Yeah, I've got an axe to grind...what else would you use on Leftists?)
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To: WorkingClassFilth

Apparently thinking and writing number among your trades, Jack.

Here's lookin' at ya'.


20 posted on 08/26/2006 8:44:47 PM PDT by gas0linealley
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