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California Senate Passes Ballistics Identification Bill to Help Police Solve Gun Crimes - AB-352
U.S. Newswire on Yahoo ^ | 8/24/06 | U.S. Newswire

Posted on 08/24/2006 8:08:18 PM PDT by NormsRevenge

SACRAMENTO, Calif., Aug. 24 /U.S. Newswire/ -- With the support of forty-one police chiefs from around the state, the state senate today passed a bill (22-18) that will help police solve gun crimes and catch gun traffickers The bill, AB 352, requires that a new ballistics identification technology be required on all new semiautomatic handguns sold in California after 2008.

The new technology, microstamping, uses powerful lasers to make extremely precise, microscopic engravings on a handgun's firing pin or inside the firing chamber. These engravings reference the serial number of the handgun. When a bullet is fired from the handgun, the marks are transferred to the bullet casing. So when the police retrieve the bullet casing at a crime scene, they can quickly track down the legal owner of the handgun that fired it.

Assemblyman Paul Koretz (D-West Hollywood) is the lead sponsor on the bill, with the Coalition to Stop Handgun Violence, the organizational sponsor. A coalition of groups has been fighting to pass the bill since last year, including the Coalition to Stop Gun Violence, Legal Community Against Violence, Women Against Gun Violence, and the California Million Mom March Chapters along with their parent organization, the Brady Campaign.

Griffin Dix, the president of the California Million Mom March Chapters, stated, "Currently, no arrest is made in approximately 45 percent of all homicides in California because police lack the evidence they need. This bill will help police solve crime by providing them with new and meaningful leads for solving handgun crimes."

"On behalf of our law enforcement supporters and victims of crime we work with every day across the nation, I applaud the California State Senate for embracing this innovative technology. I'm hoping the Governor will listen to a fellow Republican and sign this bill once it passes," said Paul Helmke, the new president of the Brady Campaign to Prevent Gun Violence. Paul is a former three-term Republican Mayor of Fort Wayne, Indiana.

As the nation's largest, non-partisan, grassroots organization leading the fight to prevent gun violence, the Brady Campaign, working with its dedicated network of Million Mom March Chapters, is devoted to creating an America free from gun violence, where all Americans are safe at home, at school, at work, and in our communities.

http://www.usnewswire.com/


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Politics/Elections; US: California
KEYWORDS: ab352; ballistics; banglist; bradywatch; california; californication; callegislation; donutwatch; guncrimes; identification; libertarians; microstamping; passes; police; senate
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To: TangoLimaSierra

Yeah, that'll be helpful. Instead of having victims shot with 9's that they might survive, we'll have victims being gunned down with .44 magnums.


21 posted on 08/24/2006 8:31:13 PM PDT by ArmstedFragg
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To: Nathan Zachary
They just can't get it thru their heads that CRIMMINALS DO NOT OBEY THE LAW.

Maybe they really don't care about crime at all.

22 posted on 08/24/2006 8:31:29 PM PDT by MichiganConservative (Government IS the problem.)
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To: NormsRevenge

What happens when you change out the firing pin? It doesn't cost much at all, depending on the weapon, and takes about 5 minutes.


23 posted on 08/24/2006 8:34:45 PM PDT by KoRn
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To: Spktyr

what about the ten zillion guns on the street before '08? these liberals will never get it.


24 posted on 08/24/2006 8:38:31 PM PDT by bobby.223
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To: TangoLimaSierra

No they won't. They will use guns made before 2008. Besides its a California law, gun makers won't bother making auto loading handguns guns just for California. After 2008 if this law stands, you'll have to buy used autoloading handguns.


25 posted on 08/24/2006 8:40:51 PM PDT by Nathan Zachary
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To: NormsRevenge

I guess criminals will just have to get their guns illegaly now.


26 posted on 08/24/2006 8:41:16 PM PDT by Porterville (Hispanic Republican American Bush Supporter)
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To: KoRn

They'll probably require that the new firing pin be put into a gun and used to produce a few cases for the state. This will make it slower and more expensive to sell the things and thus more expensive to buy. The fewer people who can afford firearms, the better as an armed population might be more dangerous to the state.


27 posted on 08/24/2006 8:41:28 PM PDT by MichiganConservative (Government IS the problem.)
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To: MichiganConservative
I wrote:

the better as an armed population might be more dangerous to the state.

But the guns could just come in illegally from out of state. So maybe they just want to make things more inconvenient/expensive out of spite.

28 posted on 08/24/2006 8:43:03 PM PDT by MichiganConservative (Government IS the problem.)
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To: NormsRevenge
"With the support of forty-one police chiefs from around the state, the state senate today passed a bill (22-18)"

This is what I find alarming, since when did police pass laws in California? When did it become a police state? Police are employees, law enforcers, not lawmakers. This is unconstitutional.

29 posted on 08/24/2006 8:43:58 PM PDT by Nathan Zachary
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To: bobby.223
what about the ten zillion guns on the street before '08? these liberals will never get it.

They will probably allow people to keep their pr-'08 semi-autos, but ban them from reselling them.

30 posted on 08/24/2006 8:46:31 PM PDT by umgud (Do moderate muslims luv us infidels and Jews?.... Didn't think so.)
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To: MichiganConservative
It will have to be made of extremely hard material, otherwise it will wear off after a few hundred rounds. Or a few seconds with a file. More likely it will be some sort of imprint caused by the bolt during recoil. Dum idea none the less, and easy to defeat for the criminal minded.

Manufacturers won't bother, and if they do, only the law abiding citizen will get screwed by the extra cost. I wonder how this will work for people moving into the state after 2008 with new guns bought in a different state? Add this on to the list of stupid laws made in 2006 by the loony left. It goes right under the one passed in Chicago yesterday banning ducks with big livers from over feeding them. Apparently it's cruel to eat fat ducks.

31 posted on 08/24/2006 8:57:03 PM PDT by Nathan Zachary
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To: Nathan Zachary
"...the state senate today passed a bill (22-18)"

I'm guessing this hasn't passed the Cali House yet?

32 posted on 08/24/2006 8:57:58 PM PDT by demlosers
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To: glorgau
Am I wrong, or would a criminal only have to pick up his casings to foil this new law?
33 posted on 08/24/2006 9:15:07 PM PDT by singfreedom ("Victory at all costs,.......for without victory there is no survival."--Churchill--that's "Winston")
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To: NormsRevenge

Oh my gosh. How stupid can these nuts get. What is to prevent criminals from tearing down the gun and replacing or altering the pin. There is nothing in this gun industry that cannot be altered and will be. Another stupid way to increase the cost of a gun. And that is not to mention that the criminal can pick up the brass. Wow!!!!!! Really bright.


34 posted on 08/24/2006 9:31:24 PM PDT by Logical me (Oh, well!!!)
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To: jeremiah
Extremely high percentage? Where do you get you're statistics, I would like to see them, in print, for verification. You might want to say that a high percentage of illegals living in Urban areas may be involved in violent crime (which also is most likely untrue), but your statement is false.
35 posted on 08/24/2006 9:38:05 PM PDT by phoenix0468 (http://www.mylocalforum.com -- Go Speak Your Mind.)
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To: Logical me

Don't be silly Norm, I'm sure it will be illegal to alter the pin, so the guy who is about to rob, murder, etc won't want to break the law and change it. sarcasm/

Or they will somehow make it so it's very difficult to change again driving costs even higher so that gun makers won't make or sell them in Calif, so they'll win anyway.


36 posted on 08/24/2006 9:40:22 PM PDT by skyman
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To: singfreedom

That's all they need to do. Laws are not about results. They are about convincing voters that they are doing something to make them safer. Besides, if this makes the cost of a gun fractionally higher, a few people here and there will be stripped of the ability to afford a gun, and that's a good thing (as far as they are concerned).


37 posted on 08/24/2006 9:43:14 PM PDT by kylaka
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To: Dumpster Baby

Actually, if they're smart about it, they'll engrave it into the breech or bolt face so that it doesn't stamp itself so much as the lack of material there causes the casing to deform to the desired shape in that area. (Like the negative part of a mold)


38 posted on 08/24/2006 10:08:38 PM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: phoenix0468
From the LA Times, 95% of warrants for murder are for illegal aliens

75% of those on the most wanted list in LA are illegal aliens.

The LA times reports, that the FBI says that half of all gang members are illegals from Mexico and South America

29% of those in federal prison are illegal aliens.

39 posted on 08/24/2006 10:20:24 PM PDT by jeremiah (Didn't we vote for that Bush fella, because he was TOUGH on TERROR?)
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To: Nathan Zachary

They know perfectly well that this law will not do any of the things that they claim. The goal is to disarm the law-abiding citizen, one increment at a time.


40 posted on 08/24/2006 10:34:22 PM PDT by absalom01 (Cynthia McKinney: One of the most intelligent Democrats in the country.)
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