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It's Now Easier To Buy A Shotgun In NC Than A Keg Of Beer
Raleigh Chronicle ^ | 8/23/06 | Elliott West

Posted on 08/24/2006 5:27:19 PM PDT by elkfersupper

In the state's continuing war against the consumption of alcohol, North Carolina Governor Mike Easley signed a new law on Monday that will not only make it harder to buy kegs of beer, but will also diminish the legal rights of defendants to challenge illegally or incorrectly obtained evidence by the state in regards to driving under the influence charges.

The new law also makes it a crime to have any alcohol in the system of anyone under 21 years of age and allows police officers to demand a chemical test of citizens under 21, whether or not they are driving a vehicle. It also allows police officers who are investigating crashes to request medical information about anyone in any vehicle accident and to request blood tests from accident victims even if they are unconscious.

In addition, the new laws will allow police officers to charge drivers operating a vehicle with a DUI offense even if they are on private property and even if the business is closed. Previously, only those drivers that were on "public" roadways or areas open to the public fell under the domain of DUI laws.

Furthermore, the new laws also allows police officers to introduce tests from field breathalyzers as evidence, as opposed to the more accurate machine breathalyzer tests that are usually done at police headquarters or police stations. In the past, those more accurate automated tests were usually used as evidence in DUI cases instead of the field breathalyzer units.

The Governor's DWI Task Force, which was a group composed almost entirely of law enforcment officials, was established by executive order in December 2003. The task force was asked by Easley to review current laws and come up with proposals for further reducing and deterring driving while impaired. The new law is effective December 1st, 2006.

Kegs & Quantities Of Beer Require Permits

Strangely enough, in North Carolina, an 18 year old citizen may purchase a shotgun or long rifle without a permit, but under the new law that takes effect in December, no one -- not even those over 21 -- in North Carolina will be able to buy a keg of beer without a permit.

In an effort to diminish and also track the sales of kegs and identify individuals who are buying beer, the new law will require the purchaser of a keg of beer to first obtain a permit from the vendor.

The permit requirement will not only apply to kegs containing over seven gallons of beer, but will also require anyone buying over a certain amount of beer or wine to also get a permit. Anyone buying over 80 liters of beer, 50 liters of wine, or 8 liters of fortified wine or so-called "hard liquor" will need to get a permit as well.

DUI Charges On Private Property

Previously, DUI charges could be filed if someone under the influence drove on a public road or other area that was considered to be used by the "members of the public." The definition included private areas that were "open" to the public. An example would be a shopping center parking lot.

However, the new law extends the reach of the law to include almost any private property that has parking spaces that is used for vehicular traffic at any time, whether or not the business is open. The area does not have be a public road or private property that is open to the public, but it can be almost anywhere that is used by vehicles at any time under the new law.

The new extension of the law includes almost every type of property other than a private home, although even then, DUI charges can be filed against someone driving on a private road if the road leads anywhere into a subdivision.

Under 21 Charged With Consumption

Previously under North Carolina law, anyone under 21 could be charged with a crime if they were found to be in possession of alcohol or had attempted to purchase it.

With the new law going into effect, the state has also made it a crime to actually consume alcohol if a citizen is under 21 years of age.

As such, students who seek medical attention for alcohol poisoning could now find themselves charged with the crime of alcohol consumption after they seek treatment at any hospital or other healthcare provider.

Police officers also now have the authority to take a person under 21 into custody and require them to take a breathalyzer test even if they are not driving, if they are suspected of drinking alcohol.

"A law enforcement officer may require any person the officer has probable cause to believe is under age 21 and has consumed alcohol to submit to an alcohol screening test," says the new law.

The new law would allow officers at college and university campuses to charge students who had been drinking, but did not have alcohol in their possession. Under the old law, those students would normally would not face any charges since consumption was not a crime but possession was a misdemeanor.

However, under the new law, students with any alcohol on their breath at all or who show a blood alcohol level after being detained and given a breathalyzer test can be also be charged with a crime.

Police Officers Can Get Medical Info

Under the new law, police officers will now be able to get private medical information from hospitals about anyone involved in a vehicle crash even where alcohol has not yet been established to be involved.

As such, anyone who is a victim in a car wreck or other automobile accident may have their medical information handed over to a law enforcement officer under the new law, even if they were not the driver behind the wheel.

"If a person is involved in a vehicle crash, any health care provider who is providing medical treatment to the person shall, upon request, disclose to any law enforcement officer investigating the crash the following information about the person: name, current location, and whether the person appears to be impaired by alcohol, drugs, or another substance," says the law.

"A health care provider shall disclose a certified copy of all identifiable health information related to that person as specified in a search warrant or an order issued by a judicial official," states the new law.

Reduction In Legal Rights Of Defendants

Remarkably, the new law reduces the ability of defendants in DUI cases in the courtrooms and the ability to throw out or challenge evidence that was obtained by the state except in certain circumstances.

"The defendant may move to suppress evidence or dismiss charges only prior to trial," says the new law.

Although as an exception, the defendant may still make a motion to dismiss the case at the close of state's evidence, this new rule is a vast departure from established courtroom procedure and places a much greater burden on the defendant.

Local defense attorneys we talked with are already concerned about some of the provisions of the law including the challenging of evidence as well as the elimination of the provision in the law that requires a test from a more accurate automated breathalyzer that prints out the report, as opposed to the field breathalyzers operate by officers.

"This is what happens when you have a former prosecutor who is governor choose everyone on the commission [to come up with the law] -- everyone on there was either involved in law enforcement or worked for the state as a prosecutor," said the local defense attorney, who tries DUI cases and wished not to have his name printed. "There was no one there to serve as an advocate for the legal rights of citizens, just to serve law enforcement."

Governor Easley said that the new laws, although tougher, would be applied fairly.

"This comprehensive legislation will better protect the public from the dangers of drunk drivers by strengthening existing DWI laws. The legislation increases penalties for driving while impaired and assures that laws are applied fairly and consistently throughout North Carolina," said Easley in a released statement.

Other Provisions Of The New Law

Other than the keg permit, the media across the state have focused on other less onerous provisions in the new law, including stricter penalties for getting involved in an accident or causing injuries while driving drunk.

The new law makes most of those types of laws felonies and also makes it easier to classify DUI drivers as habitual offenders. Under the new law, drivers need only to get three DUI's in ten years as opposed to the old span of seven years.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Extended News; Government; News/Current Events; US: North Carolina
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81 posted on 08/24/2006 7:42:37 PM PDT by digger48
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To: elkfersupper
Strangely enough, in North Carolina, an 18 year old citizen may purchase a shotgun or long rifle without a permit,

That is partial bologna.

When you go to buy a handgun, long gun or shotgun you fill out a form and the gun shop employee calls the feds.

The feds check a list or quick background review and give a yea or nay.

Getting a handgun requires a county permit also, unless you have a CCW.

Private transactions on long guns require nothing but handgun sales still require the exchange of a permit.

You may not have to get a State or County permit to obtain a shotgun but you have to get the Fed ok.

82 posted on 08/24/2006 7:47:22 PM PDT by Vinnie
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To: Mystified_Rep
What happens to people who only had cold medicine and ended up in an accident? Some of that stuff has a lot of alcohol in it.

That's a DWI in almost every state and a lot of additional trouble if you're under 21 in NC.

83 posted on 08/24/2006 7:54:25 PM PDT by elkfersupper
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

The Governor's DWI Task Force (Gov. Easley and his 'Rat cronies) sounds like a home-grown version of the Taliban.


84 posted on 08/24/2006 7:58:46 PM PDT by Ides of March (Beware.)
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To: elkfersupper
How much are the permits? This appears to be a revenue enhancement scheme.
As far as pre-eighteen year olds buying shotguns, I imagine just about every young man, as well as boys, owned one back in more sensible times.
85 posted on 08/24/2006 7:59:54 PM PDT by jla
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To: elkfersupper

So a Democrat governor just pissed off a bunch of college students who can vote at 18yo.

I hope somebody in NC capitalizes on that.


86 posted on 08/24/2006 8:03:03 PM PDT by VeniVidiVici (Rabid ethnicist.)
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To: elkfersupper

Always been easier to buy a shotgun than a keg and in free states across America it still is. Only have to be 18 for the shotgun.


87 posted on 08/24/2006 8:09:45 PM PDT by xone
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To: digger48

Love it! I went to college in Maine, and the sign reminds me of a goofy professor named Hussey. Looks like his kid might have moved up in the world.


88 posted on 08/24/2006 8:10:39 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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To: fso301

seattle?


89 posted on 08/24/2006 8:24:32 PM PDT by bobby.223
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To: elkfersupper

In some places, you have to be 25 to buy more than one case of beer (24 pack) or a keg.


90 posted on 08/24/2006 8:43:35 PM PDT by Thunder90
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To: Gabz

Thanks for the ping!


91 posted on 08/24/2006 8:56:36 PM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: seacapn

North Carolina's anti-booze traditions created the need for the bootlegging tradition.


92 posted on 08/24/2006 9:09:26 PM PDT by F.J. Mitchell (But who or what can check or balance our appointed for life,by Hezbocrats, Hezbojudiciary?)
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To: Ides of March

He's a hezbocrat.


93 posted on 08/24/2006 9:13:06 PM PDT by F.J. Mitchell (But who or what can check or balance our appointed for life,by Hezbocrats, Hezbojudiciary?)
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To: elkfersupper
It's Now Easier To Buy A Shotgun In NC Than A Keg Of Beer

I don't recall any right to keep and drink beer being protected by the Constitution.

94 posted on 08/24/2006 9:53:46 PM PDT by El Gato
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To: potlatch; PhilDragoo; MeekOneGOP; Cobra64


95 posted on 08/24/2006 10:03:15 PM PDT by devolve (fx 9125_AMERICANS_KILLED_2003_BY_ILLEGALS MEX_ILLEGAL_GOT_911_TERRORISTS_ID NO_NUEVO_TEJASquired)
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To: devolve

That is beyond beautiful devolve


96 posted on 08/24/2006 10:07:23 PM PDT by potlatch (Does a clean house indicate that there is a broken computer in it?)
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To: diverteach

Yep that and the demand for medical records from everyone in an accident, I don't see the "compelling state interest" there.


97 posted on 08/24/2006 10:36:55 PM PDT by jiggyboy (Ten per cent of poll respondents are either lying or insane)
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To: Abram; albertp; AlexandriaDuke; Allosaurs_r_us; Americanwolf; Americanwolfsbrother; Annie03; ...
the writing has been on the wall for a long time that this kinda stuff was coming. I just wonder how long before the governor of north carolina builds a wall around the state with armed cops and german shepard patrols with shoot on site orders for anyone trying to flee

Libertarian ping.To be added or removed from my ping list freepmail me or post a message here

98 posted on 08/24/2006 11:33:36 PM PDT by freepatriot32 (Holding you head high & voting Libertarian is better then holding your nose and voting republican)
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To: elkfersupper; Gabz

thanks for the ping guys. What i dont see anyone here mentioning is the fact that almost every jewish family kids included drink wine at dinner and they start at around 12 or 13 and every state in the usa has always had exemptions for that. Apparently that no longer applys in nc. So they have with this new law pretty much just turned every jewish family into criminials the kids for under aged consumption and the parents for giving it to them in violation of the new state law


99 posted on 08/24/2006 11:40:30 PM PDT by freepatriot32 (Holding you head high & voting Libertarian is better then holding your nose and voting republican)
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To: Cobra64

Jacksonville.


100 posted on 08/25/2006 12:09:52 AM PDT by The KG9 Kid
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