Posted on 08/23/2006 10:59:53 AM PDT by nickcarraway
I don't know where they come from,but I have a pretty good idea where they're going.
and barking moonbat too!
Yeah, when they start talking about an "evolving" God, I wonder when they'll come up with the "fossil evidence" of the "earlier" God. The tighter the circle they run in, the faster they run up their own butts.
Since his retirement, he has moved his focus from questions of philosophy and religion to one of politics and, specifically, questioning the 9/11 attacks. His recent work includes the book, The New Pearl Harbor: Disturbing Questions About the Bush Administration and 9-11 (2004) and The 9/11 Commission Report: Omissions and Distortions, books in which he argues there is strong evidence members of the United States government were behind the September 11, 2001 attacks.
In The New Pearl Harbor, Griffin supports the work of other conspiracy theorists who assert that elements of the US government were behind the attacks on the Pentagon and the World Trade Center in New York City. He purports to use his training in logic to analyze the validity of their arguments. Griffin states the overall thesis of his argument: There should be a well funded and thorough-going investigation of all the questions raised about the 9/11 attack. Griffin also appeared on C-SPAN 2 when he delivered his talk, '9/11 and American Empire: How should religious people respond?'[1]
In an interview with Nick Welsh, Thinking Unthinkable Thoughts: Theologian Charges White House Complicity in 9/11 Attack [2], Griffin analyzes charges that the US government sent airplanes into the Twin Towers of the World Trade Center, and these airplanes were only a cover for explosives that the US government had planted within the World Trade Center towers. Griffin also talked with Alex Jones [3]
The second edition of The New Pearl Harbor contains additional material on the Saudi Arabian hijackers, Sibel Edmonds, his analysis of the official 9/11 Commission set up by the US government, and his belief that the US Government deliberately changed its standard rules for analyzing military intelligence in order to allow the attacks. Historian Howard Zinn, the author of A People's History of the United States, describes The New Pearl Harbor as "the most persuasive argument I have seen for further investigation on the Bush administration's relationship to that historic and troubling event."
The New Pearl Harbor, after identifying the supposedly unanswered questions concerning the 9/11 attacks, attempts to fit them first, to a conspiracy/complicity theory, and second, to a coincidence/incompetence theory. Then he explores the contradictions inherent in each theory, concluding with the need for a full and independent investigation led by the Fourth Estate.
Critics of Griffin's thesis, such as Chip Berlet, say that many of the claims in the book are refutable. Griffin has rejected these criticisms [4] and debated his critics, [5]. Other reviewers like Mike Williams claim to have found various problems [6][7].
In a review published in the Nation magazine, former CIA agent Robert Baer dismissed the gist of Griffin's writings as one in a long line of conspiracy theories about national tragedies, but noted that the Bush administration had created a climate of secrecy and mistrust that helped generate such explanations. ("Dangerous Liaisons," September 27, 2004).
Hubs and I joined a United Methodist church around the 2004 election. Initially, I thought we'd be surrounded by conservatives and I suddenly found we are not.
I have trouble with people who don't respect the president. Especially when they're "Christians." It's something I don't get; while I disliked Clinton, I didn't spew all the hate I keep hearing.
In other words, an idiot.
More of a humanist than a theologian.
If you believe that god is whatever you currently perceive god to be, you basically believe that you determine what god is.
It's self indulgence, not theology.
As you said, he's an idiot, but an idiot with a message that appeals to other idiots. Why should they try and conform their lives to god's will when they can simply conform their view of god to their own will?
This crap has little real resemblance to Christianity. They don't worship God, they worship themselves.
And Ted Olson stood by and said nothing. Amazing, huh?
And this loonball is getting radio time?
Absolutely astounding - Bush did ALL that without getting caught and yet he is an idiot. Which is it?
I simply cannot bear a discussion with liberals. Just can't control my laughter at the naivete.
You are right! I should have prayed for Clinton more.
Are you kidding?
Those nut cases are convinced that "BusHitler" was behind Sept. 11th.
"David Ray Griffin, professor emeritus of philosophy and theology....."
"... the laws of physics alone cannot explain why steel-reinforced towers would implode as a result of mere airplanes crashes, Griffin insists."
SHUT UP and teach. Or better yet - just shut up.
"If we believe that our political and military leaders are acting on the basis of policies that are diametrically opposed to divine purposes, it is incumbent upon us to say so,"
As a “process theologian, who believes that God is evolving, how can he say what “divine purposes” are? Maybe what’s a divine purpose today won’t be one tomorrow. Maybe God will change His mind.
The events of 9/11 were a false flag operation undertaken by U.S. intelligence and police agencies at the behest of the Bush administration. Examples of other successful false flag operations cited by the author are……the 1933 Reichstag Fire that the Nazis ignited and blamed on communists to justify their dictatorship;
Aha!!!! See?? That Hezbollah guy was right!
I don’t know the author. I did study under one of the blurbers. After a lifetime of work in the subject, she couldn’t get theology right, so her blurb lends no credence to the book, except for knuckleheads such as herself.
I've read that around 30% of the American public believes this crap, which seems a little hard to believe. But even if it's just 10% it's frightening.
I wish I had such a good attitude as you, sarasota! I get very, very frustrated when I hear 'war for oil.' And that people don't 'get it' that these are murderous thugs and wanting a happy, lalalalala world ain't ever gonna make it so. $%&@$&%!&!$& [/rant]
Yes, Clinton could have used a LOT more prayer! ;o)
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