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ADL Blasts Christian Supremacist TV Special & Book Blaming Darwin For Hitler
The Anti-Defamation League ^ | August 22, 2006 | The Anti-Defamation League

Posted on 08/22/2006 2:04:20 PM PDT by js1138

ADL Blasts Christian Supremacist TV Special & Book Blaming Darwin For Hitler

New York, NY, August 22, 2006 … The Anti-Defamation League (ADL) today blasted a television documentary produced by Christian broadcaster Dr. D. James Kennedy's Coral Ridge Ministries that attempts to link Charles Darwin's theory of evolution to Adolf Hitler and the atrocities of the Holocaust. ADL also denounced Coral Ridge Ministries for misleading Dr. Francis Collins, the director of the National Human Genome Research Institute for the NIH, and wrongfully using him as part of its twisted documentary, "Darwin's Deadly Legacy."

After being contacted by the ADL about his name being used to promote Kennedy's project, Dr. Collins said he is "absolutely appalled by what Coral Ridge Ministries is doing. I had NO knowledge that Coral Ridge Ministries was planning a TV special on Darwin and Hitler, and I find the thesis of Dr. Kennedy's program utterly misguided and inflammatory," he told ADL.

ADL National Director Abraham H. Foxman said in a statement:"This is an outrageous and shoddy attempt by D. James Kennedy to trivialize the horrors of the Holocaust. Hitler did not need Darwin to devise his heinous plan to exterminate the Jewish people. Trivializing the Holocaust comes from either ignorance at best or, at worst, a mendacious attempt to score political points in the culture war on the backs of six million Jewish victims and others who died at the hands of the Nazis.

"It must be remembered that D. James Kennedy is a leader among the distinct group of 'Christian Supremacists' who seek to "reclaim America for Christ" and turn the U.S. into a Christian nation guided by their strange notions of biblical law."

The documentary is scheduled to air this weekend along with the publication of an accompanying book "Evolution's Fatal Fruit: How Darwin's Tree of Life Brought Death to Millions."

A Coral Ridge Ministries press release promoting the documentary says the program "features 14 scholars, scientists, and authors who outline the grim consequences of Darwin's theory of evolution and show how his theory fueled Hitler's ovens."


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To: Rightwing Conspiratr1; tjd1454
The book Hitler's Secret Conversations 1941-1944 published by Farrar, Straus and Young, Inc.first edition, 1953, contains definitive proof of Hitler's real views. The book was published in Britain under the title, _Hitler's Table Talk 1941-1944, which title was used for the Oxford University Press paperback edition in the United States.

Fake!

The English version of the Table Talk was translated, not from the German originals, but from a French version prepared by a Swiss Nazi whose name was Genoud. Genoud added a number of anti-Christian statements that weren't in the original. Unless you have the Picker or Jochmann versions of the transcripts (in German) of Hitler's coversations, you have nothing. Much of the French and English translations is fabricated.

I have both original versions, by the way, and have verified that what Mr. Carrier wrote in the above link is true.

221 posted on 08/22/2006 11:13:31 PM PDT by DanDenDar
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To: eleni121
The Rev Dr. Kennedy is one of the finest and most intellectually decent people I have ever had the pleasure to hear.

You should seek out better people. If he's intellectually decent, why, then, does he tell lies?. His misrepresentation of Collins is part of his general pattern of behavior.

222 posted on 08/22/2006 11:20:39 PM PDT by DanDenDar
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To: From many - one.

"And even fewer paused to reflect that under the leadership of Rosenberg, Bormann, and Himmler, who were backed by Hitler, the Nazi regime intended eventually to destroy Christianity in Germany, if it could, and substitute the old paganism of the early tribal Germanic gods and the new paganism of the Nazi extremists. As Bormann, one of the men closest to Hitler, said publically in 1941, 'National Socialism and Christianity are irreconcilable'.

"What the Hitler government envisioned for Germany was clearly set out in a thirty-point program for the 'National Reich Church' drawn up during the war by Rosenberg, an outspoken pagan, who among his other offices, held that of 'the Fuehrer's Delegate for the Entire Intellectual and Philosophical Education and Instruction for the National Socialist Party.' A few of the thirty articles convey the essentials:

"1. The National Reich Church of Germany categorically claims the exclusive right and the exclusive power to control all churches within the borders of the Reich: it declares these to be the national churches of the German Reich.

"5. The National Church is determined to exterminate irrevocably....the strange and foreign Christian faiths imported into Germany in the ill-omened year 800.

"7. The National Church has no scribes, pastors, chaplains, or priests, but National Reich orators are to speak in them.

"13. The National Church demands immediate cessation of the publishing and dissemination of the Bible in Germany...

"14. The National Church declares that to it, and therefore to the German nation, it has been decided that the Fuehrer's Mein Kampf is the greatest of all documents. It....not only contains the greatest but it embodies the purest and truest ethics for the present and future life of our nation.

"18. The National Church will clear away from its altars all crucifixes, Bibles, and pictures of saints.

"19. On the altars there must be nothing but Mein Kampf (to the German nation and therefore to God the most sacred book) and to the left of the altar a sword.

"30. On the day of its foundation, the Christian Cross must be removed from all churches, cathedrals, and chapels...and it must be superseded by the only unconquerable symbol, the swastika."

The Rise and Fall of the Third Reich, pg 240 (Author W.L. Shirer)

"The party [Kerrl said] stands on the basis of Positive Christianity, and Positive Christianity IS National Socialism.....National Socialism is the doing of God's will....God's will reveals itself in German blood....Dr. Zoellner and Count Galen [the Catholic bishop of Meunster] have tried to make clear to me that Christianity consists in faith in Christ as the Son of God. That makes me laugh....No, Christianity is not dependent upon the Apostle's Creed....True Christianity is represented by the party, and the German people are now called by the party and especially by the Fuehrer to a real Christianity....The Fuehrer is the herald of a new revelation."

The Rise and Fall of the Third Reich, pg 239 (Author W.L. Shirer)


223 posted on 08/22/2006 11:27:28 PM PDT by MissouriConservative (People demand freedom of speech to make up for the freedom of thought which they avoid - Kierkegaard)
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To: js1138
Looks like Francis Collins got their attention. They've removed his name from the blurb for the show.

Interestingly, they also dropped Coulter.

224 posted on 08/22/2006 11:28:01 PM PDT by DanDenDar
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To: MissouriConservative
As Bormann, one of the men closest to Hitler, said publically in 1941, 'National Socialism and Christianity are irreconcilable'.

Bormann was definitely anti-Christian. But Bormann was one man, not the Nazi Party.

225 posted on 08/22/2006 11:32:14 PM PDT by DanDenDar
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To: sittnick
What's the deal with slingling around terms like "Christian Supremacist"? Any serious Christian believes his Faith to be the Truth, and that ultimately Christ has dominion over all.

D. James Kennedy believes that Christians should have dominion over all. That's a little different.

As the vice regents of God, we are to exercise godly dominion and influence over our neighborhoods, our schools, our government, our literature and arts, our sports arenas, our entertainment media, our news media, our scientific endeavors -- in short, over every aspect and institution of human society.

226 posted on 08/22/2006 11:39:29 PM PDT by DanDenDar
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To: PhilipFreneau
If you bothered to read Foxman's hateful diatribe, you would have found this: "It must be remembered that D. James Kennedy is a leader among the distinct group of 'Christian Supremacists' who seek to "reclaim America for Christ" and turn the U.S. into a Christian nation guided by their strange notions of biblical law."

D. James Kennedy is a Dominionist. What is hateful about saying so?

227 posted on 08/22/2006 11:59:28 PM PDT by DanDenDar
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To: Theo
Are you blaming the Holocaust on Jesus and His followers? Hm.

Was Martin Luther a follower?

228 posted on 08/23/2006 3:14:36 AM PDT by Virginia-American
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To: muawiyah; js1138
No doubt ol' Abe is trying to protect some of his funding sources here.

Unlike Kennedy.

229 posted on 08/23/2006 3:29:07 AM PDT by Virginia-American
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To: stands2reason
Christianity had an influence on Hitler.

Catholicism to be exact...

230 posted on 08/23/2006 3:30:43 AM PDT by Sir Francis Dashwood (LET'S ROLL!)
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To: Stultis; T'wit
...But nevertheless Rosenberg holds that the races were separately created, each with it's distinct soul. ...

I've never seen a statement by Hitler or any other Nazi that the Jews and Aryans had a common ancestor. Until someone shows me something like that, it's hard to take claims of nazis knowing evolution seriously.

231 posted on 08/23/2006 3:33:50 AM PDT by Virginia-American
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To: MissouriConservative
It should be no surprise that Hitler had a messiah complex and those that followed him gobbled it up...

The Rise and Fall of the Third Reich was quite a book... Shirer also wrote about the high level NAZI pedophile and homosexual orgies.

232 posted on 08/23/2006 3:41:44 AM PDT by Sir Francis Dashwood (LET'S ROLL!)
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To: Yardstick

The keeping of Lenin's corpse enshrined and groomed regularly would also suggest idolatry... a pagan practice if there ever was one...


233 posted on 08/23/2006 3:46:11 AM PDT by Sir Francis Dashwood (LET'S ROLL!)
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To: Sir Francis Dashwood; All
The thread's about the influence, if any, of Darwinism (and Christianity) on Hitler and the Nazis.

So SFD says: ... Shirer also wrote about the high level NAZI pedophile and homosexual orgies.

234 posted on 08/23/2006 3:56:32 AM PDT by Virginia-American
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To: Neoliberalnot
>> This is a story the Darwinists will do everything in their power to attack

Real Darwinists do not "attack" anything. Science is value free. Nature has no values. What is, is. It is simply the end product of evolutionary process. There is no rational scientific basis to express a value judgment about a given group or view, or to prefer one group over another. One does not loathe Christians (or distance oneself from those worrisome Nazis) without smuggling in values from some system other than Darwinism.

235 posted on 08/23/2006 4:08:34 AM PDT by T'wit (It is not possible to "go too far" criticizing liberals. No matter what you say, they're worse.)
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To: Yardstick; staytrue; From many - one.; doc1019; Rightwing Conspiratr1; PhilipFreneau; ...
So the communists didn't really believe in Marx.

But they wanted everybody else to... Enshrinement and regular grooming of Lenin's corpse would suggest idolatry, a distinctly pagan practice if there ever was one...

It is no coincidence Islamic pagans hate Israel, Jews, Christians and Western Civilization. The entire basis of Western Civilization is Mosaic Law, something both the Neo-Pagan Left and the pagan Islamic thugs cannot abide and wish to destroy.

The very idea that human beings have individual rights not subject to the whims of an earthly monarch, but subject to the laws of Yahweh, is directly from Moses.

Historically, this is proven over and over again with the successive conflicts between the forces of paganism and the Judaic culture. (This includes the idolatry of cultural Marxist paganism.)

A greater number of "atheists" and "pagans" adopt the same hackneyed tenets of a false Judaic-Christian ideal (golden calf). They also subscribe to the Judaic fetishism of "sin," but will fight to their death in denial of it.

Most of them are so wrapped up in their own polemics that they have become nothing more than pathetic anti-Christians with the same false hypocritical philosophy. They just slap a new label on it hoping nobody will notice - - they replace the idea of "avoiding sin" with "morals."

Morality and all of its associated ideals are rooted entirely in the presupposition some higher power defines what is correct for human behavior. Today, "morals" are a religious pagan philosophy of esoteric hobgoblins. Transfiguration is a pantheon of fantasies as the medium of infinitization. Others get derision for having an unwavering Judaic belief in Yahweh or Yeshua, although their critics and enemies will evangelize insertion of phantasmagoric fetishisms into secular law.

Mosaic Law (of which the Ten Commandments is just a part) is the foundation of Western Civilization. Genesis is the primary focus of the Declaration of Independence, from where our Constitutional rights are derived. The Ten Commandments are the foundation of our judicial system.

Moses wrote Genesis. This is why such people will jump up and down screaming when the Ten Commandments are displayed or the Creationist idea of monogamy from the book of Genesis is introduced.

The latter (Genesis) also ruins the illogical and non-biological arguments of homosexual monogamy. In a secular sense, homosexuality is an idolatry of perversion. It is in no way an anatomical function of the human organism, but a phantasmagoric creation from within the mentally disturbed human mind, a social psychosis, naked and on full exhibitionist display.

This is the whole crux (pun intended) of their attack on creationism - - they are really frustrated by Genesis, but cannot destroy the axiomatic state of procreant human biology, it does not fit their religious agenda.

Homosexual monogamy advocates seek ceremonious sanctification of their anatomical perversions and esoteric absolution for their guilt-ridden, impoverished egos.

Neither of those will satisfy their universal dissatisfaction with mortality or connect them to something eternal. With pantheons of fantasies as their medium of infinitization, they still have nothing in them of reality, any more than there is in the things that seem to stand before us in a dream.

Homosexual deviancy is really a pagan practice (and a self-induced social psychosis) at war with the Judaic culture over what is written in the book of Genesis (1:27, 2:18).

This is exactly what the National Socialists were at war with... so, when someone uses the terms "Feminazi" and/or "Gaystapo," they might not realize how close to the truth they really are. Consider their eugenic breeding programs.

Many will seek ceremonious sanctification and esoteric absolution in some type of marriage rite, but that still fails to give them a connection to the eternal in both a religious and temporal, procreant sense - - the union does not produce offspring.

Dissatisfaction with inevitable mortality only feeds the impoverishment of the ego further. Homosexuals really hate human life; their whole desire is rooted in the destruction of it...

Abortion is akin to slavery... life to be bought and sold...

Contemplate the religious fervor associated with the pro-abortion advocacy. The societal practice of abortion is ritual mass murder upon the altars of conceit dedicated to idolatrous vanities, a collective human sacrifice before pagan idols.

It has a similitude to the Teutonic paganism of Adolph Hitler (whose idolatry was the idea of a "master race," among other things). In effect, these genocides are a mass human sacrifice to those pagan idols. The abortionists, like the National Socialists, incinerate the remains of their victims.

Aleister Crowley, who openly supported the National Socialists, was affiliated with the Golden Dawn, Ordo Templi Orientis, A.A. (Order of the Silver Star) and other such occult lodges all across Germany. Crowley engaged in all manner of deviancy, homoeroticism, sadomasochism and murder. Much of the occultism in National Socialism is derived directly from there. Crowley envisioned himself as the Great Beast (To Mega Therion), just as der Fuhrer made himself in that image. Hitler's life as a struggling, inept artist was where that association blossomed.

Crowley's creed, "Do what thou wilt, shall be the whole of the Law," (which is actually from Francois Rabelais) and used by Neo-Pagan nutcases without attribution for obvious politically correct reasons, is with certainty no different than the National Socialist "will to power," or their ubermensch mentality.

It is also no accident Nietzsche's "over-man" and nihilist philosophy and resulting insanity from venereal disease closely mirrors the insanity of der Fuhrer.

These occult orders, sex and drug cults still survive today, as do the Neo-pagan, Neo-Nazi groups, black supremacist Rastafarian potheads, prison gangs and other related filth.

Crowley occultism is also from where L. Ron Hubbard emerges with Scientology. Note the NAZI symbolism of that kooky cult of weirdoes and their deviant adherents. Hollywood Cultural Marxists love Scientology.

Ah, Hollywood! The fountain of fantastical images, perverts and hypocrisies! It is by no accident the Cultural Marxists of Hollywood are flaming haters of America, Israel and Christendom, and advocate the most bizarre and psychotic. Germany cracked down hard on the Scientologists for that reason and because they are using similar mind control techniques as the NAZIs...

236 posted on 08/23/2006 4:31:43 AM PDT by Sir Francis Dashwood (LET'S ROLL!)
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To: Virginia-American
The thread's about the influence, if any, of Darwinism (and Christianity) on Hitler and the Nazis./i>

Well...

Aleister Crowley, who openly supported the National Socialists, was affiliated with the Golden Dawn, Ordo Templi Orientis, A.A. (Order of the Silver Star) and other such occult lodges all across Germany. Crowley engaged in all manner of deviancy, homoeroticism, sadomasochism and murder. Much of the occultism in National Socialism is derived directly from there. Crowley envisioned himself as the Great Beast (To Mega Therion), just as der Fuhrer made himself in that image. Hitler's life as a struggling, inept artist was where that association blossomed.

Crowley's creed, "Do what thou wilt, shall be the whole of the Law," (which is actually from Francois Rabelais) and used by Neo-Pagan nutcases without attribution for obvious politically correct reasons, is with certainty no different than the National Socialist "will to power," or their ubermensch mentality.

It is also no accident Nietzsche's "over-man" and nihilist philosophy and resulting insanity from venereal disease closely mirrors the insanity of der Fuhrer.

These occult orders, sex and drug cults still survive today, as do the Neo-pagan, Neo-Nazi groups, black supremacist Rastafarian potheads, prison gangs and other related filth.

Crowley occultism is also from where L. Ron Hubbard emerges with Scientology...

237 posted on 08/23/2006 4:35:29 AM PDT by Sir Francis Dashwood (LET'S ROLL!)
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To: T'wit
Nature has no values.

This is why we have things like AIDS... A nautural process to weed out the filth, regardless of who else might get infected...

238 posted on 08/23/2006 4:38:54 AM PDT by Sir Francis Dashwood (LET'S ROLL!)
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To: Virginia-American
I've never seen a statement by Hitler or any other Nazi that the Jews and Aryans had a common ancestor. Until someone shows me something like that, it's hard to take claims of nazis knowing evolution seriously.

Common descent does not a Darwinist make: even some ID people accept it.

The true indication that Hitler didn't accept Darwinism, however he might have exploited Darwin's name, is that his entire ideology was based on the concept of "racial purity", which flies (pbbblt), flies (pbbblt) right in Darwinism's face.

A true Darwinist would have promoted racial mixing, as genetic diversity is the real key to survival, and survival is all that Darwinism is about. To a Darwinist, miscegenation is a virtue, not a sin.

Moreover, a cursory glance at the history of human accomplishment shows that the Jews have a better claim than anybody on being the "master race", if you believe the misconception that the "purpose of evolution" is to make the human race smarter and more creative, and the misconception that all ability is genetic.

239 posted on 08/23/2006 4:45:40 AM PDT by Physicist
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To: orionblamblam

> Do you believe there was a creator for the keyboard you just used?

To save time: we don;t see keyboards romping through the natural world, reproducing on their own and mutating."

So, you don't wish to answer my question?


240 posted on 08/23/2006 4:48:23 AM PDT by Neoliberalnot
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