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Experts find site of Zulu siege
BBC ^ | 22 Aug 2006 | Stephen Stewart

Posted on 08/22/2006 10:26:50 AM PDT by Marius3188

British soldiers fighting the Zulus experienced appalling conditions similar to the muddy killing fields of World War I, it has emerged.

Archaeologists have revealed details of soldiers' battle for survival during a bloody siege in the Anglo-Zulu War.

The colonial war in 1879 was dramatised by Michael Caine in the film Zulu.

Historians lacked detailed evidence of the troops' daily lives, but a team of experts from Glasgow have now uncovered a forgotten British fort.

The site at KwaMondi, Eshowe, in South Africa, has been hailed as a treasure trove of historical information which sheds light on the heroism and skill of the Royal Engineers.

The group from Glasgow University was headed by Dr Tony Pollard, star of the popular BBC's Two Men in A Trench series, and used metal detectors to survey the site.

The fort was built by the British army following the invasion of Zululand in January 1879 and was besieged by a huge Zulu force for more than two months.

Dr Pollard, Dr Iain Banks and their team brought to light the endeavours of men such as Captain Warren Wynne, who built the fort and surrounding roads under the threat of an overwhelming Zulu attack.

They also discovered that heavy rains during the siege turned the fort into a polluted quagmire leading to an outbreak of typhus which killed large number of men.

Iconic locations

Dr Pollard said: "During the rains of January to March, the interior of the fort would have been very wet and prone to waterlogging.

"The presence of 1,700 men and their horses would quickly turn the soil into a muddy mess, little different from the mud that their sons and grandsons would face in the trenches of Flanders.

"The artefacts provide an insight into the lives of men who lived in the fort for the duration of the siege.

"They show the value of metal detecting as a technique and also of the less well known sites that have been pushed into the background by iconic locations such as Rorke's Drift or Isandlwana."

Dr Pollard said the story of the fort provides a testament to the skill of the Royal Engineers and particularly of Captain Warren Wynne.

He added: "It is a story without the stuff of legend but nonetheless a story of achievement under difficult and testing conditions; the remains of the fort are a memorial to the men who built and served under such trying circumstances.

"My favourite find is undoubtedly a Martini Henry bullet converted into a plumb bob.

"You can imagine the row when it was discovered there wasn't one in the tool box and Wynne the engineer commanding one of his men to make one - if he didn't make it himself.

"Its also interesting archaeologically to have something designed to kill transformed into something constructive."

Before arriving at Eshowe, the relief column under Lord Chelmsford fought off a 12,000-strong Zulu force.


TOPICS: Miscellaneous; Unclassified; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: banglist; battle; godsgravesglyphs; milhist; military; siege; soldiers; southafrica; zulu
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"dramatised by Michael Caine in the film Zulu."

Pisses me off, that in today's society we reference history using Movies and that our collective memories seem to use TV as their benchmarks of knowledge.

Television killed history--media only acknowledges reality for which film exists (last 40 years vice 4000)

Sorry for the rant.

Anyway, British Courage at it's finest.

1 posted on 08/22/2006 10:26:51 AM PDT by Marius3188
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To: SunkenCiv

GGG ping

I don't know if military battle sites(recent -200 yrs) is in your GGG collective.


2 posted on 08/22/2006 10:28:37 AM PDT by Marius3188 (Happy Resurrection Weekend)
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To: Marius3188

Yes, but please note: it is a great film.


3 posted on 08/22/2006 10:29:45 AM PDT by theDentist (Qwerty ergo typo : I type, therefore I misspelll.)
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To: blam

Historic archaeology ping...


4 posted on 08/22/2006 10:31:19 AM PDT by TXnMA ("Allah": Satan's current alias...)
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To: Marius3188

Great movie.


5 posted on 08/22/2006 10:31:53 AM PDT by justshutupandtakeit (If you believe ANYTHING in the Treason Media you are a fool.)
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To: Marius3188
You'll get a kick out of this. From the Amazon.com synopsis:

"Although the basic premise has since been executed with more technical skill and panache (most notably by Aliens and Michael Mann's The Last of the Mohicans)"

Apparently even old films are reviewed in terms of newer movies, not just history.

6 posted on 08/22/2006 10:34:10 AM PDT by coconutt2000 (NO MORE PEACE FOR OIL!!! DOWN WITH TYRANTS, TERRORISTS, AND TIMIDCRATS!!!! (3-T's For World Peace))
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The colonial war in 1879 was dramatised by Michael Caine in the film Zulu

His first film, too.

7 posted on 08/22/2006 10:34:42 AM PDT by Puppage (You may disagree with what I have to say, but I shall defend to your death my right to say it)
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To: Marius3188

I believe Zulu is the film Peter Jackson cites as THE textbook guide to filming a battle sequence. He used it as inspiration for the Lord of the Rings finale.


8 posted on 08/22/2006 10:34:45 AM PDT by ibbryn (this tag intentionally left blank)
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To: Puppage

I watched it a few weeks ago. He looked unbelieveably young.


9 posted on 08/22/2006 10:37:12 AM PDT by Tijeras_Slim
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To: Marius3188

I dunno. I'm in favor of anything that makes the public more aware of history. If you've got to use movies and TV to do this, then that's what you have to do.


10 posted on 08/22/2006 10:37:46 AM PDT by Junior (Identical fecal matter, alternate diurnal period)
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To: justshutupandtakeit
Great movie.

"Zulus, Colour Sergeant. Thousands of them."

11 posted on 08/22/2006 10:38:28 AM PDT by Junior (Identical fecal matter, alternate diurnal period)
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To: Junior

Chaka Zulu is another great movie about the Zulu leader. Mini-series actually but fascinating.


12 posted on 08/22/2006 10:45:36 AM PDT by justshutupandtakeit (If you believe ANYTHING in the Treason Media you are a fool.)
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To: Marius3188

interesting


13 posted on 08/22/2006 10:46:49 AM PDT by Tzimisce (How Would Mohammed Vote? Hillary for President! www.dndorks.com)
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To: Puppage; derllak

and he has one of my favorite movie quotes to this day from that film.

Chard: The army doesn't like more than one disaster in a day.

Bromhead: Looks bad in the newspaper and upsets civilians at their breakfast.

God I Love that!


14 posted on 08/22/2006 10:47:30 AM PDT by Leatherneck_MT (In a world where Carpenters come back from the dead, ALL things are possible.)
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They also discovered that heavy rains during the siege turned the fort into a polluted quagmire leading to an outbreak of typhus which killed large number of men.

Dr Pollard said the story of the fort provides a testament to the skill of the Royal Engineers and particularly of Captain Warren Wynne.

These two statement seem to contradict each other...

15 posted on 08/22/2006 10:51:59 AM PDT by in the Arena
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To: Marius3188
Not a rant Marius3188 but telling it as it should be told.
Not only is it TV but also Hollywood...U157or was it U571 the capture by the Americans of the Enigma machine for which two of our sailors gave their lives and also how two US flyers won the Battle of Britain for us don't know the title but a couple of B.o.B vets were invited to a pre screening and left after 10mins.They had seen enough.
There again we should pay tribute to John Ford for his 'Cavalry Trilogy'...he knew their importance when he filmed them and it shows.
16 posted on 08/22/2006 10:52:42 AM PDT by Brit1 ('Suppers Ready.' (23 mins and 32 seconds of Heaven))
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To: Marius3188
After the actual Rorke's Drift battle, 11 Victoria Crosses (the highest British award "for valour") were awarded, the highest number ever given in a single conflict.

Men of Harlech onto glory
This shall ever be your story
Keep these fighting words before ye
Welshmen never yield

17 posted on 08/22/2006 10:53:09 AM PDT by colorado tanker
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To: Marius3188
Television killed history although I generally agree with your sentiment, Band of Brothers, Saying Private Ryan, Ken Burns Civil War documentary are all IMHO valuable tools.
18 posted on 08/22/2006 10:55:09 AM PDT by SF Republican
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To: Puppage

His first film, too
ALFIE?


19 posted on 08/22/2006 10:56:01 AM PDT by SF Republican
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To: SF Republican

disregard Alfie, that was way down the list.


20 posted on 08/22/2006 10:57:53 AM PDT by SF Republican
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