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Experts find site of Zulu siege
BBC ^ | 22 Aug 2006 | Stephen Stewart

Posted on 08/22/2006 10:26:50 AM PDT by Marius3188

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To: Marius3188

This thread will be of interest to FReepers who are interested in military history.

Cranking the ping machine....


61 posted on 08/22/2006 5:37:21 PM PDT by indcons (The MilHist ping list is back in operation :))
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To: 2 Kool 2 Be 4-Gotten; 75thOVI; Adrastus; A message; AZamericonnie; bcsco; beebuster2000; ...

Ping to an interesting thread on the Anglo-Zulu wars of the late 19th century


62 posted on 08/22/2006 5:39:05 PM PDT by indcons (The MilHist ping list is back in operation :))
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To: abb

Napoleon Bonapart's grandson was killed by a Zulu in the Zulu War while fighting for the British.


63 posted on 08/22/2006 5:44:53 PM PDT by Tribune7
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To: indcons

An interesting read is "The defense of Duffer's Drift"
by E.D. Stinton.

In which our hero, Lt. Backsight Forethought has an interesting dream and learns to be a soldier.

The story is told in a repetitive manner with Lt.B.F. learning a little more in each dream about how to lead,
take care of his men, how to deal with the Boers, where to
defend etc.

It has been updated into a modern version called
"The Defense of Hill 781" by McDonough and transformed
into an allegory of modern mechanized combat, set in the
National Training Center (NTC).

The reader can make the choices for Lt.Col. A. "Tack" Always,
and follow how those choices effect the battle.

Worth reading both.


64 posted on 08/22/2006 6:01:43 PM PDT by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: tet68

Thanks for the recommendations. I will try to get hold of both books...they certainly sound interesting.


65 posted on 08/22/2006 6:04:57 PM PDT by indcons (Islam Delenda Est)
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To: justshutupandtakeit

Great movie, great soundtrack!


66 posted on 08/22/2006 6:12:28 PM PDT by willk
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To: indcons

Here is "The way he took." from "Land and Sea Tales for
Scouts and Guides". by Kipling.

One of my Favorites, if you backtrack up the URl you can get to the master list of his works. A lot of stories about
the Boer and India campaigns, "Soldiers Three", "Barrack room Ballads, and many more.

http://whitewolf.newcastle.edu.au/words/authors/K/KiplingRudyard/prose/LandandSea/wayhetook.html

Enjoy!


67 posted on 08/22/2006 6:13:34 PM PDT by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: Marius3188

I think there is a line in the film describing the "Zulus" thusly:

"Get up in the morning, run forty miles, and then fight a battle. All in one day."


68 posted on 08/22/2006 6:19:08 PM PDT by truth_seeker
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To: You Dirty Rats
The absolute worst war movie of all time is "Battle of the Bulge." They filmed much of that atrocity on flat, clear, and dry terrain -- when in fact the country was mountainous, wooded, and snowy. Henry Fonda stopped the Panzers with gas cans. Horrible.

Truly. They need to remake it as a mini-series and lose the surplus American military vehicles.

It would absolutely rock to see reproduction German miltary vehicles in something like that.

69 posted on 08/22/2006 6:50:47 PM PDT by an amused spectator (Hezbollah: Habitat for Humanity with an attitude)
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To: Leatherneck_MT

"Chard: The army doesn't like more than one disaster in a day.
Bromhead: Looks bad in the newspaper and upsets civilians at their breakfast.
God I Love that!"

At the time, of course, it was a cliche.


70 posted on 08/22/2006 7:18:19 PM PDT by dsc
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To: blam

Do you have a large version of that file?


71 posted on 08/22/2006 7:21:22 PM PDT by dsc
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To: Marius3188

Yeah, this is a Thoroughly Modern Miscellany heading topic. :') No ping, but definitely into the catalog. Thanks!


72 posted on 08/22/2006 7:47:26 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (updated my FR profile on Thursday, August 10, 2006. https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: dsc
"Do you have a large version of that file?"

No.

Some more images here though.

73 posted on 08/22/2006 8:04:09 PM PDT by blam
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To: tet68

Kipling is probably Politically incorrect today with verses like this:
"This was my Fathers belief
and this is also mine
Let the corn be of one sheaf
and the grapes be of one vine
ere our Children's teeth are set on edge
by bitter bread and wine".
(From Kipling's "The Stranger"

He would be spinning in his grave if he could see England today
Semper Fi!


74 posted on 08/22/2006 8:47:46 PM PDT by BnBlFlag (Deo Vindice/Semper Fidelis "Ya gotta saddle up your boys; Ya gotta draw a hard line")
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To: justshutupandtakeit

"Zulu Dawn", a prequel to "Zulu" wasn't bad, either; at least insofar as it portrayed the battle of Ishandlwana.


75 posted on 08/22/2006 9:22:09 PM PDT by PzLdr ("The Emperor is not as forgiving as I am" - Darth Vader)
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To: cherry
however, most people would never even know who the Zulu's were/are if it weren't for the movies...... sad, but true.....

Indeed. Ask about Fuzzy Wuzzies, and you'll get a blank stare. Same era.

76 posted on 08/22/2006 9:23:40 PM PDT by LexBaird (Another member of the Bush/Halliburton/Zionist/CIA/NWO/Illuminati conspiracy for global domination!)
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To: an amused spectator

In "Kelly's Heroes they uased a Yugoslavian TigerI, which was a TigerI body with a Russian supension and chassis. Apparently the Yugoslavs made a few conversions after WWII.


77 posted on 08/22/2006 9:26:35 PM PDT by PzLdr ("The Emperor is not as forgiving as I am" - Darth Vader)
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To: PzLdr
Ahh! Kelly's Heroes, one of my favorite WWII movies, which I recently acquired in digital form.

I knew it was a Tiger I, but thanks for the additional info. I had NO idea that any of those land battleships survived the war.

78 posted on 08/22/2006 9:46:43 PM PDT by an amused spectator (Hezbollah: Habitat for Humanity with an attitude)
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Just adding this to the GGG catalog, not sending a general distribution.

To all -- please ping me to other topics which are appropriate for the GGG list. Thanks.
Please FREEPMAIL me if you want on or off the
"Gods, Graves, Glyphs" PING list or GGG weekly digest
-- Archaeology/Anthropology/Ancient Cultures/Artifacts/Antiquities, etc.
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79 posted on 08/22/2006 9:48:38 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (updated my FR profile on Thursday, August 10, 2006. https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: an amused spectator

I knew something wasn't right when I first saw it. I had to look at the damn thing three times before I noticed the Christie suspension.


80 posted on 08/22/2006 9:50:43 PM PDT by PzLdr ("The Emperor is not as forgiving as I am" - Darth Vader)
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