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Adam was not deceived. Adam, like many men today, knew what he was doing was forbidden by God, but caved in to Eve and did it anyway. Satan did not go to Adam and Satan did not lie to Adam and Satan did not deceive Adam. Adam didn't "believe" Eve, Adam knew what he was doing and chose to do it in spite of what God had commanded him.

Eve repeated to Satan what God had told them about eating from the tree and Satan lied to her about God and she believed the lie.

Genesis 3:1-5

1 Now the serpent was more cunning than any beast of the field which the Lord God had made. And he said to the woman, "Has God indeed said, 'You shall not eat of every tree of the garden'?" 2 And the woman said to the serpent, "We may eat the fruit of the trees of the garden; 3 but of the fruit of the tree which is in the midst of the garden, God has said, 'You shall not eat it, nor shall you touch it, lest you die.' " 4 Then the serpent said to the woman, "You will not surely die. 5 For God knows that in the day you eat of it your eyes will be opened, and you will be like God, knowing good and evil.

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Genesis 3:13

13 And the Lord God said to the woman, "What is this you have done?" The woman said, "The serpent deceived me, and I ate."

Game, set, match. Eve deceived, Adam stupid.

Anyway, this whole story, in my view, is just that: a way to relate the fall of man. All of Genesis is a story, since no eyewitnesses were around to see any of it happen.

No one was around to see the Big Bang, but millions of people have absolute faith that it happened. If you can convince yourself that most of Scripture is nothing but a fable, like Hansel and Gretel, it makes it much easier to dismiss, in which case Satan has won another one since if Scripture is a fairy tale, then you won't take God seriously, especially the part where He discusses the fate of unredeemed man and you will die without knowing God which is what Satan wants above anything else.

And, since God has told us that " All Scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction,...", and "for prophecy never came by the will of man, but holy men of God spoke as they were moved by the Holy Spirit.", we know that God, and not man, did indeed set the rules for His churches, that He commanded men to establish.

And a woman can be "scripturally-educated" all she wants, but if she holds a position of authority over a man, in the church, she is sinning against God.

Again, not politically correct, but scriptually correct, which, after all, is what matters in the end.

If you can convince yourself that most of Scripture is nothing but a fable, like Hansel and Gretel, it makes it much easier to dismiss, in which case Satan has won another one since if Scripture is a fairy tale, then you won't take God seriously, especially the part where He discusses the fate of unredeemed man and you will die without knowing God which is what Satan wants above anything else.

Do you take a breath when you're typing?

Scripture is not made up of fables, but it is made up of many allegories, which are stories which illustrate an underlying truth.

The TRUTH is important, not the minutiae of the story.

You've burned up all kinds of synapses over the details of Adam and Eve and the fact is that my intepretation is just as good as yours so long as I'm talking about the fall of man.

And a woman can be "scripturally-educated" all she wants, but if she holds a position of authority over a man, in the church, she is sinning against God.

Baloney. If a woman is more scripturally-educated than a man then she "holds authority" over him in the area of scripture. And she's not sinning by manifesting her knowledge.

God's laughing at this thread, you know. He can't believe the precious bandwidth He has created is being burned up on trivial arguments.

Thank you for faithfully presenting the biblical truth regarding this issue. The problem is, many today, especially on FR, have reached the point where they are no longer wiling to endure sound doctrine/teaching, but rather want their ears tickled by "heaping unto themselves teachers in accord with their own desires/lusts". Their attitude is "I think", "I feel" rather than... thus says the Lord. Today, society and personal preference instead of God's infallible Word is the standard "Christians" and non-Christians are using to determine what they believe and how they live their lives. The good news is this is exactly what God's Word says it will be like in the last days before the rapture and return/second coming of Christ.

God bless you, stay faithful and keep up the good fight of faith.

In Christ, Dr. Jerry aka "Jmouse007"