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The 3 point Allen lead here confirms the Rasmussen poll showing a close margin (5 points in that case).

A blip due to bad press, or has Allen's big mouth put yet another Republican Senate seat in serious jeopardy? Stay tuned.

1 posted on 08/21/2006 3:04:57 PM PDT by DallasJ7
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To: DallasJ7

He certainly put an end to any talk of him running for President.


2 posted on 08/21/2006 3:06:18 PM PDT by thoughtomator (There is no "Islamofascism" - there is only Islam)
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To: DallasJ7

I read elsewhere that the DNC decided to take a pass on this contest and would not be funding Webb.

If they change their mind, we'll know the polls are showing Allen slipping are real.


4 posted on 08/21/2006 3:08:11 PM PDT by Hannibal Hamlin
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To: DallasJ7

Those polls are a buncha MACACA!!!!!


6 posted on 08/21/2006 3:09:00 PM PDT by keithtoo (Israeli defense strategy "Cogito Ergo Boom!")
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To: DallasJ7

Dumb-a$$...


9 posted on 08/21/2006 3:10:55 PM PDT by johnny7 (“And what's Fonzie like? Come on Yolanda... what's Fonzie like?!”)
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To: DallasJ7
The comment was beyond stupid for a white person in politics and a republican at that. We all know that democrats and especially minority candidates get a pass for stupid statements (which is wrong but that's life) but for Allen to lose his seat over this would rank right up there with the all time boneheaded decisions of all time.
10 posted on 08/21/2006 3:12:10 PM PDT by misterrob
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To: DallasJ7

These polls are garbage at this point in time. In a month, the phony/hyped bad press will have fizzed out.


11 posted on 08/21/2006 3:13:10 PM PDT by AmericaUnited
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To: DallasJ7
Another success by the liberals of the web. Allen has lost maybe five points from this Potemkin stageshow.

The liberal media has regained control of all the peoples' information sources.

We're just sheep again.

17 posted on 08/21/2006 3:33:17 PM PDT by mrsmith
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To: DallasJ7

Give it another week, it will work out.

Plus, this is a SUSA poll.

Its not every day that you have a national publication run two attack stories on a candidate. I havent seen the compost run any such stories on Web and his buddies.


20 posted on 08/21/2006 3:44:30 PM PDT by BoBToMatoE
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To: DallasJ7

Any poll that shows Democrats against marriage by a 5:1 margin probably is not correctly structured.


23 posted on 08/21/2006 3:56:43 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: DallasJ7
Hit piece journalism! Senator George Allen is still a good front-runner and a good candidate.
27 posted on 08/21/2006 4:12:09 PM PDT by FreeRep
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To: DallasJ7

Stupid effing PC-nazis are turning fake sensitivities into a political issue that has absolutely zero affect on people's lives. And there are some pinhead FRINOS who buy into it. Anybody who decides their vote based on "macaca" is a dolt. There are real issues in this election, including James Webb's support for Saddam Hussein, at stake.


36 posted on 08/21/2006 4:40:33 PM PDT by advance_copy (Stand for life, or nothing at all)
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To: DallasJ7
Here's the difference in the two polls. Polling done 6/25/06 polled 44% Repub, 32% Dem and 22% Indy. Polling done 8/20/06 polled 39%Repub, 37% Dem and 21% Indy. A couple of percent of 1/2 percenters here and there.

Allens numbers stayed the same with Republicans, 90% of their vote each time. He lost a few points with the Indies and a few with dems. The major factor however is the sample. 5% more dems this time and 5% less pubbies. Considering there aren't many crossovers the difference in the polling margins is directly attributable to the sample I would think.

Here are the internals for 6/25 and here are the internals for 8/20.

39 posted on 08/21/2006 5:03:58 PM PDT by jwalsh07
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To: DallasJ7

Two words: Ground game. We have one built off of '04, Dems still trying to catch up.....Add 3 points in every poll you see in our favor.


41 posted on 08/21/2006 5:23:12 PM PDT by Greek
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To: Torie; Clintonfatigued; fieldmarshaldj; crasher; Kuksool; AuH2ORepublican; LdSentinal; ...

It's worth noting that Survey USA has nailed a number of primary contests this year.


50 posted on 08/21/2006 8:29:24 PM PDT by AntiGuv ("..I do things for political expediency.." - Sen. John McCain on FOX News)
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To: DallasJ7

The key to a winning GOP presidential candidate in a normal year is to find a candidate that appeals to both of the major wings of the party (social & fiscal) while not being viewed as threatening to the moderate/RINO wing.

That's how Bush got the nomination, and got elected. And, in spite of several major disappointments, it is how he's governed. Tax cuts/Mexican amnesty for the fiscals, SC judges for the socials and "compassionate" big government conservatism for the mushy middle.

Now, take a look at the supposed GOP candidates for '08:

Rudy & McCrazy - non-starters for the socials, for obvious reasons.

Romney - Representing the bluest state in the union, coupled with a Morman background, likely will be too much to overcome.

Newt - Interesting because, when it comes to ideas, he is easily the best of the bunch. However, his stint as Speaker showed having ideas and governing them are two different things. Newt was a poor leader once in power (see Breach of Trust by Tom Coburn). Plus, his personal life is about on a par with Rudy's.

With one exception, the rest of the bunch have virtually zero name recognition and even less money, making them non-starters as well.

That one exception is U.S. Senator (and former governor) George Allen of Virginia. He meets all three criteria for a winning GOP candidate, which is why the 'Rats (via Webb) and the Washington Compost (via the "macaca" nonsense) are trying so hard to trip him up before he gets positioned for the '08 primaries.

For those on the thread who would scream "War on Terror!" as reason for supporting Giuliani and/or McCain, lets stipulate that no GOP candidate is going to get the nomination unless they strongly support the WOT - none. Therefore, there is no absolutely reason to accept the RINO baggage of either Rudy or McCain - all that will do is ensure one of the major wings stays home, and Hillary strolls back to 1600 Pennsylvania.

You want to keep Hillary out? Nominate a conservative who is acceptable to each wing of the GOP. Otherwise, it is a third party situation just waiting to happen, with president HRC waiting in the wings.

The best news would be for Cheney to have a change of heart and accept the nomination for '08 - I believe he would walk over Hillary, especially once they get to debate. The next best news would be for a true conservative not currently on the radar screen to come out of the blue.

Considering the unlikeliness of either option, I believe Allen will be the best choice for conservatives in '08 - unless the left can destroy him before he gets there.


56 posted on 08/21/2006 8:50:24 PM PDT by Ogie Oglethorpe (2nd Amendment - the reboot button on the U.S. Constitution)
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To: DallasJ7
A blip due to bad press, or has Allen's big mouth put yet another Republican Senate seat in serious jeopardy? Stay tuned.

BS. What we are witnessing is a major smear campaign orchestrated by the MSM at the behest of the Webb campaign. The phony macaca flap, Jewish grandfather, and now using the N-word in college are manufactured items to divert the public from the real issues. Your comments seem to indicate that you are buying what this smear campaign is putting out.

Allen is a major Dem target not just for 2006 but 2008.

113 posted on 09/27/2006 5:57:01 AM PDT by kabar
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