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Boulder columnist tells 9NEWS about conversations with Ramsey suspect (Karr)
KUSA Denver ^ | August 19, 2006

Posted on 08/19/2006 5:16:19 PM PDT by Shermy

BOULDER - As a running columnist for the Boulder Daily Camera, Mike Sandrock had little interest in the JonBenet Ramsey investigation until he saw a photo in his paper's newsroom.

The picture staring back at him, Sandrock remembered the summer of 2002 in Paris like it was last week.

Sandrock travels the world covering running events, but this trip was used for research on an Ernest Hemmingway book he's preparing.

Beneath his Paris loft, Sandrock looked for motivation in a bookstore named Shakespeare and Company, a hangout of Hemmingway's in the 1920's where his thoughts and career once started to blossom.

Sandrock met many tourists in the historic shop, and shared several conversations, including many talks with a John Mark Karr.

"He was just a regular guy, clean cut, very pleasant in fact," said Sandrock.

The topics quickly focused on JonBenet Ramsey and Boulder, Colorado after Sandrock's occupation came up.

"He said what do you do? I told him I'm a columnist with the Daily Camera in Boulder, and he got so excited," said Sandrock.

Maybe excited was an understatement, as every word thereafter, was about the town and the story.

"He knew everything about it, everything," said Sandrock.

Karr recited many facts about Boulder, from landmarks to the location of the Daily Camera.

"I got the impression he had been in Boulder, then I thought he just saw the documentaries," said Sandrock.

Documentaries produced by CU Professor Michael Tracy, whom Sandrock knew, and someone Karr wanted to know.

After talking with Karr on several occasions that summer, Sandrock was no longer interested in the subject, but later agreed to put Karr in touch with Professor Tracy through e-mail.

"I got the impression he wanted to talk more, but I stopped the conversations when he got into how the girl died, I just was not interested in that," said Sandrock.

Sandrock said Karr never discussed having visited Colorado, and never got the impression that Karr was a murderer, only extremely consumed with JonBenet Ramsey and her death.

"That's the thing, he wasn't that different, just obsessive, even in Boulder you meet a lot of people that are obsessive," said Sandrock.


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KEYWORDS: jonbenet; karr; ramsey
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To: Common Tator
We have a great DA here. He announces who they have and what the case is....mentioning the victim. He never gives tip offs as to what the evidence unless it was visible at the time of the arrest. The next speech comes when the guy has been processed and ready for indictment. We get the news of the indictment.

Let's be patient. I think it's the guy and that they have been doing "underground" on this case for a long time. The little arrogant beast "got caught" by his own cleverness.

41 posted on 08/19/2006 7:12:37 PM PDT by Sacajaweau (God Bless Our Troops!!)
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To: OldFriend

Can't believe what I just heard on Dateline. John Douglas is on and he said that John Ramsey told him he ripped the duct tape off of JonBenet's mouth and *tried to resuscitate her* - and that told Douglas right there that the parents had nothing to do with JonBenet's death.


42 posted on 08/19/2006 7:13:43 PM PDT by Rte66
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To: nuconvert

I feel so sorry for those little boys, their lives are going to be so difficult now. How sad.


43 posted on 08/19/2006 7:13:45 PM PDT by pepperdog
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To: Common Tator; All
Does anyone know WHEN the following home invasion happened? Before or after the murder? If before, then this could very well have been the time that Mrs. Ramsey's notepaper was taken and the note written before the murder.

John Ramsey Locked Up During Botched Robbery

44 posted on 08/19/2006 7:14:52 PM PDT by Carolinamom (This is no time to go wobbly. - Lady Margaret Thatcher)
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To: nuconvert
I knew a serial killer. He is believed to have killed 21 women. While he lived in Fairfax Va. there were 14 women killed. He moved to Florida. When he did the DC And VA murders stopped. Then 7 murders were committed in eastern Florida.

This serial killer had top security clearance from the FBI. He wrote the software they used in the White House. The FBI used to come see me once a year about renewing his Security Clearance. They acted like they knew everything about him .... I was just a casual aquaintence and they checked with me every year. They knew everything about him except that he was a serial killer.

He seemed just as normal as any nerd. But he was caught trying to kill his 22nd victim. The Florida press called him the Vampire Rapist.

I knew him in college... I never suspected anything. After college we exchanged Christmas cards. Whenever I was in D.C. we would meet for lunch. He was married and had a son. He seemed quite normal, but he was a serial killer.

45 posted on 08/19/2006 7:15:43 PM PDT by Common Tator
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To: nuconvert

so he knew exactly what time to arrive, what time they would leave for the party, so when he got to the house from the airport (by cab?), he could be sure the house was empty? and what time did he leave the house, did he catch a cab back to the airport on the night of Christmas Day? this isn't like Manhattan, where you walk outside and find a cab 24 hours a day.

well, the only way I will believe that is if I see airline ticket receipts.

the DNA in this case - is only a partial spread, the complete set of markers is not present (according to Henry Lee). so the DNA match, if it materializes, isn't going to be totally conclusive. the DA is going to have to definitively place him in Boulder.


46 posted on 08/19/2006 7:16:49 PM PDT by oceanview
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To: Rte66

who is John Douglas? did he witness this act? otherwise, its hearsay.


47 posted on 08/19/2006 7:18:41 PM PDT by oceanview
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To: pepperdog

Yes. Me too.
The family had been out of touch with him for years and his father said he thought he was dead. I don't know what the boys thought or were told. I can't imagine how this is affecting them all.


48 posted on 08/19/2006 7:18:43 PM PDT by nuconvert ([there's a lot of bad people in the pistachio business])
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To: Carolinamom
Before or after the murder?

Well after the murder.

49 posted on 08/19/2006 7:20:25 PM PDT by Common Tator
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To: oceanview

Former FBI criminak profiler who was hired by the Ramseys to help clear their name.

Dateline again - Yikes, Smit showed the "crime scene" photos yet again of "no snow" around the house. These were taken after the sun came up, not at the time JonBenet was being murdered. He is trying to refute the "no footprints in the snow" allegations of police that tends to refute the intruder theory.

All that "protesting too much" by showing misleading photos just shows me they're wrong on this point, as well as others.


50 posted on 08/19/2006 7:22:25 PM PDT by Rte66
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To: oceanview

"so he knew exactly what time to arrive, what time they would leave for the party, so when he got to the house from the airport (by cab?), he could be sure the house was empty?"

Not necessarily. He might have expected them to be home and just lucked out that they weren't.
Or he could have arrived the day before.


51 posted on 08/19/2006 7:22:28 PM PDT by nuconvert ([there's a lot of bad people in the pistachio business])
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To: Common Tator

say what? John Brennan Crutchley?


52 posted on 08/19/2006 7:24:33 PM PDT by oceanview
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To: Common Tator

That's creepy.
But it's like so many killers' neighbors who describe the guy as friendly.


53 posted on 08/19/2006 7:26:05 PM PDT by nuconvert ([there's a lot of bad people in the pistachio business])
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To: Common Tator

There has to be hard conclusive evidence such as fingerprints or DNA to have me believe this kook did it.


54 posted on 08/19/2006 7:29:39 PM PDT by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God) .)
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To: nuconvert

#25 ... wonder if he molested his sons too? Or just little girls?


55 posted on 08/19/2006 7:31:33 PM PDT by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God) .)
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To: Common Tator

Most serial killers are VERY intelligent and why they get away with it if not eventually caught.


56 posted on 08/19/2006 7:35:52 PM PDT by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God) .)
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To: Common Tator
As eager as I am to see someone be severely punished for this ... I'm not for railroading a freak that didn't do THIS crime and just wants attention.
57 posted on 08/19/2006 7:37:25 PM PDT by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God) .)
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To: Common Tator

Just curious, why are you so convinced he is the one?


58 posted on 08/19/2006 7:38:29 PM PDT by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God) .)
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To: nmh

Don't know.


59 posted on 08/19/2006 7:47:08 PM PDT by nuconvert ([there's a lot of bad people in the pistachio business])
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To: Rte66

I remember the post also - it was fairly new freeper who posted it.


60 posted on 08/19/2006 7:48:50 PM PDT by stlnative
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