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Wonder why no mention of the liberal leaning of the hack who ruled against the case the other day?
1 posted on 08/19/2006 8:54:39 AM PDT by roostercogburn
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2 posted on 08/19/2006 8:57:57 AM PDT by PajamaTruthMafia
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If republicans do not beat Pelosi, Reid and the rest of the loons over the head with this issue over the next month and a half, they do not deserve to hold the congress. This should be the nail in the dems coffin.


3 posted on 08/19/2006 8:59:08 AM PDT by roostercogburn
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This is just preparation for when they get trounced in the 6th Circuit. I think past Presidential precedence will rule the day.


4 posted on 08/19/2006 8:59:48 AM PDT by kempster
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To: roostercogburn

"warrantless surveillance program"

The writer makes it sound as though
there is no NEED for such surveillance
tactics!

From now on, I'm dubbing these
idiots as ostriches. (See next
article re Inside Islam Group...)


5 posted on 08/19/2006 9:01:42 AM PDT by Grendel9
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To: roostercogburn
Getting a scary picture of having to "march over our own guys to get to the enemy."

The libs are determined that we lose this thing!

7 posted on 08/19/2006 9:11:04 AM PDT by FixitGuy
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From the story:

Though it's impossible to predict how the court will rule on the NSA program, Greenwood said, it's easy to guess the last stop for the case: the U.S. Supreme Court.

With minor exceptions, the Supreme Court hears an appeal or not, as it chooses. If the Circuit Court decides for the government, I think it is likely that the Supreme Court will refuse review. It is also likely that either the Circuit Court or the Supreme Court will sidestep the main issue and reverse on the (valid) ground that the plaintiffs have no standing.

8 posted on 08/19/2006 9:18:17 AM PDT by Christopher Lincoln
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If a leftie can come up with this kind of ruling, it's only right that conservatives should be the ones to review it.


9 posted on 08/19/2006 9:20:23 AM PDT by expatpat
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To: roostercogburn
The only time liberals have a problem with the courts is when they are "conservative-dominated." Why, liberal judges are "non-partisan," "impartial," "respected" and have the "admiration of fellow judges." Conservative judges are "partisan," "prejudiced", "controversial" and "antagonize their judicial colleagues." Yeah, sure. The Drive By Media lays it on thick.

(No more Olmert! No more Kadima! No more Oslo!)

10 posted on 08/19/2006 9:27:23 AM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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Actually, the Sixth Circuit is one of the most politically-oriented Courts of Appeals there is. I don't have all the links available, but in 2002 as the Michigan affirmative action cases were proceeding into the Court, there was tremendous jockeying from the Court itself - as to which panel would hear the cases - and through the Senate Judiciary Committee about the timing of proceeding with confirmation hearings for appointments to the Sixth Circuit. Stories are legion about the coordination between the liberal interest groups and the Dems on the Senate Judiciary committee to control (delay) the confirmation hearings. IIRC, this topic (the confirmation timing strategy and how it related to the Michigan cases) was among the subjects the Dems dicussed in the memos left on the computers that the Republicans were able to access.

Beyond that, cases in the Sixth Circuit with political implications bring out unbelieveable (for appellate judges) behavior on both sides. Some of the nastiest opinions - both for the majority and for the dissent - that you'll ever read. For a court of appeals, it's akin to outright war between the outcome-oriented libs and the real judges. You can find lots of examples of this by searches at Howard Bashman's "How Appealing" blog.

I expect outright war on this issue as well - it'll probably be decided en banc (by the full court of 15-16 judges) and break on political lines. Although no one will affirm Judge Taylor's reasoning.


11 posted on 08/19/2006 9:33:17 AM PDT by Bulldaddy (www.constructionlawblog.net)
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"Conservative court"

Means they know whats coming at them! They know that this ruling is crap in all aspects.

As for going to the Supreme Court, I would not be surprised that the bipolar justice Kennedy decides to ignore Article II and invalidate the the 2001 joint resolution declaring war on terrorists!
13 posted on 08/19/2006 9:44:47 AM PDT by Pharmer (How am I supposed to rule the world when I surrounded by freakin liberal idiots!)
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Re the 6th Circuit:
Hard to pigeon-hole judges
Cincinnati attorney Scott Greenwood, a former ACLU general counsel (blah, blah) said regardless of the court's makeup, judges are likely to take a hard look at the separation of powers issues in the wiretapping case.

"Civil liberties are not liberal and they're not conservative," he said.

However, the 6th Circuit later ruled that a display at the Mercer County, Ky., courthouse was constitutional because it was part of a historical display that included replicas of the Bill of Rights and Declaration of Independence.

Ahhhh, the ACLU v MERCER COUNTY, one of my all time favorite ACLU smack-downs. Naturally there's more to the Mercer case than the ASSpress would print. And IMHO it was 'HUGH'.

These are my favorite parts of the decision and warm the cockles of my heart:

So excuse me all you legal eagle pundits and 'Professors', but I believe the ACLU's goose is cooked. The 6th Circuit is on to their nonsense and they are not amused.

14 posted on 08/19/2006 9:48:41 AM PDT by Condor51 (Better to fight for something than live for nothing - Gen. George S. Patton)
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A tendentious, reckless and fatuous judicial ruling forces this country into harms way by maintaining the 2001 legislation “to use all necessary and appropriate force” did not include electronic surveillance. However, communication intelligence has been a precondition to, and inherent within successful military operations at least since Sun Tzu discussed foreknowledge over 2,000 years ago. Through four presidents and 15 major terrorist attacks, we fled into illusions war was not declared upon us. This ruling perpetuates such derangements.

A barbaric pestilence arising from Muslim heresies seeks to consume us, and we are squandering a precious, perishable opportunity to thwart extraordinarily creative and lethal initiatives. The technological barriers to abundant human slaughter have fallen. Production of chemical and biological weapons can now be accomplished in cottage industries, or produced in duel use facilities, resembling creameries and breweries. For nuclear weapons, now fifty-year old technologies produced the Davy Crockett missile firing a 51-pound warhead yielding .01-kiloton, and the Astor nuclear torpedo carrying a Hiroshima size warhead. The Islamic cults, which infected Muslim faith within the 20th-Century, perceive human death as both means and end for their orthodoxy. They do not postulate a viable remnant for infrastructure or people, even including their own families, tribes and countries.

The Constitution, properly understood, assumes a viable, organized society housing civil liberties, and vigorous Commander in Chief powers, not encumbered by unrestrained dogma, to counter at inception these looming, incalculable miseries.


15 posted on 08/19/2006 9:49:34 AM PDT by Retain Mike
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"However, veterans of cases before the 6th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals caution that the court's mixed record in a broad range of rulings makes it difficult to predict how it will view the surveillance the administration says is crucial to stopping terrorists.

Yes, difficult to predict because, unlike the ideologically driven left wing Judges, Conservative Judges actually rule on the merits of the case based ON the law instead of basing their decisions on their political leanings and then CREATING a law to substantiate their ruling.

16 posted on 08/19/2006 10:14:14 AM PDT by Eagles Talon IV
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THis case is probably going to be bounced for lack of standing.


19 posted on 08/19/2006 10:33:51 AM PDT by Mike Darancette (This space for rent.)
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MMSNBC is the John Marks Carr of television news.


20 posted on 08/19/2006 10:37:07 AM PDT by pissant
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It's funny the aCLU hasn't yet filed a lawsuit on behalf of Al Qaeda complaining about the military's invasion of their "privacy" by their use of those Predator aircraft. I can already see the military being required to get a "warrant" from a "judge" before they can fly those spy drones over enemy territory. It's coming.


21 posted on 08/19/2006 10:46:18 AM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (Want to "feel safer?" Elect DemocRATS and then stick your head in the sand.- The DNC)
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The NSA program is quite small next to the worldwide electronic spy program that Bill Klinton set up. All communication taking place in or near the US, Canada and Great Briton are monitored.
22 posted on 08/19/2006 11:42:37 AM PDT by mountainlyons (Hard core conservative)
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The Terrorist Media! PING.

As Freeper roostercogburn so aptly put it:

Wonder why no mention of the liberal leaning of the hack who ruled against the case the other day?

The terrorist Media isn't interested in exposing the political droolings of a 74-year-old semi-senile Democrat Carter hack "judge".

See Freeper PajamaTruthMafia's hilarious post #2 for some candid pictures of the black-robed Carter clown.

24 posted on 08/19/2006 3:41:12 PM PDT by an amused spectator (Hezbollah: Habitat for Humanity with an attitude)
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That's because the "judge" shares the bias of MSNBC. Therefore, the "judge" has no perceived bias. On the other hand, the Appeals Court does not share the bias of MSNBC; therefore, that Court is biased.

Glad I could be of service. But is this current news? Is MSNBC still on the cable? Or, are their people going door to door, telling their version of the "news" to whomever is home, and dares to open the door?

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25 posted on 08/19/2006 3:56:21 PM PDT by Congressman Billybob (Have a look-see. Please get involved.)
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The left is just as much our enemy as Islam. Wake up America!!! These judges are activists, not their official duties, and they must be removed from the bench.


28 posted on 08/19/2006 4:02:11 PM PDT by ladyinred (Thank God the Brits don't have a New York Times!)
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