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MODERN MANNERS (Offering a Woman a Seat Is 'Creepy,' According to GQ)
New York Post ^ | August 18, 2006 | Liz Smith

Posted on 08/18/2006 1:45:48 PM PDT by nickcarraway

'WOMEN ARE equals now. They can fend for themselves. To offer a perfectly healthy woman a seat simply because she is a woman, however well-intentioned, is creepy. At best, she'll think you're from another country; at worst she'll feel old, or overweight enough to be perceived as pregnant."

And that is a lesson in modern manners, according to the new issue of GQ (with Clive Owen on the cover). Glenn O'Brien and other GQ scribes weigh in on e-mails, cellphones, gym etiquette, dressing for travel, how to handle chatty seatmates, sleeping with your friend's ex, online dating, wedding gifts and how to treat gay people: "Gay people don't want to freshen up the world, they just want to be a part of it." (So don't ask for makeovers and fashion tips.)

Oh, but you certainly should open doors for women: "Why? To be nice, you mannerless ape!"

(Excerpt) Read more at nypost.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Editorial; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: New York
KEYWORDS: boor; boorish; chivalry; debonair; emilypost; etiquette; feminazis; feminism; genderwars; gq; manners; men; metrosexuals; missmanners; savethemales; shemalesquarterly; suave; women; wthreadsgqanyway
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To: Stultis

Ping for later.


301 posted on 08/19/2006 12:04:05 AM PDT by gogeo (The /sarc tag is a form of training wheels for those unable to discern intellectual subtlety.)
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To: HitmanLV
Those that don't, well who cares?

That's exactly my point - why waste your time with losers, lol.

302 posted on 08/19/2006 12:05:08 AM PDT by Victoria Delsoul
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To: Proud_USA_Republican

"There is nothing worse than trying to be gentleman to women in a liberal hellhole city like Seattle.

Half the time I open a door for them, they look at me with this digusted look as if I'm opressing them."


HEY HEY HEY...I am in SHoreline...
You can hold the door for me ANYTIME!
And THANKS!


303 posted on 08/19/2006 12:08:21 AM PDT by M0sby (((PROUD WIFE of MSgt Edwards USMC)))
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To: M0sby

well we do have good vaules give me a good southern woman any day of the week.


304 posted on 08/19/2006 12:10:08 AM PDT by StoneWall Brigade (America Love it or Leave it!)
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To: Victoria Delsoul

Have really enjoyed reading all this. Glad to know that good manners are alive and well. The sad thing is that many of the young today are not being taught good manners.


305 posted on 08/19/2006 12:10:09 AM PDT by Irish Eyes
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To: BenLurkin

It would only be considered creepy if you were ugly because it is automatically taken as a sign that you want to have sex with the female in question. If you are a good looking man that is a different situation entirely.


306 posted on 08/19/2006 12:10:28 AM PDT by Mr. Blonde (You know, Happy Time Harry, just being around you kinda makes me want to die.)
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To: rockabyebaby
"What a crock O'crap!

Yep.
307 posted on 08/19/2006 12:11:36 AM PDT by Liberty Valance (Keep a simple manner for a happy life)
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To: Irish Eyes

I haven't read it all. Well, I must say, my parents brought me up right - God bless them.


308 posted on 08/19/2006 12:13:43 AM PDT by Victoria Delsoul
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To: Young Scholar

Now I'm going to have to ride over to my friend's house at 3:15 in the morning to get my copy of "The Meditations". Just to see the exact wording of the quote.

Well, maybe I'll just go to bed. Yeah, that sounds much better.


309 posted on 08/19/2006 12:17:54 AM PDT by The Black Knight (The Tengu Demon with a heart)
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To: M0sby

cool. :)


310 posted on 08/19/2006 3:02:36 AM PDT by Proud_USA_Republican (We're going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good. - Hillary Clinton)
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To: momincombatboots; Peach; Rca2000

Well, sure you may run into a few of those femnazi types, but most women I know still like to be treated with courtesy and like a lady. I know I do! Even in the business world it is still considered correct to either offer your seat to the woman in the room or go and bring an extra chair. In my case, I often can't move an extra chair for myself, I'm very petite.

Things I don't expect...if I walk in late on a meeting I sure hope nobody gets up...I don't want to be noticed at that point. LOL


311 posted on 08/19/2006 3:17:07 AM PDT by EBH (Islam: A government ruled by or subject to religious authority.)
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To: NoControllingLegalAuthority

ROFOL! Ever since then, I have been much more alert!


312 posted on 08/19/2006 4:21:48 AM PDT by Taxman (So that the beautiful pressure does not diminish!)
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To: gidget7

Thank you, ma'am.


313 posted on 08/19/2006 4:23:54 AM PDT by Taxman (So that the beautiful pressure does not diminish!)
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To: gogeo

Sorry, but I think mothers are generally the ones who teach manners. Father's may reinforce them, but women civilize little boys. And, when my boys, even as adults, show bad manners, I tell them that it reflects negatively on ME.
susie


314 posted on 08/19/2006 5:11:20 AM PDT by brytlea (amnesty--an act of clemency by an authority by which pardon is granted esp. to a group of individual)
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To: nickcarraway
At Disney one late night about 1:15AM after a late park event we rode the bus back to our hotel. We got on and we knew there wouldn't be enough seats. My wife sat down and my daughter sat in her lap, my young son took a seat in the back and I tol dher I would stand, even with about 10 seat left.

Well, there were another 30 people and many ladies including two who were pregnant. Fortunately they got the seats. I saw couple of gentlement surrender their seats, but many who did not and I saw several elderly women standing and one father with a young daughter who stood with her sleeping on his shoulders. I told my son to give his seat to a younger girl and he did, then the father picked up the girl and sat her on his lap and my son got to sit again immediately.

In my eyes, my 9YO son is more a man than any one of those young men who sat while elderly woman stood. My hat goes off to all those who stood without taking a seat even when they were available. There was a decent number. Enough to feel pride in my country and feel we still raise boys to be men, not scum.

315 posted on 08/19/2006 5:21:21 AM PDT by Caipirabob (Communists... Socialists... Democrats...Traitors... Who can tell the difference?)
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To: Thrusher
I guess I'm a creep.

Bless you. :)

316 posted on 08/19/2006 5:24:17 AM PDT by madison10
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To: nickcarraway

I would offer a seat to Clive Owen....:^


317 posted on 08/19/2006 5:25:46 AM PDT by Guenevere
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To: nickcarraway

A young man held the door open for me at the community college last week. He probably thought I was a professor (I'm over 45), but it was a very sweet thing to do. His mother taught him well.


318 posted on 08/19/2006 5:26:48 AM PDT by madison10
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To: Peach
Creepy?! I live in Omaha, Nebraska. A few days ago, at the end of the work day, I was riding down in the elevator with three ladies. One of them was carrying a large box. I instinctively asked her if she would like me to carry it for her. Although she politely declined (apparently it wasn't all that heavy), you should have seen how her face and the faces of the other women in the elevator lit up. She very much appreciated the offer, nonetheless, and they all commented on how few men hold doors, seat women in restaurants, etc.

Sorry--I plan to continue holding doors, seat women, stand wen they enter a room or leave the table, and all of that archaic Emily Post stuff. I may be a dinosaur, but I was at least a well-brought-up dinosaur.
319 posted on 08/19/2006 5:34:34 AM PDT by Uncle Vlad (You cannot protect the peoples' civil liberties if you refuse to protect the people.)
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To: JamesP81
Wild at Heart..by John Eldredge?
320 posted on 08/19/2006 5:37:51 AM PDT by Guenevere
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