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1 posted on 08/16/2006 9:21:00 AM PDT by Reagan Man
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To: Reagan Man

High concepts such as democracy doesn't appeal to psychos.


2 posted on 08/16/2006 9:23:35 AM PDT by My2Cents (A pirate's life for me.)
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To: Reagan Man

It's not democracy. It's their liberal immigration policies.


3 posted on 08/16/2006 9:26:10 AM PDT by shekkian
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To: Reagan Man

Ping for reference.


5 posted on 08/16/2006 9:30:02 AM PDT by xjcsa (The internet is not a truck. It's a series of tubes.)
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To: Reagan Man

This author is a simpleton, much like George Will.

The difference between Britain, and oh say Iraq of 2001, is that the democracy actively pursues the terror plotters, works in conjunction with the US intelligence services, aggressively prosecutes the enemy within, and investigates their connections back to terrorist groups in the Arab world.

OTOH, Saddam paid cold hard cash to suicide bomber families, worked with Al Qaeda, harbored known terrorists and provided them apts and cell phones, issued phony passports to the vermin, and was intent on inflicting maximum damage to the US and its interests.

But gee, it really doesn't matter whether a state is a allied democracy or a tyrranical terror sponsor, does it?


6 posted on 08/16/2006 9:30:39 AM PDT by pissant
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Most violent sexual predators are White Males. Thus all white males are violent sexual predators.

See now why this hysteric "All Muslims are terrorists" doctrine of the Neo Isolationist is so utterly absurd?

I keep asking this question and as yet none of the Squeal Like Pigs choir in the Neo Isolationism movement can answer it.

If Islam is the problem, why are the bulk of the forces fighting, and doing the bulk of the dying, on our side Muslim Iraqis, Pakistanis and Afghanis? Any of you even bother for a heartbeat to consider the Kurds are Muslims?

So Neo Isolationists. How well did your support for your regional pet bully boys work out in stopping 09-11-01?

An utterly stupid, bigoted, absurd article by a less then room temperature intellect wholly unable to evolve beyond his arrogant childishly provincial 09-10-01 mindset.

7 posted on 08/16/2006 9:30:49 AM PDT by MNJohnnie (History shows us that if you are not willing to fight, you better be prepared to die)
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it nonetheless demonstrated that the land of Locke and Blackstone, the cradle of Western democracy and law, has become a breeding ground for Islamic terrorists.

Fairness demands two caveats. First, you need to ad parts of the United States and Canada to this 'breeding ground" as recent arrests both here and in Canada demonstrate. Anywhere in the world where there is in insular Islamic community poses a danger.

Secondly, Political Science 101 will teach that among the weaknesses of democracy are the likelihood that eventually the majority will either vote to eliminate the minority faction or vote to do away with the democratic system.

8 posted on 08/16/2006 9:31:06 AM PDT by JimSEA ( "The purpose of diplomacy is to prolong a crisis." Spock)
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Islamists have stated time and time and time again that they're not interested in democracy, which they think is perverse and degenerate because it allows man to make laws, rather than to submit to the laws of Allah as written in the Koran and the Hadiths.

In fact it is a central tenant of today's jihadis that democracy is itself one of the world's major evils,, and must be destroyed.

Whoever promoted this idea that democracy will discourage Islamic terrorism simply hasn't been listening to Muslims. They despise democracy.


9 posted on 08/16/2006 9:33:37 AM PDT by angkor
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"Had the Liquid Bomb Plot (as some English papers call it) succeeded, a headline the next day might have accurately said, “British Terrorists Attack America.” "

A plot to pit allies against one another...


14 posted on 08/16/2006 9:42:17 AM PDT by Mrs. Darla Ruth Schwerin
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I was getting ready to write an essay making the same point. Hopefully, this will get sufficient circulation to save me the trouble.

The President's fantasy that imposing "Democracy" on other nations is a constructive step needs to be refuted. As for the general fallacies in the foreign policy that he outlined in his Second Inaugural Address, I would again recommend my contrived debate between our First and Present Presidents on the issues involved: George Washington Debates George W. Bush. I think it is pretty clear which President wins that debate.

William Flax

17 posted on 08/16/2006 9:47:02 AM PDT by Ohioan
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Um, weren't they stopped? By the government?


19 posted on 08/16/2006 9:47:58 AM PDT by eyespysomething (There is no such thing as global warming. Chuck Norris was cold, so he turned the sun up.)
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Given that the terrorists planning to commit what may have proved to be the deadliest anti-American terrorist attack ever were born and bred in democratic Britain, President Bush may want to reconsider his strategy of pushing democratic regime-change around the world, and especially in the Middle East, as the means of protecting the U.S. against terrorism.

Given that the terrorists planning to commit these atrocities were home-bred Britons, the Western world may want to reconsider its strategy of tolerating Islam anywhere in its midst. It is apparent that being reared in a "tolerant" culture earns you no points toward redemption when the jihadis get their bomb allowance.

Democracy isn't the problem; Islam is.

23 posted on 08/16/2006 9:56:09 AM PDT by IronJack (ALL)
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so reading between the lines,

is this author saying that belief in Islam is directly equal to advocating the violent overthrow of the Government of the USA?

This is imporatant because this is a question on USCIS immigration forms. (right above "were you ever a member of the Nazi party?")


25 posted on 08/16/2006 9:56:38 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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I'm at the point where the only solution is either the Muslims take this problem in hand and root it out themselves, or Western Civilization will need to enforce apartheid, with no Muslims being welcome in the West.


27 posted on 08/16/2006 9:58:47 AM PDT by Kozak (Anti Shahada: " There is no God named Allah, and Muhammed is his False Prophet")
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The Heritage Foundation’s Index of Economic Freedom ranks the U.K. as the world’s 5th freest economy. The U.S. ranks only 9th.

This is a surprise to me, considering that the entire British medical profession is state-controlled.

31 posted on 08/16/2006 10:02:34 AM PDT by denydenydeny
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There are nuts in this country as well. Does that mean that democracy doesn't work here?


39 posted on 08/16/2006 10:27:46 AM PDT by My2Cents (A pirate's life for me.)
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"So why have native Brits been implicated.."

They're NOT "native Brits" They are Muslims born in Britain or recruited from the native British population.

When are these people going to get it through their heads that to Muslims, primary allegiance and loyalty lies not with the State, but with Islam. WE may view them - erroneously as Brits, etc. but THEY view themselves as Muslims living in Britain, etc.

Terrorism is but a symptom. The disease is Islam - a belief system which tolerates no other, which seeks to impose Sharia Law, which relegates women to second class citizenship, which inflicts barbaric punishments on people for acts we don't even consider a crime, which employs violence to forcibly convert unbelievers or relegate them to an oppressed status, which still practices and condones slavery, which divides the world into the Islamic world and the non-Islamic world, which believes in a theocracy as they see no distinction between religion and government, and which denies the dignity of the individual human being and freedom of conscience.
45 posted on 08/16/2006 10:47:26 AM PDT by ZULU (Non nobis, non nobis, Domine, sed nomini tuo da gloriam. God, guts, and guns made America great.)
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The British terrorists were directed by people in Pakistan. You can't blame British democracy for that.

I don't expect Islam to flourish in educated democracies. But it is not inconceivable that anywhere there are Muslim communities, that terrorism could be advanced.

Furthermore, as we saw in Palestine, democracy is no guarantee of a kinder gentler nation. A Christian democracy is.

So while the particular case of the British airline bomb plot doesn't illustrate the article's point. The point is well taken.

49 posted on 08/16/2006 11:36:31 AM PDT by DannyTN
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Appears our lad Jeffries is in need of a dictionary so he can learn the meaning of the work "foment."


51 posted on 08/16/2006 12:20:04 PM PDT by IamConservative (Humility is not thinking less of oneself; humility is thinking about oneself less.)
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