Posted on 08/15/2006 6:18:32 AM PDT by seasoned traditionalist
Saudi Arabia on Monday rejected linking Muslims with fascism, days after U.S. President George W. Bush spoke of a "war with Islamic fascists".
"(Saudi Arabia) warns of accusing Muslims of terrorism and fascism without considering the history of the pure Islamic civilization," the cabinet of the major U.S. ally said in a statement after a meeting chaired by King Abdullah.
The Saudi cabinet statement said: "What Islam is being charged with today, such as fascism, is primarily the result of Western cultural heritage.
"Terrorism has no religion and no nationality," said the statement, carried by state media. It made no direct reference to Bush or to the United States.
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Let me take this thing a bit further. Old Europe and New Europe both seem to have either a short memory span or a deliberate long term memory loss. While my graduate work at USC focused primarily on the late Roman Empire and specifically on the Roman Military through research of the ‘Notitia Dignitatum,’ one can’t seriously read European history without including the bloody clashes with Islamic Jihadists’ that have extended from the 7th century to this day.
Nothing new. Even the names are re-runs of Islamic historic rational and motivation: Hezbollah = Party of God; al-Qaeda = The Base (for Islamic International Domination); and Islamic Jihad = (well) Islamic Jihad.
When these people (i.e. Ayman al-Zawahiri) say that their goal is take everything and have Islam prevail ‘from Spain to all of Iraq’ they mean it and see it as a historical holy mandate from Allah.
The uniformed will try to blame the current Western worlds bad ‘relationship’ with the Muslim world on Bush or having to do with Israel or even blame the Crusades. Sorry, it goes back much, much further and Europe has been in a continuous state of war which spans most of post Roman (Western Empire) history:
637 AD – Jerusalem falls to Muslim forces
641 AD - Muslim conquest of parts of Georgia and Armenia, Eastern Europe
667 AD – Sicily attacked by Muslims
711 AD - Al-Andalus, Muslim conquest of Spain and the Iberian peninsula begins
725-30 AD - Muslim forces take French towns, Nimes, Narbonne, Avignon
732 AD - Battle of Tours/Poitiers, France, Charles Martell halts Muslim forces in their further expansion into Europe
827 AD - Islamic Conquest of Sicily. They were finally kicked out by the Normans around 1097
846 AD - Muslim forces sack Rome and the Vatican
911 AD – Muslim forces control all the passes in the Alps between France and Italy
920 AD – Muslim forces cross Pyrenees and enter Gascony and reach the gates of Toulouse, France
1033 AD – Castille, Spain is taken back from the Muslims
1045-1099 – El Cid, becomes a hero of Spain and attempts to drive Muslims from Spain
1095 AD - Pope Urban calls for 1st Crusades to regain Holy Land from Islam and trade routes to the east. This fight between Christians and Muslims last about two centuries.
1492 AD - Spain finally forces out Muslims who have ruled over 700 years
1683 AD – Battle between Muslim forces from Turkey and the Habsburgs at Vienna, Austria
1683 AD – till the present is more of the same….blah, blah, blah.
Of course this is a SHORT, select list of Islamist ‘tolerance and peaceful’ exchange with the western world. Now if we can learn this list at our little old USC South Carolina colleges, you’d think that the ‘enlightened’ Europeans and especially SPAIN could see that they are in ‘deep $#!@’ for the umpteenth time with the Muslims.
As I heard someone remark a long time ago, “Islam has bloody borders.”
The problem is that Islam keep trying to spill over their borders to our borders which is the way it has been for their entire history.
Katherine Jenerette
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he does understand this. Problem is there are 535 others that also need to understand this and while some of them do, others do not.
Toss in a MSM who are opposed to these policies because of who is in office and this is what you have.
In my universe, the Solar system, it certainly does.
And I have no tolerance for it. I don't even wish to have any contact with it.
It is called islam, it is defined by the "organization of the islamic Conference"
and I will fight it in any form to the death. At home.
The difference between my hate and theirs is that they have been constantly traveling to kill me where I live; I have no desire to visit them for any reason, other than to exact retribution.
If they were content to stay in their private hell holes, all conflict disappears. They don't even have to build a fence. Who wants to go there?
Stay where you belong and you need not ever fear us, or even care what we think.
Yes, it's that simple.
No. We should call it a "religion of peace".
Our president told us so for five murdering years...
Next to islam, ignorance is our greatest enemy.
Can you imagine Constantine and the Roman Empire not only accepting, but embracing Christianity if early Christians killed people wholesale and randomly everywhere they went?
Any comparison between the Muslim Mass Murdering faux religion and Christianity is loathsome...
You lost me right here.
Your need to include this gratuitous PC pap cancels out any further thought on your part that is of any use to me.
Comparing Mass Murder today with whatever might have happened in 14th and 15th Century Europe displays such a poverty of thought, that no further reading is necessary.
Before the ignorant and plain stupid exploit that statement, I strongly suggest that you correct it.
I am certain that you meant "uninformed"...
What about NAZI
You left out their invasion of India which all but destroyed Buddhism in that country. You also left out Islam's major participation in the African slave trade (the man considered the greatest slave trader of all time was an Egyptian named Muhammed Ali-I wonder what Cassius Clay would think of that).
You mean like all those executive orders that the left is saying is unconstitutional?
I am not disagreeing with you here. However, everything is borders borders borders. I believe that 9/11 happened with visas from the state department not porous borders.
Both have to be taken care of. Visas are an executive order and should be done NOW. Unfortunately the borders are politics and apparently the hispanic vote is more important then doing something about the borders.
GRRRRR
I can't think of a worst, more paragon example of absolutely clueless, idiotic extremely off the scale hypocrisy in all of recorded history.
Could easily be blood boiling material if one pondered it for many seconds. GRRRR
Lord, God, please deal with such hideocies ASAP, as only You can, Oh Lord.
Osama Fatwa 1998 - Radical Islam
In compliance with God's order, we issue the following fatwa to all Muslims:
"The ruling to kill the Americans and their allies--civilians and military--is an individual duty for every Muslim who can do it in any country in which it is possible to do it.
We -- with God's help -- call on every Muslim who believes in God and wishes to be rewarded to comply with God's order to kill the Americans and plunder their money wherever and whenever they find it.
Almighty God said "O ye who believe, give your response to God and His Apostle, when He calleth you to that which will give you life. And know that God cometh between a man and his heart, and that it is He to whom ye shall all be gathered."
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No, in the human relations Navy program groups I and others at the CREDO program ran . . . we called such . . . idiocies . . .
. . . as in extreme mind manipulation 100% out of whack with reality. Can't easily think of a more fitting example.
My comparison is meant to illustrate the point that the West progressed as a civilization over the course of history. The Arab world never did.
For whatever reason the muzzies want to destroy western civilization and are already well into the process. Call it PC pap or whatever, there will be more 9/11's and western civilization better get off its butt and recognize this for what it is.
All I was doing was presenting information and a theory based on the last thousand or so years of documented history and the slaughters that have taken place in the name of religion.
"Both have to be taken care of. Visas are an executive order and should be done NOW. Unfortunately the borders are politics and apparently the hispanic vote is more important then doing something about the borders. "
Sorry, left something out. Want to change the border situation, change the politicians.
Anyone who thinks this is a "religion of peace" needs a history lesson.
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. . . or . . . perhaps . . . dare I say it . . .
"sent to the countryside for 're-education' by the masses." to cite a Chinese treatment.
Cleaning out some hog wallows and cess pools by the likes of Shrillery and her cohorts and goons might teach them a lot they never had a clue about. It's a nice visual image, anyway. Let Scuba Teddy learn to swim all over again in the cesspools he's helped cause and create in our beloved and beleagured Nation.
Where violence begets violence it is incumbent upon us to make the muzzies understand that we will not be led to slaughter. The iranians and syrians didn't expect for Israel to do what they did. It scared them to death.
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Much agree except that I don't think most of what anyone else does scares them a lot. They cherish death as a religious sacrament.
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