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British Muslims targeted by ex-police chief
The Age ^ | 8/14/06 | Annabel Crabb

Posted on 08/13/2006 6:43:20 PM PDT by dervish

AS LEADERS of Britain's Muslims appealed to Prime Minister Tony Blair to reduce tensions after last week's terror alert, a former London police chief has inflamed the debate by blaming Muslims for terrorist networks in the country.

"When will the Muslim community in this country accept an absolute, undeniable, total truth: that Islamic terrorism is their problem?" wrote Lord Stevens, former commissioner of London's Metropolitan Police, in an opinion column for the News of the World.

In their open letter to Mr Blair on Saturday, Muslim leaders urged him to alter his political stance on the Middle East, which they said provided "ammunition to extremists who threaten us all".

Lord Stevens, whose continuing responsibilities include the inquiry into Princess Diana's death, called on Muslims to "stop the denial, endless fudging and constant wailing that somehow it is everyone else's problem and, if Islamic terrorism exists at all, they are somehow the main victims".

He also defended racial profiling at airports and other hotspots, saying resources were being wasted on searching everybody out of a sense of fairness.

"I'm a white, 62-year-old, suit-wearing ex-cop — I fly often, but do I really fit the profile of a suicide bomber?" Lord Stevens wrote.

His comments clash with a speech delivered last week, before the latest arrests, by Metropolitan Police Assistant Commissioner Tarique Ghaffur, who said profiling had discriminated against Muslims and added to racial tensions in Britain.

"Of course, there'll be instant squealings that this is racism. It's not," Lord Stevens insisted.

(Excerpt) Read more at theage.com.au ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; News/Current Events; United Kingdom; War on Terror
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To: ZULU

45% of British Muslims believe Israel and the U.S. conspired to cause 9/11. 37% believe it is okay to kill Jews at any given moment.


21 posted on 08/13/2006 7:12:40 PM PDT by Uncle Miltie (Islamofascists' tactics are all War Crimes according to the Geneva Convention.)
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To: Big Guy and Rusty 99

Heck you don't even need that.

All you need are the words: "If you don't co-operate with us we are going to transfer you to Israeli intelligence".


22 posted on 08/13/2006 7:22:18 PM PDT by ChinaGotTheGoodsOnClinton (To those who believe the world was safer with Saddam, get treatment for that!)
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To: dervish

I read the whole op-ed; it's an amazing breath of fresh air! We need more of it in this country - less mealy-mouthed pandering to the Religion of Peace (the peace of the dead) and more straight talk: muslims in the US, as long as there is islamic terrorism, every muslim is going to be the subject of heightened scrutiny. Want it to stop? Then help stop terrorism. Pure and simple.


23 posted on 08/13/2006 7:24:08 PM PDT by CatoRenasci (Ceterum Censeo Arabiam Esse Delendam -- Forsan et haec olim meminisse iuvabit)
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To: Fred Nerks
"...Metropolitan Police Assistant Commissioner Tarique Ghaffur,"

Thanks for the biography.

Three words.

He's a mole.

24 posted on 08/13/2006 7:24:45 PM PDT by grey_whiskers
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To: dervish; VOA; ZULU
From Anti-Freeper at Pro-Hezzbolah rally Aug. 12 2006 Washington DC. photos.


25 posted on 08/13/2006 7:26:08 PM PDT by Pyro7480 ("Love is the fusion of two souls in one in order to bring about mutual perfection." -S. Terese Andes)
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To: ChinaGotTheGoodsOnClinton

why export? All I need to do is find out who needs to talk and make them talk. A knife, a car lighter, and maybe some rubbing alcohol are the only tools I need. I won't even break a sweat.


26 posted on 08/13/2006 7:28:33 PM PDT by Big Guy and Rusty 99 ("Conspiracy theories are the products of feeble minds." - A. Horvet)
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To: dervish

Not ALL Muslims are terrorists, but all TERRORISTS are MUSLIM!!! Hey, Muslims of the world....CLEAN UP YOUR MESS!!


27 posted on 08/13/2006 8:21:35 PM PDT by Suzy Quzy ("When Cabals Go Kaboom"....upcoming book on Mary McCarthy's Coup-Plotters.)
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To: Big Guy and Rusty 99

It is the equivalent to telling a mouse he is going into a snake cage.

The Mossad doesn't have the ACLU looking over its shoulder, and have these PC prisoner guidelines like the US.


28 posted on 08/13/2006 9:40:16 PM PDT by ChinaGotTheGoodsOnClinton (To those who believe the world was safer with Saddam, get treatment for that!)
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To: ChinaGotTheGoodsOnClinton

Plus they are amazingly effective.


29 posted on 08/13/2006 9:40:56 PM PDT by ChinaGotTheGoodsOnClinton (To those who believe the world was safer with Saddam, get treatment for that!)
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To: ChinaGotTheGoodsOnClinton

neither do I . . . I am not associated with any law enforcement agency. Screw the ACLU!


30 posted on 08/14/2006 12:14:07 AM PDT by Big Guy and Rusty 99 ("Conspiracy theories are the products of feeble minds." - A. Horvet)
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To: dervish
instant squealings that this is racism.

Interesting choice of words.

31 posted on 08/14/2006 6:00:58 AM PDT by nonliberal (Graduate: Curtis E. LeMay School of International Relations)
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To: Fred Nerks
Discrimination as a member of a minority community is something
Mr Ghaffur, himself a Muslim, experienced first-hand
at an early age.

Born in Uganda in east Africa, his family were forced to flee their
native land when
dictator Idi Amin expelled most of the country's minority Asian
population in 1972.


The good officer leaves out "the rest of the story".
(For the younguns, Amin was A MUSLIM; Khadaffi sent Libyan troops to
help him. And when he went into exile, he went to live with his co-congregants
in...Saudi Arabia.)
At that young age, he was discriminated against because he wasn't
the right kind of Muslim.
He found himself in a situation similar to that of the African Muslims
in the Darfur area of Sudan.
He was a Second-Class Muslim dissed by First-Class Muslims.

You'd think he'd learn and ditch that Religion of Peace.

But then, maybe he's found a good career-enhancer with his "I've
been discriminated against" mantra.
32 posted on 08/14/2006 6:52:20 AM PDT by VOA
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To: Fred Nerks; VOA

Thanks for the backstory on Ghaffur.

And I agree. Muslims are horrible racists. What other religion condones slavery in the 21st century?


33 posted on 08/14/2006 7:05:31 AM PDT by dervish
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To: EagleUSA

I agree.

Our politicians - of whatever "falvor" do not.

I guess the smell of Saudi campaign money and oil profits impacts their reasoning


34 posted on 08/14/2006 8:17:51 AM PDT by ZULU (Non nobis, non nobis, Domine, sed nomini tuo da gloriam. God, guts, and guns made America great.)
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To: Brad Cloven

Not unsurprising.

They go back to history for past history for their justification.

We can too. Once upon a time all of North Africa and most of western Asia was Christian.


35 posted on 08/14/2006 8:19:25 AM PDT by ZULU (Non nobis, non nobis, Domine, sed nomini tuo da gloriam. God, guts, and guns made America great.)
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To: Pyro7480

Non nobis, non nobis, Domine, sed nomini tuo da gloriam


36 posted on 08/14/2006 8:22:08 AM PDT by ZULU (Non nobis, non nobis, Domine, sed nomini tuo da gloriam. God, guts, and guns made America great.)
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To: VOA
I have a Muslim friend in England who was kicked out of Uganda by Idi Amin.

He owned a chain of grocery stores in Kampala but arrived in Britain with his family and only the possessions they could carry with them.

He is a great guy and I try to think of him to give me a sense of balance.

It is so easy to think badly of all Muslims. It is in a way a defense mechanism. We see ourselves threatened by them - with reason.

37 posted on 08/14/2006 1:16:48 PM PDT by Churchillspirit (We are all foot soldiers in this War On Terror.)
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To: Churchillspirit

Certainly there are Muslims who conduct themselves as good citizens/subjects.
Probably fifty years from now we'll marvel at the revelations of how
some of them risked their necks to fight back against the monsters.

Maybe I was a bit tough on the good policeman.
But I just wanted folks to note that while he did experience some
discrimination in the UK (Christian/Post-Christian nation)...
his folks actually had to flee their country run by a Muslim.

While the UK hasn't treated him perfectly...apparently it's enough
of an improvement that he's settled in for good.
He should be saying that he won't let his current home nation turn
into a hell-hole like the one he came from.
And if some folks feelings get hurt in accomplishing the mission...tough.
They need to get a bit of that "stiff upper lip".


38 posted on 08/14/2006 2:06:33 PM PDT by VOA
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To: MidlandDesperado

It's Criminal profiling not racial profiling.


39 posted on 08/14/2006 2:30:47 PM PDT by Unicorn (Too many wimps around.)
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To: dervish

Where, oh where, is America's Lord Stevens?


40 posted on 08/14/2006 2:35:23 PM PDT by surely_you_jest
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