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1 posted on 08/13/2006 4:05:02 PM PDT by Pokey78
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WHEN YOU turned on the radio last Thursday morning was your first thought: “Phew! Great work by the security services”, or: “Here we go! Another stunt by the Government”?

Most of those who felt the latter did so automatically due to their hatred for the President; there was no thinking involved whatsoever.

2 posted on 08/13/2006 4:13:05 PM PDT by Mr. Mojo
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I don't even know where to begin.

Muslims always claim that the terrorists are blowing things, people, babies , women up for a "Reason". And too many idiots in America and the UK are drinking the koolaid.

The mujahadin are killing non Muslims and Muslims for one reason, ISLAM. If the Nation of Israel did not exist, they would kill us. The Barbary pirates are a testimony to this.

If we turn our back on Israel, the Islamofacist-nazi's will still find another "Reason" to be a shahid and die for allah.

We are fighting Muslims that want to die for allah, the only logical answer is to help them on their way to 72 virgins and rivers of wine.

We (the non Islamic world) have 4 options.

Ban Islam in America, deport the illegal Muslims, or Intern them.

Accept islam

Become a underclass dhimmi

Die.

To the Mods, I don't text this with hate, but at some point in time, when the Muslims become in large enough numbers in America, we (Jews, Christians, Buddhist, Hindus, athiests) will end up like the Coptic Christians in Egytp.

OUR NECKS WILL BE UNDER THE BOOT OF ISLAM.

4 posted on 08/13/2006 4:20:50 PM PDT by mosquewatch.com ("The enemy is anyone who will get you killed, no matter what side they are on.")
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Those who blame our government, and the UK are the reason the terrorists can operate so well. This must end if we are to overcome the murdering inhuman pieces of trash who will kill us all, left and right, center and oblivious.


10 posted on 08/13/2006 4:31:08 PM PDT by ladyinred (Thank God the Brits don't have a New York Times!)
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Every war produces various scenarios as to who did what and what was swept under the rug. I don't know about you guys, but I am off Cool Aid forever with this conspiracy bit.................. (....now who took my gin?!!)
11 posted on 08/13/2006 4:38:10 PM PDT by yoe
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When I turned on the radio last Thursday morning, my first thought was "Okay, what kind of bullcrap are we going to have to put up with now?"

Never thought it would be a toothpaste and shampoo ban.

We are becoming the French.

13 posted on 08/13/2006 4:47:11 PM PDT by elkfersupper
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Denial is the word. Check out this article on these terrorists at UK Universities:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml;jsessionid=Q0ONYR3EDJSG1QFIQMFCFFWAVCBQYIV0?xml=/news/2006/08/13/nplot13.xml


14 posted on 08/13/2006 5:02:26 PM PDT by GeorgefromGeorgia
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But it is equally preposterous to deny, as Tony Blair and George Bush still do, that these attacks have nothing whatsoever to do with their foreign policy.

It is not preposterous at all. It's true. When did Jihad start? Hard to say precisely:

Maybe Jihad didn't start in 1972 with the slaughter of Israeli athetes at the Munich Olympic Games.

Maybe it didn't start in 1974 when Abu Nidal's group bombed TWA Flight 841, killing 88. On a flight from Israel to New York with several scheduled stops in between.

Although many experts believe this incident was the start of worldwide jihad, let's say it wasn't: November 4, 1979 student proxies of the new Iranian regime of Ayatollah Khomeni took 66 diplomats and citizens of the United States hostage inside the U.S. embassy in Tehran.

Maybe it didn't start in 1983 when the U.S. Embassy in Beirut was bombed by Islamic Jihad killing 63.

Maybe it didn't start with the Marine barracks bombing in Beirut in 1983, probably by an early version of the group that became Hezbollah. This one killed 241 U.S. Marines and 58 French soldiers. It was the deadliest single-day death toll for the United States Marine Corps since the Battle of Iwo Jima in World War II.

Maybe it didn't start in 1986 when TWA Flight 840 was bombed on approach to Athens airport; four passengers, all of them American (including an infant) were killed.

Maybe it didn't start with the Pan Am 103 bombing over Lockerbie, Scotland in 1988, The death toll was 270 people from 21 countries, including 11 people in the town of Lockerbie.

Maybe it didn't start in 1993, when Mir Aimal Kansi, a Pakistani, fired an AK-47 into cars waiting at a stoplight in front of the Central Intelligence Agency headquarters in Langley, VA. Two CIA employees died.

Maybe it didn't start in 1993 with the first World Trade Center bombing. Maybe not enough people died in that one. "Only" six.

Maybe it didn't start in 1994, when Lebanese-born Rashid Baz, armed with a Glock 9-millimeter semi-automatic pistol and a 9-millimeter Cobray machine gun, shot at a van carrying members of the Chabad-Lubavitch Orthodox Jewish sect on the Brooklyn Bridge. Four students were injured in the attack, two seriously with gunshot wounds to the head. One of the victims, Ari Halberstam, a sixteen-year-old, died of his wounds four days later.

Maybe it didn't start in 1994 with the bombing of a Jewish Center in Buenos Aires, Argentina. This one killed 86 and wounded 300, and is attributed to Hezbollah acting on behalf of Iran.

Although 1994 was a busy year for the Islamofacists, maybe jihad didn't start when a small bomb exploded on board Philippine Airlines Flight 434, killing a Japanese businessman. Ramzi Yousef planted the bomb to test it for his planned terrorist attack agains the U.S.

Maybe it didn't start in 1996, with the Khobar Towers bombing in Saudi Arabia. In all, 19 U.S. servicemen and one Saudi were killed and 372 wounded, by Saudi Hizballah with Iranian support.

Maybe it didn't start in 1997 when a man opened fire on tourists at the observation deck atop the Empire State Building in New York City, killing a Danish national and wounding visitors from the United States, Argentina, Switzerland and France before turning the gun on himself. A handwritten note carried by the gunman claimed this was a punishment attack against the "enemies of Palestine."

Maybe it didn't start in 1998 with the U.S. embassy bombings in Dar es Salaam, Tanzania and Nairobi, Kenya, which killed 225 people and injuring more than 4,000.

Maybe worldwide jihad did not start in 2000 with the USS Cole bombing, which killed 17 U.S. sailors and wounded 40 off the port coast of Aden, Yemen. Responsibility for this attack was claimed by al-Qaeda.

But surely...surely only willful Leftists fail to acknowledge that worldwide jihad was underway on a bright late summer morning in New York, Virginia and Pennsylvania, September 11,2001.

Over the past three decades there have literally been hundreds of relatively small incidents of Islamic terrorism around the world. Most get little notice except in local newspapers. Dozens of incidents were sigificiant enough to garner notice from the international media; the above list is only a partial accounting. In the five years since 9/11, we've all seen the attacks that occured from Indonesia to Madrid and London. We saw the horrific slaughter of Russian schoolchildren at Beslan. And, of course, news of the foiled plot to blow up 10 airliners broke just last Thursday.

This jihad business is not about Israel, or the US, or UK, or anyone's foreign policy. Those are all just excuses. It is about a facist totalitarian ideology wedded to an aggressive religion, and funded by a backwards people living circa 1000, while awash in 2006 oil and drug money. It has been stoked by Islamofacist clerics for over 30 years, at least. Stoked, as these things always are, to increase the power of the clerics, and for no other reason.

Only when the non-Islamic world gets this truth and deals squarely with it will we have a hope of turning the tide.

15 posted on 08/13/2006 5:20:42 PM PDT by Wolfstar (Suffer the little children to come unto Me...for of such is the kingdom of God. [Mark 10:13-14])
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Rather than face up to the fact that there are now worryingly high numbers of radicalised young Muslims, some of whom have murderous designs against their compatriots, these Muslims would prefer to delude themselves that the whole thing is a Western plot.

I've come to the conclusion myself that they believe no such thing. They

1) Know exactly what their compatriots are doing

2) Approve of what their compatriots are doing and

3) Lie their asses off to stupid westerners when asked what they think.

17 posted on 08/13/2006 5:32:03 PM PDT by GATOR NAVY
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